Maybe because ABR don't have authority to op non-EU a/c to Turkey?

That could be the reason, even though Turkey is not a member of the EU, I guess there may be restrictions on the Canadian a/c.

I suppose the main question is, why are the flights by ABR and not BY/TOM?

Sunwing flew for TUI out of LBA to DLM last year.

I was referring to the fact that there may be a restriction on the Canadian a/c operating from the ROI to Turkey rather than from the UK.

I see, so these may not be TUI Holiday flights at all then?

TUI Holidays have now quite a lot of 3rd party airlines flying for them during the past few summers instead of using in-house TUI Airways, with departures mainly out of the Outstations -
EXT NWI CWL SOU SEN BOH BRS ABZ DUB to name a few.

Volotea, Freebird, Alba Star, Sunwing, Flybe, Norwegian, ASL - Not just ACMI charters to cover the MAX debacle, but many regular charter series for the past few summers...Turkey, Spain and the Canaries being the majority of flights but not exclusively so.

How did they operate in 2018, I can't remember but I think it was Sunwing aircraft. They are trying to end this in 2020.

As in end the Sunwing agreement?

Ah right sorry I was wondering! Booked on BFS-TFS for next year so I was just wondering. Cheers!

now says 'Operated by TUI Airways'

Thanks for the heads up.....:)

From FR24, it looks like all the aircraft leased by Tui from Olympus have gone to Athens - presumably due to the summer peak being over and the extra lift no longer being needed.
Can anyone confirm this is the case, or will these aircraft be returning to Tui service before the end of October ?

Assuming the 737 Max returns to service by April 2020, should we expect Olympus aircraft to be back with Tui again in summer 2020 or is this rather unlikely ?

TUI are in an awkward position over decisions that have to be made now over capacity and lift required for next summer.
Re the 737 MAX they are 9 aircraft down (AOG) for this summer and more were due for delivery next year.

Around 10-12 757's have had there time with TUI extended for this summer, but are slated to currently go (withdrawn or sold) during, or at the end of the upcoming winter season.
So do TUI still hang onto those for next summer's plans just in case, plus the 2 767's?
The 757's may need costly MX checks to further extend their time with TUI, but faced with more ACMI charter costs that maybe more beneficial to hang on to them.

The 757's are used for the busy longer winter routes such as Cape Verde Islands and Hurghada which are popular winter sun destinations where the MAX was due to take over these.
As for the 737 MAX RTS - How long is a piece of string?

Keeping the 757's going for another year maybe IMHO very wise, but I guess there have been plenty of boardroom meetings happening now at TUI HQ.

Hanging onto them though if the MAX does not return for next summer, will still see a lack of capacity unless TUI cancels holidays.

They were originally all planned to be gone before S20

Jethros had them all down for disposal W19/20 thats all im saying.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...routes-in-w19/

Seems the 767's, in some way or another are sticking around for winter (usually op for Tui Nordic in winter). Whether its one a/c rotating in from Scandi to operate these flights or whether more are due to be announced and both will have a full schedule of UK flying through the winter.

G-OOBD MARRAKESH
 

Looks like another expensive time for TUI with G-OOBD still on the ground in Marrakesh. Outbound flight on 20 Sep left 3 hours late from Manchester with the return flight diverting back into Marrakesh where it remains. Pax eventually brought home late yesterday on B787 G-TUIA. Interestingly G-OOBD returned to Manchester on 19 Sep whilst flying to Thessaloniki. Certainly been a challenging summer for TUI and many others.

In other words, a typical day for any large charter/scheduled carrier.

In other words, a typical day for any large charter/scheduled carrier.

Indeed!...Some of the posters on this thread are clearly drama queens (or soliciting for reactions!)

It could well be the only real solution to what will be a problem come next summer.

Airframes, and hopefully, crews long gone by spring 20.
No one wants the financial drag of unnecessary equipment and crews over the winter.

The suggestion of TUI taking some of TCX aircraft and crew.

Maybe a left field suggestion for TUI but could they end up wet leasing Norwegian aircraft? Especially if Norwegian are cutting routes. Say 8 to 10 737s and 2 787 9s? They already use them at Gatwick so have an established relationship with them and it would fill the capacity gap with aircraft they are familiar with.

With demand far outweighing supply over the next year or 2 at least, prices will highly likely go up for summer holidays. It would be interesting to see if there is a shift to more winter holidays if prices are cheaper. TUI would be able to provide the capacity during the winter, with aircraft often only operating one flight per day at the smaller bases, and not sending some aircraft over the pond. Summer seasonal crews can be extended too.