|
Very nice rare shots of TEJ - Thanks - XOL was also on from air Holland IIRC? |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10606282)
Very nice rare shots of TEJ - Thanks - XOL was also on from air Holland IIRC? |
G-CPEV wfu
Looks like G-CPEV is currently flying MAN-DGX to join G-OOBG. |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10608131)
Looks like G-CPEV is currently flying MAN-DGX to join G-OOBG. |
Further to the above, G-OOBG has now left DGX. Showing on FR24 as operating CWL-N/A under TOM928P. |
|
Jethros has G-BYAW due to be wfu on 4 Nov.
If true, that will be three gone in relatively quick succession. They also have info on the new 789s, to quote: G-TUIN - Due BHX 14 Nov 19 G-TUIO - Due BHX 20 Nov 19 |
The B757s are planned to be gone by the 2021 summer season.
|
Luton said farewell to its last based 757 this week |
Originally Posted by Falcon666
(Post 10609404)
Assuming BYAW goes and all others stay until next summer, there will be 9 left. If the MAX is back then more may leave before/during S20. |
Originally Posted by Falcon666
(Post 10609404)
|
Originally Posted by Refuellerman
(Post 9939289)
Yes not everyone is a teacher, obviously we aren't all up to you're a* grammar, who cares?🤣
|
Wonder if the rumours of TUI dumping Sanford for Melbourne Florida are true... Not exactly an improvement on the already low step of the 'luxury' ladder which is SFB... Suppose you just want to get in and out. |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10610825)
Wonder if the rumours of TUI dumping Sanford for Melbourne Florida are true... Not exactly an improvement on the already low step of the 'luxury' ladder which is SFB... Suppose you just want to get in and out. |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10610825)
Wonder if the rumours of TUI dumping Sanford for Melbourne Florida are true... Not exactly an improvement on the already low step of the 'luxury' ladder which is SFB... Suppose you just want to get in and out. |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10610825)
Wonder if the rumours of TUI dumping Sanford for Melbourne Florida are true... Not exactly an improvement on the already low step of the 'luxury' ladder which is SFB... Suppose you just want to get in and out. |
Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 10610831)
Yes, it has been confirmed by TUI - starting 2022.
News Releases |
A shot in the arm for Virgin who fly to Orlando International. Thomas Cook moved to Orlando International a number of years ago from Sanford..... |
Melbourne is probably easier than Sanford and it certainly better for cruise market
|
A quick check on Google Maps shows only a 19 minute increase:
Sanford to Kissimmee = 55 mins Melbourne to Kissimmee = 1hr 14 mins Blimey, if you've done a 9hr flight an extra 20 minutes won't make any difference. And by the sounds of it the arrival experience will be quite pleasant, according to the press statement all TUI customers will be welcomed "with a glass of fresh Florida orange juice"! :} |
MCO v SFB v MLB
Most UK and German charter airlines started to switched to SFB from MCO around 20 years ago - Thomson and Monarch being the first to switch. UK airlines were offered greatly reduced landing fees at Sanford, and therefore many carriers relocated their operations. Virgin and BA stayed put at MCO Thomas Cook went back to use MCO in 2014. TUI's latest move to MLB airport is to tie-in with their large cruise ship operation, with the MLB airport nearer Port Canaveral. Downtown Orlando is around 45 mins drive from SFB, whereas it is around 75 mins from MLB Jet2 are mooted to be going to Florida - as charter flights not LCC, so assume SFB or MCO. |
No tourist will be going to downtown Orlando so that journey stat is basically irrelevant. 20 extra minutes in this context does make a longish transfer after a long-haul flight even worse. If they were moving from International you could make the argument the speed to get through Melbourne would offset that. But they’re not, they’re moving from Sanford where TUI more or less has the monopoly on international arrivals anyway so immigration time will be no different. That was one benefit of Sanford over International, much further by road but much quicker to pass through. This will be very much advantage BA/VS along with anyone new entrants that might come onto the route. |
Out of interest, the time to International Drive from each airport is as follows
Sanford 50mins Orlando Int 20mins Melbourne 80mins I know which my preference would be after a 9 hour flight and driving to the hotel. We have had just as long a queue at immigration at Sanford compared to Orlando International |
Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10611362)
