Humberside may not benefit in the immediate aftermath, but it could do well in the medium term from this. It used to punch above its weight with IT flights, before DSA opened.
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Originally Posted by rodan
(Post 11303619)
Humberside may not benefit in the immediate aftermath, but it could do well in the medium term from this. It used to punch above its weight with IT flights, before DSA opened.
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Originally Posted by wowzz
(Post 11303602)
I would have thought the catchment area would be far too small to interest the likes of TUI. Anyone living west of the A1 is more likely to head for LBA or EMA.
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Originally Posted by wowzz
(Post 11303602)
I would have thought the catchment area would be far too small to interest the likes of TUI. Anyone living west of the A1 is more likely to head for LBA or EMA.
Kind regards BristolexFlyer |
767-300 of Britannia/Thomson would have been circa 2004 or 2005. Is Humberside H24 or have the facility to extend opening into the night for delayed movements?
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
(Post 11303832)
767-300 of Britannia/Thomson would have been circa 2004 or 2005. Is Humberside H24 or have the facility to extend opening into the night for delayed movements?
Kind Regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by BristolexFlyer
(Post 11303816)
I am fairly confident in saying that Humberside has, in the past, been Tui/Thomson’s best selling UK departure point. We’re going back a few years, but it genuinely rings a bell. Over the years, they flew to Palma, Ibiza, Tenerife, Reus, Corfu, Dalaman and a couple more. Even 767 on the Corfu (W LBA).
Kind regards BristolexFlyer It obviously wasn't the number of passengers, or the number of flights, so what was it ? |
Originally Posted by wowzz
(Post 11303882)
Can you explain what you mean by "best selling departure " point ?
It obviously wasn't the number of passengers, or the number of flights, so what was it ? Kind Regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by BristolexFlyer
(Post 11303885)
Afraid I have no idea. I followed HUY closely, still do. It’s not out of thin air, but I completely understand without hard evidence, it cannot be substantiated.
Kind Regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11303887)
I seem to recall it was rate of sale that was amongst the best performing in the UK. The year DSA opened, HUY had 8 weekly departures to PMI alone, including one on a Thomson 767. Obviously things conspired. I would question whether there is any will from the owners of HUY to pursue this market once more, given the increased costs in doing so.
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Basically how quickly the flights are selling. Those airports with a high rate of sale (basically percentage of seat capacity sold over a given period of time) may be in line for more capacity than those with a low rate of sale who may lose capacity. But you also have to factor in area of country as Northern airports tend to sell more early on than Southern ones but this effect works itself out eventually as Southern one’s catch up. Also long haul sells earlier than short/medium haul. Each tour operator will have its own expectation at to where it expects to be at a particular point in time for a particular airport and will also need to account for new route effect, route mix etc. when analysing and comparing. An interesting science for all concerned.
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There is still some pressure on locally to resolve this and either find a buyer or carry out CPO.
Now Tui have started to move their flights I have my doubts how it can be viable, but airports have had closures and near misses, and come back so who knows. I'm far form certain how successful a CPO would be. I'm sure that would be a long drawn out process with a lot of disagreement on value! |
Originally Posted by davidjpowell
(Post 11304186)
There is still some pressure on locally to resolve this and either find a buyer or carry out CPO.
Now Tui have started to move their flights I have my doubts how it can be viable, but airports have had closures and near misses, and come back so who knows. I'm far form certain how successful a CPO would be. I'm sure that would be a long drawn out process with a lot of disagreement on value! I don’t think it’s over yet. |
Originally Posted by GAXLN
(Post 11304102)
Basically how quickly the flights are selling. Those airports with a high rate of sale (basically percentage of seat capacity sold over a given period of time) may be in line for more capacity than those with a low rate of sale who may lose capacity. But you also have to factor in area of country as Northern airports tend to sell more early on than Southern ones but this effect works itself out eventually as Southern one’s catch up. Also long haul sells earlier than short/medium haul. Each tour operator will have its own expectation at to where it expects to be at a particular point in time for a particular airport and will also need to account for new route effect, route mix etc. when analysing and comparing. An interesting science for all concerned.
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
(Post 11304281)
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"How would the land be valued should it be subject to a CPO, as an airport that has apparently lost a lot of money, or a large plot of development land worth £hundred of millions?"
Guess. And who can afford a CPO on any grounds? The council has better uses for its cash - or it will have shortly after the "mini-budget" |
Originally Posted by wowzz
(Post 11302960)
I have used DSA as much as possible, but basically, unless you want to fly with TUI, you were out of options. If Easy or Jet2 had based just two airframes there, the story might have been different.
(Yes I have flown from there…I actually used to work there). |
Originally Posted by GAXLN
(Post 11304102)
Basically how quickly the flights are selling. Those airports with a high rate of sale (basically percentage of seat capacity sold over a given period of time) may be in line for more capacity than those with a low rate of sale who may lose capacity. But you also have to factor in area of country as Northern airports tend to sell more early on than Southern ones but this effect works itself out eventually as Southern one’s catch up. Also long haul sells earlier than short/medium haul. Each tour operator will have its own expectation at to where it expects to be at a particular point in time for a particular airport and will also need to account for new route effect, route mix etc. when analysing and comparing. An interesting science for all concerned.
Im seeing the closure of DSA as a net loss to the region currently. |
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