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nobullshit63 10th Oct 2022 08:36

Hi TheCargoMAn it is easy to be a keyboard warrior at least have the decency to name or shame who these people

davidjpowell 12th Oct 2022 18:15

According to the local MP, a consortium is likely to put an offer to Peel in the next 48 hours.

Too little too late? Probably. But hopefully not. Time will tell.

aapeters 13th Oct 2022 08:28

With what airlines now operating? non, Oil spill gone, there's no business case.

jumpseater 13th Oct 2022 09:21

https://www.doncaster.gov.uk/News/st...qi6VI-EAburNwY


SWBKCB 13th Oct 2022 09:27

Price has just gone up again.

davidjpowell 13th Oct 2022 09:48


Originally Posted by aapeters (Post 11312670)
With what airlines now operating? non, Oil spill gone, there's no business case.

Local mayor says they have been talking to the airlines and operators and they would come back.

Dunno - shrugging my shoulders.

What will be will be.

SWBKCB 13th Oct 2022 10:33


We have also spoken to existing airline and commercial operators who use DSA who have said that they would remain if Peel reversed the closure.
But the airport was losing money when they were there.


There is also considerable interest from new airlines, freight and other aviation industries that would like to use and invest in the airport and would do if Peel would end this uncertainty and negotiate.
You wonder why they are only now showing an interest - airport has been there a while. Suppose the arguement will be that Peel didn't pursue or discouraged them

jumpseater 13th Oct 2022 10:36


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11312721)
Suppose the arguement will be that Peel didn't pursue or discouraged them

Not so much an argument as a factual statement.

aapeters 13th Oct 2022 10:54

Airlines now have contracts in place at other airports. How easy is it for them to scarp it and move back, along with messing customers around / rebooks. I believe its a dead duck.

SWBKCB 13th Oct 2022 11:08


Originally Posted by jumpseater (Post 11312722)
Not so much an argument as a factual statement.

Could be - conversley, there are good deals to be struck when politics stick their reputations onto high profile projects.

davidjpowell 13th Oct 2022 11:43


Originally Posted by aapeters (Post 11312727)
Airlines now have contracts in place at other airports. How easy is it for them to scarp it and move back, along with messing customers around / rebooks. I believe its a dead duck.

I'm surprised its an option, but it sounds like communications are open. Perhaps there is some life support for this duck. We will see.

Airbanda 13th Oct 2022 13:27


Originally Posted by jumpseater (Post 11312695)

The final line there refers to Judicial Review (JR) of Peel's decision to close.

How does that work? JR is about administrative action by government or public authorities. Is a decision by a commercial operator to close a facility susceptible to JR?

IANAL but I cannot see how JR could be used to change the position.

ATNotts 13th Oct 2022 14:05


Originally Posted by Airbanda (Post 11312799)
The final line there refers to Judicial Review (JR) of Peel's decision to close.

How does that work? JR is about administrative action by government or public authorities. Is a decision by a commercial operator to close a facility susceptible to JR?

IANAL but I cannot see how JR could be used to change the position.

It looks very much as though this thread is going to take the same path as the Manston thread did when the plug was pulled there with eternal optimists continuing to clutch at straws. A shame, but that's the reality.

davidjpowell 13th Oct 2022 14:17

I think everyone knows it's the last chance saloon. And that chance is slim.

I agree with the comment on Judicial Review. She made herself look a little silly there.

jumpseater 13th Oct 2022 14:31


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11312810)
It looks very much as though this thread is going to take the same path as the Manston thread did when the plug was pulled there with eternal optimists continuing to clutch at straws. A shame, but that's the reality.

If you read what she said, she said they were prepared to instigate a compulsory purchase order. That doesn’t sound like an eternal optimist clutching at straws, especially if they have credible backers interested in the site for aviation.

Judicial Review, she mentions investigation of possibility of it. Presumably along the lines of the airport is potentially considered a ‘public body’ as its contracted to be available for NPAS/Coastguard Oil Spill and other 24/7/365 Govt requirements. Manston didn’t have those taskings.

SWBKCB 13th Oct 2022 14:34


Presumably along the lines of the airport is potentially considered a ‘public body’ as its contracted to be available for NPAS/Coastguard Oil Spill and other 24/7/365 Govt requirements.
Would love to see the legal advice that came up with that!

jumpseater 13th Oct 2022 15:09


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11312822)
Would love to see the legal advice that came up with that!


Do keep up.

Read the bit where they’re investigating the possibility of seeing if a JR could be undertaken.

No legal advice given.

SWBKCB 13th Oct 2022 15:15


Read the bit where they’re investigating the possibility of seeing if a JR could be undertaken
And if the thought of a JR has crossed your mind, the first thing you would do is talk to a lawyer. And didn't Manston have a Coastguard base?

davidjpowell 13th Oct 2022 15:54


Originally Posted by jumpseater (Post 11312819)
If you read what she said, she said they were prepared to instigate a compulsory purchase order. That doesn’t sound like an eternal optimist clutching at straws, especially if they have credible backers interested in the site for aviation.

Judicial Review, she mentions investigation of possibility of it. Presumably along the lines of the airport is potentially considered a ‘public body’ as its contracted to be available for NPAS/Coastguard Oil Spill and other 24/7/365 Govt requirements. Manston didn’t have those taskings.

IF they are going to CP, they should just get on with it and agree a price now while it's open, before Peel has handed back the licenses stripped out the equipment and sacked all the skilled staff, and while they have these customers who say they will come back.

jumpseater 13th Oct 2022 17:00


Originally Posted by davidjpowell (Post 11312863)
IF they are going to CP, they should just get on with it and agree a price now while it's open, before Peel has handed back the licenses stripped out the equipment and sacked all the skilled staff, and while they have these customers who say they will come back.

While they’re still in talks, according to the mayor’s piece, I can’t see the benefit of starting the cpo. Who sets the price for an ‘thing’ subject to a cpo? And how is the price set? Anyone know?


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