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SWBKCB 13th Oct 2022 17:25


14. The overriding principle of compulsory purchase compensation is ‘equivalence’. This is the principle that people whose land is acquired compulsorily should be left neither better nor worse off financially as a result of their land being acquired – being entitled to compensation which is neither more nor less than the value of their loss.


Market value


24. The law specifies that the compensation to be paid where land is compulsorily acquired shall reflect what that land might be expected to realise if it were sold in the open market by a willing seller at the valuation date. In other words, compensation is based on the market value of the land which is to be acquired.

25. However, the assessment of compensation ignores any increase or decrease in value caused by the acquiring authority’s proposed scheme (e.g. regeneration project, new road, railway line etc) or the prospect of that scheme. This is known as the ‘no scheme principle’. The basic premise is that compensation should reflect what your land would be worth if the scheme to which the CPO relates did not exist (i.e. in the ‘no scheme world’).

26. The acquiring authority will normally appoint a chartered surveyor to undertake the estimate of the market value. You may appoint a surveyor to carry out your own assessment and to negotiate with the acquiring authority on your behalf.

Land with development potential

27. The market value of land may reflect what it is worth in its existing use (‘existing use value’). However, the market value of land may in some cases be affected by:
  • its development potential, taking account of:
    • existing planning permission(s) for an alternative use or development
    • the prospect of obtaining planning permission for an alternative use or development (‘hope value’)
  • its ability to unlock the development potential of an adjoining site by, for example, providing the only possible access to it (‘ransom value’)
  • the extent to which, if combined with one or more other land interests, it would be worth more than the sum of their individual values (‘marriage value’)



    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/compulso...-and-occupiers

    Buster the Bear 13th Oct 2022 21:16

    CPO! Kerrrching! With that level of debt to purchase the airport, it'll never make a profit! Would require an act of parliament to purchase. How does that fit in with private investment? Local authorities would have to take out loans. Can of worms.

    dsamole 14th Oct 2022 19:56

    Some interesting developments from the past couple of days.

    Keith Moran has been in talks with the CAA asking them to hold off on removing the licenses after the last aircraft to depart.

    David Grant from PEEL (Now AD), who has been put at DSA by PEEL is now using facebook to communicate with employee's across the airport about their futures. Highly unprofessional, and a large hammer blow for those who do not have any social media accounts.


    Notwithstanding their readiness to engage with the parties revealed yesterday, with the information currently available, Peel's position has not changed since the announcement on Monday, 26th September. The Strategic Review's conclusion remains that there are no tangible proposals regarding the ownership of the Airport or which address the fundamental lack of financial viability. Therefor, the process will continue for DSA to begin winding down the provision of aviation services during the week begging Monday, 31st October 2022.

    Further communication with DSA staff will, rightly, flow through the Consultation process and if circumstances change, I will ensure you are notified as soon as practically possible.

    AircraftOperations 14th Oct 2022 22:14


    Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11313489)
    Some interesting developments from the past couple of days.

    Keith Moran has been in talks with the CAA asking them to hold off on removing the licenses after the last aircraft to depart.

    David Grant from PEEL (Now AD), who has been put at DSA by PEEL is now using facebook to communicate with employee's across the airport about their futures. Highly unprofessional, and a large hammer blow for those who do not have any social media accounts.

    Is the above a verbatim quote from him on Facebook? If so, poor spelling and saying that the September announcement on a Monday was the 29th hardly adds credibility.

    TimmyW 18th Oct 2022 14:20

    From the mayor - talks with Peel and the proposed buyers will be taking place this week,

    Asturias56 19th Oct 2022 07:36

    And they'll ask him to pay a few million and he'll read the papers about forthcoming cuts to public spending..............

    dsamole 21st Oct 2022 21:34

    ATC given their notices today.

    PEEL continuing to tear it apart even whilst pretending to be interested in negotiations.

    aapeters 22nd Oct 2022 08:40

    Apparently Swissport from other airports have been at DSA taking / reserving things for their airports..

    Mooncrest 22nd Oct 2022 10:29


    Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11317589)
    ATC given their notices today.

    PEEL continuing to tear it apart even whilst pretending to be interested in negotiations.

    I guess this only affects the ATC staff on site. Doncaster Radar is serviced from a console at Liverpool.

