NPAS move to LBA
 

NPAS have announced on social media that they are moving their DSA operation to LBA until a permanent base is decided.

Almost no news since the second offer was put to Peel.

They rejected the first one very quickly.

Hoping for a positive outcome.

But what kind of outcome would be positive? The PAX operators have moved to pastures new, cargo similarly. Clearly they had no choice, but even if hypothetically a new buyer were found that took over the airport, and reopened to commercial traffic where would the business come from? Are TUI and Wizz going come return? Possibly, but unlikely. If the cargo operators have found they have viable alternatives will they be prepared to come back?

I fear Finningley as a commercial airport is now a dead duck whether or not Peel flog it.

Who knows. No one knows what has been agreed and what hasn't.

The word from the council and MPs were that TUI would definitely come back if the airport reopened.

Whoever the potential buyers are, it is led to believe they have far deeper pockets than Peel and have experience in the indurstry.

We shall see, however I do share the opinion that it is game over.

So who are the UAE investors and how will the local authority fund a compulsory purchase order? According to what I read today, expect a 'possible' re-opening in the Spring 2023.

It’s all subject to NDA apparently so they haven’t announced any details. The spring reopening thing was a supposition by Oliver Coppard, that is to say it could open in theory next spring if a bidder is successful in acquiring the site to run as an airport, I don’t think he’s in the loop to the fine details either.

Mate of mine phoned me yesterday. 2 Excel have bomb burst out from DSA. HUY, MME and Sywell for the Blades. DSA is a dead ex RAF base now. The Brexit recession will confirm the death. Lots of people voted for it.

Sorry, are you happy with low visibility conditions?
You completely miss my point.... why are you hating on Teesside again.
I know the historical records very well.
You however obviously don't understand what the equipment does! Teesside doesn't really need (cost vs reward) currently anymore than CAT 1 and investing in CAT 2 or better isn't going to magically persuade (visibility) diverts from LBA or NCL if they have the necessary CAT rating to allow landings in adverse conditions.
Basically once NCL and LBA had invested in the equipment it wouldn't really matter what Teesside had, but lets not allow that to get in the way of your Teesside hating agenda!

Interesting that you conveniently ignore the crippling cost of COVID ... overwhelmingly the most catastrophic episode afflicting commercial aviation since WW2 ... in order to shift blame to Brexit. Selective memory, perhaps?

Brexit didn't stop customers booking TUI Holidays, and it didn't force out the Wizz Air East European flights - they continue at LBA now. Cargo, 2Excel and specialist operators such as NPAS and HM Coastguard were doing just fine at DSA too.

But by all means deny reality and blame everything on Brexit. The £500Bn bill for coronapanic in the UK has nothing to do with the recession, right? And how about war between Russia and Ukraine which caused fuel prices to spike? No, let's ignore all that and just blame those who exercised their democratic right to vote to leave the EU.

DSA has proven to be a perennial loss maker throughout the tenure of Peel with no obvious solution to reverse that. But it occupies land which will be worth a lucrative valuation if redeveloped for warehousing and logistics. Peel is first and foremost a property developer. That's the real issue, not Brexit voters.

If you scroll back through the Manchester thread you'll find comments about how good a pandemic DSA was having.

interesting that someone who appears to be Australian living in Australia seems to know just how well BREXIT worked out................... the fact that no politician mentions it now tells you all you need to know. But up to a point it wasn't that that killed DSA- it was just the wrong airport in the wrong place - it was always struggling at the bottom of the pile.

Perhaps it is time to close this thread and further discussion moved to Aviation History and Nostalgia.

You say that, but the Manston thread keeps popping up and it is even less likely to be reopened than DSA.

Interesting...............

Removal of Doncaster Sheffield Airport airspace Airspace change ID: ACP-2022-082 Current status:PAUSED The CAA has paused this ACP as we have been informed by Doncaster Sheffield Airport (DSA) that the provision of air traffic services for DSA airspace will remain in place until further notice. We will be working with all parties to establish an understanding of the full proposal. Current step: Step 1a Created: 31 October 2022 Last updated: 17 November 2022

Dont they have a legal agreement in place with DMBC that they will not formally close the airport until the end of November?

IIRC, that debate related to PPE cargo charters, not general operations or overall profitability. All of our commercial airports lost a fortune back then ... a "good pandemic" means a small offset to the otherwise inevitable humungous losses.

QUOTE: interesting that someone who appears to be Australian living in Australia seems to know just how well BREXIT worked out.

Obviously, the concept of air travel is new to you? We're not all rooted to the spot! And both the UK and Australia enjoy internet access for keeping up with the news. As do the many other countries which I visit.

Why? At the moment the airport is still open, Controllers, Operational Staff, and Fire Crew are still employed. Let's see what happens before we write the thread off.

Do mention the Gammons as Covid and UKR have just pushed the end game of Brexit faster forward that it would have done otherwise. Amazingly a lot of people working at DSA I know voted for it. They are the ones having to relocate.

I'm struggling to understand why the closure of DSA is because of Brexit. Was the airport really that dependent on unemployed people in Romania coming to Lincolnshire to pick crops ? If so, that sounds like an airport with a very flimsy business plan. I don't think Brexit imposed particular difficulties on TUI as they seem to fly from many other UK airports.
I'm not trying to ridicule an argument... I'd just like to see a good and clear explanation of why Brexit was a substantial factor in DSA largely ceasing to be an airport