Originally Posted by azz767
(Post 10601488)
That was the point I was trying to raise. When the initial rumour was 4 A321's I assumed it would have been the 4 that TCX owned outright, but now the figure is 7 I'm thinking they may be leased.
It will be interesting to see if they're cheaper older frames (less sharklets) or whether they are newer more expensive frames (with sharklets). With Jet 2's history of 2nd hand frames you would say the former, however if they are intended as genuine 757 replacements the sharkleted ones would make more sense. |
Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10601494)
I understand it includes the 4x Airbus A321-231's G-TCVA/B/C/D (ex Monarch & Thomas Cook) machines which are currently sat in storage at Lasham.
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But would also mean that they are getting a new type with 2 engine variants? As the ex MON/TCX ones have v2500s and the rest of the ex TCX fleet are Cfms I believe. Unless the other 3 are not TCX aircraft.
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Originally Posted by azz767
(Post 10600963)
Any word on whether they will be owned or leased? |
Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
(Post 10601576)
But would also mean that they are getting a new type with 2 engine variants? As the ex MON/TCX ones have v2500s and the rest of the ex TCX fleet are Cfms I believe. Unless the other 3 are not TCX aircraft.
I guess it would be these ex monarch one on the lasham video on youtube |
Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10601494)
I understand it includes the 4x Airbus A321-231's G-TCVA/B/C/D (ex Monarch & Thomas Cook) machines which are currently sat in storage at Lasham.
far as I’m aware, it’s going to be: DD - Shannon DP - Shannon DE - Shannon DK - Shannon DB - Shannon DG - Shannon And I’m unsure of the 7th. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10601218)
HM Govt has lifted the air travel ban into and out of SSH for UK flights -
SSH was a huge market in its hey day especially in the winter, but the Egypt downturn was pivotal in Monarch's demise. Jet2 have wisely stayed well clear of Egypt and Tunisia up to now - I wonder what they are thinking?
Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
(Post 10601253)
As the cousins would say ‘Stay the hell out of Dodge City’ !! Be lucky David |
The ex Mon a/c were not owned by TCX, so are unlikely to be the ones for Jet2.
The CFM A321 in my opinion is not the best version for Jet2 because of the thrust available, which reduces range. I might however be wide of the mark. |
Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M
(Post 10601846)
The ex Mon a/c were not owned by TCX, so are unlikely to be the ones for Jet2.
The CFM A321 in my opinion is not the best version for Jet2 because of the thrust available, which reduces range. I might however be wide of the mark. |
Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M
(Post 10601846)
The ex Mon a/c were not owned by TCX, so are unlikely to be the ones for Jet2.
The CFM A321 in my opinion is not the best version for Jet2 because of the thrust available, which reduces range. I might however be wide of the mark. From my experience working on both, the Cfm is a FAR better engine. |
Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10600796)
Jet2 just put on sale winter 2020 New York flights using Airbus A330's from BHX, NCL, MAN & EMA & Boeing 757-200 from LBA
https://www.jet2.com/News/Enjoy_more..._in_Winter_20/
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Another fine example of GLA being forgotten about simply because it's in Scotland.
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Jethros shows that two G-TCV* A321's are destined for Jet2
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I believe G-GDFG has been retired? Will all the B733s be gone by the summer?
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AFAIK the 733s will still be around next summer but I don't know beyond that. You could be right about GDFG - I haven't seen it for a while. It's quite likely that CELE will call it a day this week.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10601979)
I believe G-GDFG has been retired? Will all the B733s be gone by the summer?
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Originally Posted by LBAflyer22
(Post 10601837)
I believe Jet2/Jet2holidays were weeks away from announcing SSH and HRG way back in 2015 just before Metrojet went down. The plans become shelved.
I suspect it will be on the radar within a couple of years defiantly. Year round, profitable year round (Monarch increased SSH every winter), both SSH could be served from all 9 bases, HRG most. I can see once stabilised a Jet2 presence will be good for Egypt. Yes I agree it is a strong market potential from all over the UK and many SSH holiday regulars will be booking as we speak for their dose of winter sun - Many having 2 such holidays there a year. However, all we need is one more serious event in the region and it will be ''brakes on'' again. I'm not so sure if Jet2 will dip their toes in this market despite the huge temptations for a quick £. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10602158)
Umm - sorry old chap but that region will never ''become stabilised'' in the near term, which is why Jet2 have stayed well clear - Yes the locals want us Brits back in their hotels but........
