Aren't Norwegian cutting routes because they're unprofitable and as a whole the airline is a basket case?

Maybe the X millions who still want a winter holiday can get one with Jet2 as at the same time TUI are divesting themselves of any opportunity.
For sure there will be plenty of ex-TCX hotel rooms available. Jet2 might just have picked up the phone and had a little chat with them.
Strike while the irons hot?

Jet2 are not wet-leasing aircraft for the winter, let's not make up rubbish. October is still Summer season

Actually by mid dec looks like 8/9 aircraft will be operating for sunwing in Canada. OOBG first to go late oct followed shortly after by CPEV and then BYAW. VIP trips are finished in Dec and 2 x 789 due delivery before year end.

True. The hotel rooms will still be there and the hoteliers will want them filled, so it's just a case of laying on sufficient seats...though maybe not necessarily like-for-like if some markets had a surplus of capacity anyway, which may be bad news for consumers if it leads to higher prices.

It'll be interesting what happens over the coming months to replace the Thomas Cook capacity both now, over the winter and into next year.

Well TUI & Jet2 use 737 and TCX used A321 so there is already going to be a slight reduction in seats on every aircraft added vs a TCX aircraft. It might be a case of seeing TUI use Avion or Smartlynx by next summer i guess we will just have to wait and see.

Are BREXIT concerns keeping the 767s in the UK this winter? They might not be able to operate with British crews ex Scandinavia in the event of a Hard Brexit.

How long have the 2 767s got left now? I notice YF moved to Scandinavia and was re registred with OH coming the other way. Both are around 20 years old now

No tui ops from bfs tomorrow at all. End of season is approaching fast.

Not seen BAL but its common to see BY over TOM, as it's still officially their IATA code. However, TUI choose to favour their ICAO code of TOM for passenger communication. Where have you seen/heard BAL being used?

BAL has certainly been used for LGW flights. Given the numbers always usually begin with "5", I think these may be TOM taking over flights that were operated by Norwegian etc in the height of summer.

Unfortunately, TUI have absolutely no interest in expanding. At least in the short-term...


They're viewing this winter as a time to 'stabilise the operation' and, imho as a money pot for their yields... Up the revenue on their current seats before adding more.

Seems the business has a rigid and inflexible structure, they're not willing to lease in capacity and are sticking with their plans to retire some of the 757s allowing for the 737s to take up the void through the rest of W19. They're currently hoping for the return of the MAX fleet by February 2020. What happens if the MAX isn't flying by then is anyone's guess.

The company is 'vertically integrated' in order to control most aspects of it's own supply chain. This great for maintaining a cost base, but turns the company into a sluggish goliath when it comes to being agile and flexible to market changes. This is where Jet2 will make a killing.

In a nutshell, Vertical Integration can be seen like this:
Marketing > Flights > Destination Services > Content (Hotels/Cruises)

• TUI Marketing is heavily involved with pushing the TUI 'Brand Strategy'. This is centred around advertising a TUI holiday on a TUI flight with a TUI hotel, etc.
• TUI Airways won't add flights a request from the Tour Operator, even without the MAX groundings, TUI remains focused on retiring older 757s through W19, allowing 737s to pick up the flack (they currently expect the MAX to return by Feb 2020). So even if capacity was available, TUI Airways are powerless to use it without the Tour Operator.
• TUI Destination Services would need to either increase presence in current markets or open up new offices to establish a presence, this would involve contracting transport/transfers/service/handling/excursions and represents a significant cost.
• TUI Tour Operator won't contract 3rd party hotels as they're heavily invested in their 'own' brand hotels/cruises (TUI Blue, RIU, Family Life, Marella, etc).

In the end, TUI are seeing the demise of TCX as a god send for their profit margins and not as an opportunity to expand further into different markets, at least not in the short term... Expansion will happen eventually, but this will be at the 'standard' slow/steady pace that TUI has always worked to.

Dreamland

Right are you paying the illiberal and possible illegal under international law and rights of the child and that of the parent to parent ! -
Fines for taking your kids out of school in term time !

Probably not , but anyway go just about anywhere within Europe between the end of November and April and it isn’t unexpected for it to rain and for temperatures being less than spectacular , That includes places as far as Cyprus - Nicosia is bl**dy cold in January through early March I can tell you !

