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davidjohnson6 13th Feb 2019 15:51

Then why spend the money on a runway ? Can't imagine it was cheap and must be a bit of an extreme way to pull the wool over the planning dept at the local council

10 DME ARC 13th Feb 2019 16:41

“Why spend the money on a runway?” Purely because they couldn’t get planning permission for purely a distribution centre!! Small price to pay to get the only thing they want the road distribution centre!! They tried they will say!

DC3 Dave 13th Feb 2019 18:55

I'm sure Stobart would be more than happy to see commercial flights from CAX, and would be willing to support Loganair or someone else to make it possible, but, frankly, I very much doubt that it's high on their must do list right now. If there was a cheap solution to the ATC problem then progress could be made, but I don't think they'll try that hard because, as others have pointed out, they've already developed the airfield in a way that makes aviation optional.

sixchannel 13th Feb 2019 19:01


Originally Posted by 10 DME ARC (Post 10388934)
“Why spend the money on a runway?” Purely because they couldn’t get planning permission for purely a distribution centre!! Small price to pay to get the only thing they want the road distribution centre!! They tried they will say!

Got it in one.
If there were to be ANY commercial flights, trained ATC would be in place now and whichever airline had money / aircraft riding on it would be getting very publicly antsy.
A new 'runway' makes great truck hardstanding.
is it going to be the Airport equivalent of Atmosphere Intercontinental Airlines? ;-)

southside bobby 14th Feb 2019 04:16

Stobart have stated locally that ATC is in training for a commencement of commercial ops in the Spring.

However... the statement is in connection with an apparent problem with the new control tower having non-angled windows which could cause unwanted reflections for controllers thereby necessitating continued use of the existing tower for at least another 12 months whilst the windows in the new tower are replaced/reworked.

nighthawk117 14th Feb 2019 07:58


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10389411)
Stobart have stated locally that ATC is in training for a commencement of commercial ops in the Spring.

However... the statement is in connection with an apparent problem with the new control tower having non-angled windows which could cause unwanted reflections for controllers thereby necessitating continued use of the existing tower for at least another 12 months whilst the windows in the new tower are replaced/reworked.

They stated at the open day before Christmas that the intention was to keep the old tower operational for the first 6 months or so anyway. They wanted to get flights up and running as a priority, then worry about moving the control tower.

Surely changing out the windows wont take more than a week or two?

southside bobby 14th Feb 2019 08:14

Stobart quoted as saying the old tower will be used for at least 12 months of ops.

SWBKCB 14th Feb 2019 08:18


Stobart quoted as saying the old tower will be used for at least 12 months of ops.
Where is this from?

southside bobby 14th Feb 2019 08:46

in-cumbria

SWBKCB 21st Feb 2019 14:16


Tickets for the first commercial flights from Carlisle airport in 20 years are due to go on sale soon. Stobart Group said once the Civil Aviation Authority was satisfied with air traffic control staff training, tickets for Loganair flights to Dublin, London Southend and Belfast, will become available. However, the company would not be drawn on a date for its first flight. It is hoped it will be in the spring.
Carlisle airport poised to clear final hurdle to release flight tickets

fjencl 21st Feb 2019 18:03

https://www.cumbriacrack.com/2019/02...-atc-training/

https://www.stobartgroup.co.uk/people/vacancies/#group

nighthawk117 22nd Feb 2019 07:58


“These ensure that the airport’s team of air traffic controllers are receiving wide-ranging training that is fully preparing them for the re-opening of the airport and commencement of commercial flights later in the year.”
So Spring is out the window then?

tophat27dt 22nd Feb 2019 08:20


Originally Posted by nighthawk117 (Post 10397266)
So Spring is out the window then?

Yes. Too late for spring ops.

mikkie4 22nd Feb 2019 08:35

didn't say what spring of what year

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daz211 4th Mar 2019 11:23

Southend Airport just tweeted, NEW ROUTE, SEN-CAX, starting 4th July.

nighthawk117 4th Mar 2019 11:25

Flights now on sale - starts 4th July.

looks like Southend reduced to 1x daily - 1420 departure - now useless for business.

sixchannel 4th Mar 2019 11:31


Originally Posted by nighthawk117 (Post 10406470)
Flights now on sale - starts 4th July.

looks like Southend reduced to 1x daily - 1420 departure - now useless for business.

Totally agree.
When is the CAX-SEN return?

BAladdy 4th Mar 2019 11:33


Originally Posted by nighthawk117 (Post 10406470)
Flights now on sale - starts 4th July.

looks like Southend reduced to 1x daily - 1420 departure - now useless for business.

Even more useless the 4 x weekly service currently showing. No flights on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Saturday. Looks like flights currently being loaded. So schedule likely to change.

BHD and DUB also being added

AirportPlanner1 4th Mar 2019 11:45

Seems to be SEN 4x weekly, BHD & DUB 5 x weekly.

SEN is very much timed for leisure travellers with a great schedule for a weekend away (or perhaps a working week in London).

DUB would seem to be nicely scheduled for onward connections.

There are no flights at all on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, it seems as though the operation has been set up to be undertaken by a single crew.


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