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PDXCWL45 9th Apr 2019 13:38


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10443186)
Having gone into STN - the Ryanair fortress - i think they'll find BRS and/or CWL and that area a breeze in comparison.

I wouldn't count on that.
Firstly STN is owned by MAG bo they would've got a good deal from a company they already know and it's them expanding into London a massive market.

Secondly there most likely target would be Bristol which has a large Easyjet base and to BRS TUI is extremely important to them due to them providing with their only long haul routes. Jet2 risks pushing TUI out and the long haul routes with them. So I doubt very much Jet2 would get the deal they want and the ability to expand like they have at BHX and STN. As for others they probably feel they are to small a markets individually and CWL especially won't want to lose another airline and may not want to jeopardise any relationship with Ryanair.
Any base I feel would have to start small with 2 or 3 aircraft and slowly grown similar to Belfast.

southside bobby 9th Apr 2019 14:09

"The Southwest- I think they`ll find it uber competitive here".....a hoot.

LBAflyer22 is spot on.

PDXCWL45 9th Apr 2019 14:25


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10443392)
"The Southwest- I think they`ll find it uber competitive here".....a hoot.

LBAflyer22 is spot on.

I guess only time will tell, that's if they ever turn up in the area.

LBAflyer22 9th Apr 2019 17:34


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10443364)
I wouldn't count on that.
Firstly STN is owned by MAG bo they would've got a good deal from a company they already know and it's them expanding into London a massive market.

May have a good relationship with MAG but still the point is still the same. Jet2 did not fear at taking on Ryanair in STN. Look at S20 for example Jet2 are going head to head with Ryanair on STN-EGC, STN-ZAD, STN-RMU. Almost all the routes operated by Jet2 are operated by Ryanair and yet we've seen success as both carriers continue to grow at STN - working side by side. Like they do at MAN where both carriers are large in their presence.


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10443364)
Secondly there most likely target would be Bristol which has a large Easyjet base

Jet2/Jet2holidays offers a different product to easyJet and we both know this. easyJets route portfolio and schedules are built on a mix of leisure and business targeting both sorts of traffic. Jet2 on the other hand offers a reliable seat only product and differs it's holiday product from offering the standard beach holiday to city breaks in a number of destinations which include Pisa, Rome, Barcelona to name but a few. A Jet2 presence wouldn't push easyJet away but likely to make them more competitive and will help stimulate growth of markets.


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10443364)
to BRS TUI is extremely important to them due to them providing with their only long haul routes. Jet2 risks pushing TUI out and the long haul routes with them.

The same can be said for BHX and TUI with their relationship and look at TUI now. They've grown the long haul routes whilst maintaining a good presence on the short haul - I don't see Jet2 pushing TUI out of BHX and therefore do not see how Jet2 would push TUI out of BRS. The two work in harmonious competition at MAN, NCL, GLA, EDI, EMA and BHX and would probably do the same at BRS. Jet2holidays provides a different holiday product to what TUI offers.


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10443364)
So I doubt very much Jet2 would get the deal they want and the ability to expand like they have at BHX and STN

Neither of us are in the board room discussions of BRS but i can bet you that they are keen on having discussions with Jet2 considering their growth rate at BHX/STN and the presence they have UK wide. You cannot rule that out. Also as a business you don't really want to put most of your eggs into one basket - BRS are heavily reliant on easyJet like LBA is with Jet2. I very much think BRS will be keen on trying to attract another carrier to the airport.

Also FYI, BRS have an expansion plan to build more apron space and stands (looking at it also a new terminal maybe). Once complete a Jet2 BRS base maybe announced.


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10443364)
CWL especially won't want to lose another airline and may not want to jeopardise any relationship with Ryanair.

As said before - Ryanair offer a different product to Jet2/Jet2holidays. Side by Side they would compliment each other and stimulate market growth.

USERNAME_ 10th Apr 2019 13:23

Former Primera Air 737-800 YL-PSD flew to Dublin yesterday to become G-DRTW for Jet2.

Likewise for former Primera Air 738 OY-PSE which is due end of April.
They join YL-PSB which is now G-DRTT, and YL-PSH which is now G-DRTU.

garry8g 10th Apr 2019 15:32

Does anyone have any updates as to when the following 3 second hand B737-800 are due to join the Jet2 fleet?