    N707ZS 22nd Oct 2022 10:39

    Let's hope they can find jobs quickly.

    Asturias56 22nd Oct 2022 16:32

    "PEEL continuing to tear it apart even whilst pretending to be interested in negotiations."

    They're being polite - everyone knows that - the Council aren't going to raise any money in the current climate to keep the place open.

    dsamole 22nd Oct 2022 21:01


    Originally Posted by Mooncrest (Post 11317863)
    I guess this only affects the ATC staff on site. Doncaster Radar is serviced from a console at Liverpool.

    Correct, however LPL controllers who work for ATCSL (owned by PEEL) have been told their jobs are safe and they will be redistributed to other radar area's still based at LPL.

    DSA controllers have been given notice and redundancy meetings start next week.

    oldart 23rd Oct 2022 10:17


    Originally Posted by aapeters (Post 11317809)
    Apparently Swissport from other airports have been at DSA taking / reserving things for their airports..

    Does that include the freight lifter that came from MME, is it being returned?

    AirLCY 23rd Oct 2022 13:14


    Originally Posted by oldart (Post 11318442)
    Does that include the freight lifter that came from MME, is it being returned?

    Not unless there is some widebody flying…..so highly unlikely

    ATNotts 23rd Oct 2022 15:19

    Can anyone enlighten me as to where the perishables freight operation has moved to? Doesn't appear to be EMA or BHX.

    EGNXROB 23rd Oct 2022 15:43

    [QUOTE=ATNotts;11318593]Can anyone enlighten me as to where the perishables freight operation has moved to? Doesn't appear to be EMA or BHX.[/QUOTE

    Astral B744 TF-AMU due from Lagos 06.55 into EMA tomorrow morning which could be the new operation into EMA?

    ATNotts 23rd Oct 2022 15:53

    [QUOTE=EGNXROB;11318609]

    Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11318593)
    Can anyone enlighten me as to where the perishables freight operation has moved to? Doesn't appear to be EMA or BHX.[/QUOTE

    Astral B744 TF-AMU due from Lagos 06.55 into EMA tomorrow morning which could be the new operation into EMA?

    That's interesting, that must be the first flight then. Assume they must have gone elsewhere while putting the EMA operation in place. EMA is the best alternative to DSA assuming the produce is destined for markets in the Midlands and North.

    dsamole 23rd Oct 2022 19:53

    Since the operation ceased at DSA they have been going into LGG and being trucked across but the flight into EMA tomorrow is the first trial. Will be coming from NBO.

    ATNotts 24th Oct 2022 09:53


    Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11318715)
    Since the operation ceased at DSA they have been going into LGG and being trucked across but the flight into EMA tomorrow is the first trial. Will be coming from NBO.

    I can't imagine that flying UK destined for the UK into an EU airport, and one three hours by road from the channel crossing is ideal. With perishables time is everything, and not just from a quality standpoint. Arriving late at wholesale markets knocks the value of the products right back, and making the supply chain so long, given the potential for "sh1t to happen", such as road closures, strikes, blockages, weather etc ought to make it a very risky business. Utilising a UK airport would appear very much more preferable on all levels, not least as at some time in the next 15 months the UK government is going to start full checks of agri-food products arriving from the EU which just shoves another potential obstacle into the supply chain.

    FR24 shows the origin point for the EMA flight as LOS rather than NBO, not sure why that would have been, given that most of the DSA flights, if I recall correctly came from NBO.

    In an ideal world the business would return to DSA, but at the moment that seems as likely as Croydon reopening!

    SWBKCB 24th Oct 2022 10:09


    I can't imagine that flying UK destined for the UK into an EU airport, and one three hours by road from the channel crossing is ideal. With perishables time is everything, and not just from a quality standpoint. Arriving late at wholesale markets knocks the value of the products right back, and making the supply chain so long, given the potential for "sh1t to happen", such as road closures, strikes, blockages, weather etc ought to make it a very risky business. Utilising a UK airport would appear very much more preferable on all levels, not least as at some time in the next 15 months the UK government is going to start full checks of agri-food products arriving from the EU which just shoves another potential obstacle into the supply chain.
    Just a small percentage of the perishables arriving in the UK each week - no big deal.


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