No tourist will be going to downtown Orlando so that journey stat is basically irrelevant. 20 extra minutes in this context does make a longish transfer after a long-haul flight even worse. If they were moving from International you could make the argument the speed to get through Melbourne would offset that. But they’re not, they’re moving from Sanford where TUI more or less has the monopoly on international arrivals anyway so immigration time will be no different. That was one benefit of Sanford over International, much further by road but much quicker to pass through. This will be very much advantage BA/VS along with anyone new entrants that might come onto the route. I would guess the cruise program will include coach transfers to the port. What I’m not sure of is whether they’ll check the luggage straight through to the ship, which is common place with some of their cruise packages. |
Originally Posted by pamann
(Post 10611576)
Not entirely correct. Most of TUI’s package holidays to Florida come with free car hire. Coach transfers are an added extra (the reverse to their European packages). The coach transfers from Sanford are actually quite pricey. The uptake of ‘free’ car hire is much more popular on their Florida holidays as most people like the freedom car hire gives you in Florida. |
Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10611679)
Well yeah, I didn’t mean literally a coach transfer. And actually if you’re driving the longer journey is even worse. Sanford has quite an extensive domestic network and some other bits (admittedly it had nothing when the British charters first turned up), the fact Melbourne has so few flights and recent more modest new efforts seem to have failed is quite telling. Does this mean that Orlando/Disney/Attraction theme holiday sales are on the wane/downturn? The $$$dollar XE rate is pants and the USA for a holiday now is very expensive, as are all the Attraction passes. I was in NYC in July and 2 x diner breakfasts (the usual - coffee eggs bacon hash browns English muffin) cost us $32 + tip 2 x diner breakfasts not that long ago would have been $12 for both. I'm not sure if luggage goes straight from the plane to the ship (via Bonded trucks) for cruise Pax - and yes Pax for TUI cruises will have coach transfers to/from the Port Terminal included. As for TUI Fly-drive Pax and those with hotel/villa/Disney packages, most of these folk will also have car hire included, or have a TUI transfer. Time will tell if they are phased by a 75 minute drive to the Orlando area if that is their final destination. Will any other UK airlines follow TUI into MLB ? Cannot see it happening myself... |
Jethros has G-BYAW going to the RAF. Interesting. |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10612251)
Jethros has G-BYAW going to the RAF. Interesting. Centre cities |
Originally Posted by Centre cities
(Post 10612329)
The Team Tempest project I should imagine.
Centre cities |
Interesting discussion. To be honest the drive is dependent on the driver, if used to driving on the wrong side of the road, tolls etc then i'm not that fussed about the length of the drive.
What gets my goat most is the wait for the hire car. I always seem to have to wait an age wherever i end up.... |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10612356)
In what way? Will it be scrapped and parts used in this project?
Could be wrong. Centre cities |
|
Jethros has G-BYAW going to the RAF. To be WFU 03 Nov 19. Onward to RAF (TBC) - To be confirmed. |
Originally Posted by jethro15
(Post 10612657)
I actually state:
To be WFU 03 Nov 19. Onward to RAF (TBC) - To be confirmed. |
Originally Posted by pamann
(Post 10611576)
Not entirely correct. Most of TUI’s package holidays to Florida come with free car hire. Coach transfers are an added extra (the reverse to their European packages). The coach transfers from Sanford are actually quite pricey. The uptake of ‘free’ car hire is much more popular on their Florida holidays as most people like the freedom car hire gives you in Florida. I would guess the cruise program will include coach transfers to the port. What I’m not sure of is whether they’ll check the luggage straight through to the ship, which is common place with some of their cruise packages. |
More expansion for TUI for W20 (source: Travelmole)
TUI adds an additional 580,000 seats for winter 2020 travelmole.com/news_feature.php?c=setreg®ion=2&m_id=s~_rnnvs~&w_id=36890 &news_id=2040058 |
SFB is dangerous enough. Training a/c everywhere. lousy Air Traffic Control, and MCO airspace nearby. Melbourne in a 787? Good luck...
|
Flights to Sharm el Sheikh now available to book from late February 2020 on TUI. Can find London Gatwick, Birmingham and Manchester at the moment! |
Originally Posted by flyerguy
(Post 10613783)
Flights to Sharm el Sheikh now available to book from late February 2020 on TUI. Can find London Gatwick, Birmingham and Manchester at the moment! |
TUI announced to the trade that they are to return to Cuba in Summer 2020 and Gambia in November 2020.... seats & holidays will be on sale in the coming weeks.
|
| All times are GMT. The time now is 09:39. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.