Winter sun its really gotta be Southern Canary resorts . West Africa and the Red Sea and further and the carriers just can’t keep anywhere same fleet numbers busy

The work for the Canadian tour companies down to Cancun, Cuba and other Caribbean isles is VERY valuable business for TUI/Smart Wings/Transavia and such.

The winter ski and fondue runs keep the remaining fleets busy pretty just on Saturday mornings really.

If you don’t believe me visit Manchester mid week and count to dozen or so Jet2 planes going nowhere .

That ain’t changing anytime soon.

PS remember that very large parts of the UK industrial private sector holiday entitlement is rather less the the headline 5 and 6 weeks the mass media might imply.

Three weeks available to take at your leisure , With a week to be held for Christmas close or stock taking periods and what is oh six bank holidays is actually the norm !

Add those school fines and huge numbers of families are exceptionally restricted as when the can actually travel (if they can even afford it !)

"Meanwhile, back at the Jet2 ranch - - "

TUI Germany
 

I see that TUI Fly (Germany) has decided to enter the long-haul market by starting with two B787s.
When and from where they will get them from, l don't know but maybe within the group.

TUIfly GmbH operated a couple of B763 4 or 5 years ago, although form memory they didn't carry TUI pax one operated for Eurowings and perhaps the other for Air Berlin (can't rememebr if it was AB)

Otherwise, the last time they actually operated their own longhaul programme, was when they had their fleet of A310 aircraft, the last of which left in 2006

Tui hikes UK capacity by two million seats
 

Source:
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...-million-seats

I wonder where all the extra Aircraft are coming from, bearing in mind the MAX issues. Will they be TUI aircraft or Wet leased in???

Wonder where they will get the aircraft to support this?

I would throw a dart that they are going to bring in some Airbus ? If not its intresting to see what they have up their sleeve.

Plenty of 737NG's available these days, despite the MAX. There will be no Airbus sub-fleet.

The colour scheme would be fascinating if were over the top of one of the ex-MON/TCX hybrid schemes.

Really? Care to share? :)

I'd love it if they got some more 757s, a brilliant aircraft. I know they won't though, although they could keep the ones they've got, they haven't done that many hours.

A chap I know has joined TUI from Ryanair and is thrilled to be flying 787s soon.

Really!?!?

A Hybrid scheme looking something like this :}

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7e51e39a5.jpeg

Actually, that looks pretty good. Gotta be Photoshop - hasn't it?!

Its a Photoshop but gives an idea of what a TCX/TUI hybrid would look like if it was to come about.

The average age of the TUI 757 fleet is 19 years old. If you look at their oldest 757 G-BYAW (ex Britannia) (24 years old) then it’s done around 87,000 hours and G-BYAY (ex Britannia) (21 years old) 76,000 hours then yes they have. However if you look at the 757’s inherited through the merger with Air 2000/First Choice Airways then most have plenty of flying hours left in them. G-OOBF (ex Air 2000/First Choice Airways) (15 years old), the youngest has only 45,000 flying hours. G-OOBC, G-OOBD, G-OOBE along with the previously mentioned G-OOBF are some of the youngest 757 frames out there (all delivered new to the airline (Air 2000/First Choice Airways as it was at the time prior to the merger) and have flown 51,000 hours or less. G-OOBA, G-OOBB, G-OOBP and G-OOBN have all also flown less than 57,000 hours. G-CPEV and G-OOBG both have around 65,000 hours so you can argue they are starting to get on a bit but are still relatively young compared with Jet2’s 757 fleet. Their 757 fleet has an average age of nearly 30 years. A number of their most heavily used examples have flown over 80,000 hours. So although far from young the vast majority of the TUI 757 fleet have plenty of flying hours left in them. Hence they are prime candidates for freighter conversion, once they finish their passenger duties.

I would've thought the recruitment for 2019 crews would've been put on hold or at least slowed down given the Max groundings. So any recruitment TUI mention probably covers any 2019 top ups and 2020 expansion. Really can't see A321's in the fleet unless they are leased in from another Airlines. The introduction of a new fleet type takes a hell of a lot of time, work and money to execute, and would unlikely be worth it if it's only a temporary measure until new Boeing aircraft arrive.
It's more than likely TUI Holidays will find capacity elsewhere (EZY/DY/VY) and TUI Airways will try and keep some of the 757's 767's longer to support capacity increases.

Regarding aircraft it has been reported that Titan are getting an A330-200 for summer 2020, I wonder who will it be flying for?

For anyone who still has 787 grounding/AOG issues...Virgin BA Norwegian....?