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SWBKCB 3rd Aug 2018 10:19

The video is quite revealing - the access by foot and the main entrance (with the canopy) leads to the Stobart Rail offices.

The entrance to the airport "arrivals" is tucked away in the corner of the building. How many pax will see the big "Carlise Airport" signage and end up getting turned away by Reception!

mabmac 7th Aug 2018 09:12

Carlisle Lake District Airport made the following announcement this morning:
"We are pleased to announce that Carlisle Lake District Airport has reopened for general aviation flights today!
People can now land light aircraft at Carlisle Lake District Airport between 10:00 and 17:00, seven days per week, and use the Café Stobart in the North Apron and the newly opened Borderlands Café in the South Apron."

Barling Magna 7th Aug 2018 09:57

Hallelujah!

fjencl 7th Aug 2018 17:30

Better late than never

ericlday 7th Aug 2018 17:36

Better never late

highwideandugly 7th Aug 2018 20:26

Late? Better never..

mabmac 9th Aug 2018 10:25

The following has been reported in the local press:

Carlisle Lake District Airport has announced that it is cutting fuel and landing fees for general aviation (GA) customers.
The move is designed to recognise the support of the GA community during the construction of the new runway and terminal at Carlisle Lake District Airport.
Landing fees will be discounted at 20% for August and reviewed for September
Avgas fuel will be £1.70 per litre (including VAT), commencing on Friday 10 August until Sunday 30 September
Jet fuel prices will remain unchanged at market rates
Stobart Café, located in the North Apron, will also offer a free tea or coffee with every purchase above £5
The latest announcement follows the airport’s reopening to light aircraft on Tuesday 7 August.
Kate Willard, Head of Corporate Projects at Stobart Group, said: “These amazing offers show Carlisle Lake District Airport is well and truly open to the GA community, who have been incredibly supportive over the last few months. Our lower landing and fuel fees mean this gateway to the Lake District and the south of Scotland is even more accessible to light aircraft.”

To quote a supermarket, "every little helps" but does it really make up for the 9 months closure, originally announced as 2 1/2 months? It might even induce the "incredibly supportive" Border Air Training to return. Also it might encourage the flying pigs to use the facilities. You never know!

jamesgrainge 9th Aug 2018 10:38

Was there a part in that video where they laid some concrete and then dug it up again around the runway edge?

Beatts 9th Aug 2018 13:25


Originally Posted by jamesgrainge (Post 10219071)
Was there a part in that video where they laid some concrete and then dug it up again around the runway edge?

Yeah looks like the piece further up had too large of an offset so was redone to match the lower piece. Also couple of drainage bits done in and amongst that area too.

Probably the stress of everyone watching wanting the runway open got to them ;) 😂

Beatts 24th Aug 2018 14:24

"Announcement https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/e...1/16/1f4e2.png📢: Carlisle Lake District Airport is delighted to announce that it has opened its new runway today.

The development means that a wider range of general aviation (GA) planes, including some private jets such as the Gulfstream 650, Learjet (8-12 seat type) and the Citation X 6 Mustang, can now use the airport.

The civil aviation authority (CAA) gave special approval to operate the 1,799-metre-long, 30-metre-wide 06/24 runway within the stated operational procedures.

The news, which comes just before the long Bank Holiday weekend, follows the announcement of a series of GA offers at the airport:

• Landing fees will be discounted at 20% for August and reviewed for September
• Avgas fuel will be £1.70 per litre (including VAT), commencing on Friday 10 August until Sunday 30 September
• Jet fuel prices will remain unchanged at market rates
• Stobart Café, located in the North Apron, will also offer a free tea or coffee with every purchase above £5

Kate Willard, Head of Corporate Projects at Stobart Group, said: “We are delighted that even more general aviation aircraft, including some private jets, can now use Carlisle Lake District Airport.

“The team at Stobart Rail and Civils have made good progress in redeveloping the airport, and the new runway is twice the length of our existing strip.

“I am also pleased to report that our air traffic controller (ATC) recruitment programme is moving ahead, and the ATC training scheme is on-track for the launch of commercial passenger flights at the airport in spring 2019 with our partner Loganair.”"

highwideandugly 12th Oct 2018 19:30

So quiet on this thread..is the airport actually functioning at the moment?

checked the AIS. Site...a lot of restrictions up to the end of the year..anyone throw any light on progress..etc. ?

tophat27dt 24th Oct 2018 07:38


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 10272360)
So quiet on this thread..is the airport actually functioning at the moment?

checked the AIS. Site...a lot of restrictions up to the end of the year..anyone throw any light on progress..etc. ?

I heard that ATC has still not been set up to be licensed anytime soon. What's the facts from up there regarding this and future scheduled flights next spring.?

NorthSouth 24th Oct 2018 09:46

As of 11th Oct, AIP lists ATC communications as Tower only, not Approach, which would imply that instrument approaches can't be flown. But the IAP charts are published in the AIP and there are no current NOTAMs saying the IAPs aren't available or that there are restrictions on ATC.

horatio_b 1st Nov 2018 16:28

Public forum arranged for Monday November 26th: https://twitter.com/carlisleairport
We believe that we all agree that a successful GA and commercial airport is important for the region. We will therefore be hosting a public forum at Carlisle Lake District Airport on 26th November. If you’d like to come, please send us your email address in a private message.

DC3 Dave 1st Nov 2018 20:47

What is going on here? Surely Stobart are inviting trouble. Or is that what they want? An excuse to put on hold further development due to environmental concerns expressed by "The Cumbrian Community." ie no commercial aviation.

tophat27dt 1st Nov 2018 20:58


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 10299208)
What is going on here? Surely Stobart are inviting trouble. Or is that what they want? An excuse to put on hold further development due to environmental concerns expressed by "The Cumbrian Community." ie no commercial aviation.

Why spend millions on a new project then drop it? Doesn't make sense.

DC3 Dave 1st Nov 2018 21:51

Does to me. Stobart spent big money on regional air services from SEN to MAN and GLA, only to abandon the project and move on (fair enough).

Is it just a coincidence that a certain former director lives literally around the corner from the airfield? Was CAX just a part of someone's belief that Stobart could become no 1 UK (and Eire) regional air operator?

I' m not saying that commercial aviation at CAX will not happen. I just wonder how high up making it happen is on Stobart's priority list.

Does the Stobart group still have a Cumbrian link?

AirportPlanner1 1st Nov 2018 23:16

Don’t forget the original scheduled services were pulled very shortly before launch date. That should have given decent data on bookings and demand thus indicating whether the flights would indeed be worthwhile in the future. Don’t be too shocked if they don’t reappear even if ATC is sorted. The modest pax ‘terminal’ would be perfectly adequate for the occasional charter or a football team visiting Carlisle United for example.

SWBKCB 2nd Nov 2018 07:53


Does the Stobart group still have a Cumbrian link?
Well, they own an airport and have their HQ there. What's their link to Essex? :ok:

I quick look at the airports FB page will reveal the reason for the public forum - there has been a serious loss of credibility locally, not helped by some insensitive social media activity. Their treatment of the local GA community in particular has been appalling

DC3 Dave 2nd Nov 2018 09:17


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10299493)
Well, they own an airport and have their HQ there. What's their link to Essex? :ok:

I walked straight into that one! I meant do any of the key people have links to the region.


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