Yes I agree it is a strong market potential from all over the UK and many SSH holiday regulars will be booking as we speak for their dose of winter sun - Many having 2 such holidays there a year. However, all we need is one more serious event in the region and it will be ''brakes on'' again. I'm not so sure if Jet2 will dip their toes in this market despite the huge temptations for a quick £. It's an interesting dilemma for airlines and how they deploy capacity: do they stick to "safe" destinations such as Spain and Greece by plugging the gap left vacant by Thomas Cook knowing they will probably be successful, or do they risk a return to a destination which was popular before the travel ban was imposed but is an unknown whether that demand will return in light of this week's developments? |
Originally Posted by 116d
(Post 10602287)
It's an interesting dilemma for airlines and how they deploy capacity: do they stick to "safe" destinations such as Spain and Greece by plugging the gap left vacant by Thomas Cook knowing they will probably be successful, or do they risk a return to a destination which was popular before the travel ban was imposed but is an unknown whether that demand will return in light of this week's developments?
As you say with the opportunity to fill some or most of the TCX markets I think Jet2 will have their hands full in summer 2020. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10602158)
Umm - sorry old chap but that region will never ''become stabilised'' in the near term, which is why Jet2 have stayed well clear - Yes the locals want us Brits back in their hotels but........
Yes I agree it is a strong market potential from all over the UK and many SSH holiday regulars will be booking as we speak for their dose of winter sun - Many having 2 such holidays there a year. However, all we need is one more serious event in the region and it will be ''brakes on'' again. I'm not so sure if Jet2 will dip their toes in this market despite the huge temptations for a quick £. Jet2 so close to announcing it back in 2015 i suspect it may come up on the radar relatively soon. Maybe within a couple of years. Maybe not at all. It's a way of utilising the aircraft, especially in Winter, and filling them. The markets no longer have Monarch or Thomas Cook. So Jet2 no longer have as stiff competition as they would have from Monarch and Thomas cook. They've also changed from 2015 - they have BHX and STN as bases. Cover most of the country. I understand it is one of those - if something happens breaks quickly get applied - but Jet2 are always quick to respond as they did when Turkey declined a couple of years ago. Who knows we will see. |
Just don’t forget that Jet2 used to fly to Sharm before, so comments about them not entering this market due to instability are somewhat misplaced. The link below is from their own website Flights to Sharm now on Sale |
I'm sure Jet2 use to operate Sharm el Sheikh from not just Manchester but also Leeds/Bradford, East Midlands and Newcastle using the Boeing 757-200's
I wonder if they may also look at Tunisia again? |
You are correct, I remember Sharm el Sheikh appearing in the Newcastle timetable.
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61 birds in the air mid week October that's not bad
tiger |
Originally Posted by castleford tiger
(Post 10602546)
61 birds in the air mid week October that's not bad
tiger |
Originally Posted by Downwind_Left
(Post 10602378)
Just don’t forget that Jet2 used to fly to Sharm before, so comments about them not entering this market due to instability are somewhat misplaced. The link below is from their own website A lot has happened since then. |
That WAS 20 years ago |
Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants
(Post 10602861)
Jet2.com didn’t even exist 20 years ago. My bad |
Originally Posted by Garstag
(Post 10602564)
it was more like 72 today
How many flights did they operate in the day... if it was just 144 then thats not good |
Pretty good for end of season
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Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman
(Post 10602962)
How many flights did they operate in the day... if it was just 144 then thats not good
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Originally Posted by Mooncrest
(Post 10602100)
AFAIK the 733s will still be around next summer but I don't know beyond that. You could be right about GDFG - I haven't seen it for a while. It's quite likely that CELE will call it a day this week.
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Originally Posted by jonnyrobbo
(Post 10603228)
According to Jethro's G-CELE was withdrawn from use on Wednesday 23rd and is due at St Athan today!
GCELE will now go to DGX on Monday. (TBC) apparently GLSAG still due to be WFU in and around the 3rd week of November. AH and AI have been postponed but AG still to be scrapped. |
Take it that it was due a major check so not worth the effort/money
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STN
Are there any expansions in the pipeline for the Jet2 STN base? Also, do Jet2 use jet bridges at Stansted as they do in other airports?
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Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 10603995)
Are there any expansions in the pipeline for the Jet2 STN base? Also, do Jet2 use jet bridges at Stansted as they do in other airports?
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Jet2 has bought 7 A321 from Thomas Cook. 3 of them will be based at BHX and the remaining 4 on MAN. Flight crew (technical and cabin crew) from BHX and MAN are going to he trained on A321. |
Originally Posted by Rpm25
(Post 10604570)
Jet2 has bought 7 A321 from Thomas Cook. 3 of them will be based at BHX and the remaining 4 on MAN. Flight crew (technical and cabin crew) from BHX and MAN are going to he trained on A321. Anyway, as a new member can I welcome you to the forum Rpm25. |
Originally Posted by Scottie Dog
(Post 10604613)
This was already mentioned in post #1750 on 22nd October and discussed subsequently. Better though to post twice than not at all.
Anyway, as a new member can I welcome you to the forum Rpm25. |
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