Ex SunExpress D-ASXR
Ex Spicejet VT-SPF
Ex Norwegian EI-FJG

According to Jethro's, there are a further 2 second hand B737-800 due prior to summer 19. Anyone know from where yet?

Buster the Bear 10th Apr 2019 20:47

EI-FJG is still in store at Lasham. Full FlyBondi livery.

LBAflyer22 10th Apr 2019 21:05

Still no EMA GLA or EDI flights for S20? I know they took around 6 weeks to release the full S19 programme last year and this years went on earlier then the usual end of March/April months of previous years.

Slots at the respective airports? Or slots abroad in Mediterranean and around Europe? Fleet numbers not yet agreed maybe? It's common knowledge that they put aircraft EDI/GLA for the Scottish holidays before bringing south of the border for the english peak and maybe they haven't agreed this yet but i would imagine so if they've put all but these stations on sale.

sixchannel 10th Apr 2019 21:09


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10444560)
Still no EMA GLA or EDI flights for S20? I know they took around 6 weeks to release the full S19 programme last year and this years went on earlier then the usual end of March/April months of previous years.

Slots at the respective airports? Or slots abroad in Mediterranean and around Europe? Fleet numbers not yet agreed maybe? It's common knowledge that they put aircraft EDI/GLA for the Scottish holidays before bringing south of the border for the english peak and maybe they haven't agreed this yet but i would imagine so if they've put all but these stations on sale.

EMA flights/hols post April '20 also not on sale yet.

LBAflyer22 10th Apr 2019 21:13


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10444563)
EMA flights/hols post April '20 also not on sale yet.

Mentioned EMA.


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10444560)
Still no EMA GLA or EDI flights for S20? .


sixchannel 10th Apr 2019 21:24


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10444567)
Mentioned EMA.

Oops - so you did. Sorry, my bad.

castleford tiger 13th Apr 2019 07:54

It was said at the last AGM that the company was looking to place a new big order but I guess they are playing A against B.

As for TUI and TCG reporting poor number............not one Analyst has commented why. We had hot summer and a poor Lates market etc etc.

There was one other big reason ,they are both loosing market share to Jet2. You don't arrive at 3m holidays and get 66% growth in 2 years from nobody.

I have one more suggestion re future expansion it will come as TCG goes under. This is a pretty big call and I feel for those working there but it is on a cliff edge.
The one profitable part the Airline is going to have to be sold to try and reduce debt. Did anyone see yesterdays announcement? They may have breached their internal borrowing limit/covenants.

They have 1.5b in debt net. Customer pre payments keeping them alive.
The low prices and competitive market is killing them. If everyone thinks selling the crown jewels will save them they are wrong.
The business carries too many costs.
So 1 to 2 million extra customers will be available in my opinion.

Its a fast changing world out there but Jet 2 will soon be No1 and long may it continue.

The service levels are way in front of the others.
I am a shareholder by the way.

P330 13th Apr 2019 11:57

Anyone know the whereabouts of G-GDFM and FN? They donít appear to have flown in a little while.

shamrock7seal 13th Apr 2019 13:10

Sorry I don’t know.

Is there still a hold on opening new UK bases for Summer 2020?

WayneEGCC 13th Apr 2019 14:26

G-GDFM left Dublin about 3 hours ago, and has been doing some loops over the west coast of Scotland. It looks like it's heading back to Dublin now.

BHX5DME 13th Apr 2019 14:39


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10446705)
Sorry I donít know.

Is there still a hold on opening new UK bases for Summer 2020?

no plans for any new bases

Fly757X 13th Apr 2019 16:35


Originally Posted by P330 (Post 10446661)
Anyone know the whereabouts of G-GDFM and FN? They donít appear to have flown in a little while.

G-GDFM is in for work in Dublin, and FN is across in Shannon.

P330 13th Apr 2019 17:25

Thank you.

sixchannel 14th Apr 2019 10:25


Originally Posted by WayneEGCC (Post 10446749)
G-GDFM left Dublin about 3 hours ago, and has been doing some loops over the west coast of Scotland. It looks like it's heading back to Dublin now.

Yee-haw!!! Pilot - Tex Johnson??

Auxtank 14th Apr 2019 11:21


Originally Posted by WayneEGCC (Post 10446749)
G-GDFM left Dublin about 3 hours ago, and has been doing some loops over the west coast of Scotland. It looks like it's heading back to Dublin now.


In your dreams.

Or in Microsoft Flight Simulator apparently.



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