I think people are getting far too excited. There was over capacity, too many holidays on very thin weak margins, at a time of reduced demand - Brexit, weakening pound etc. Why would anyone take risks ? Far better to increase yields and consolidate. Jet2 are the best at what they do, there is no need for them to do anything other than continue their modest growth. Replacing older frames when the opportunity arises, leasing in peak time capacity without the risks. I expect anything not Boeing will be leased in. When the MAX gets back into service, there will be a glut of used 738s on the market- I think J2 will just wait.

That makes far more economic sense to me. Tighten up the market, raise prices and repair the roof while the sun is shining.

Hopefully any price hike would be sufficient to cover loss of Revenue from the percentage of Customers it put outside of their Affordability window.
Maybe even -
14 days (now a bit less common I think) down to 11?
11 days down to 10 or even 7.
7 days down to ' Ah well, it was nice whilst we could afford it'.
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This article, relating to the collapse of Thomas Cook perhaps suggests that foreign holidays are too affordable at the moment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49961188

Daz
Thanks for this. I understand the TCG 5 ex lease or not is pretty much confirmed.
As for other points of discussion DART may kick the can down the road re new orders and have two years paying down debt. Not a bad idea if we can stretch the fleet out with a mixture of purchases and leases .

Last couple of days we seem to have been using 50 aircraft is there an easy way to see how many flights we are doing each day?

This 'single parent' with "no money' took a holiday in excess of 2 weeks in Tunisia otherwise she would have been repatriated.
Where was the 'child' all this time? Where did the money come from to pay for her Accomodation (it can't have been a TC holiday) and flights in the first place?
Now she's crying to the so-called'News’
Sympathy have I none.

Living life as a single parent on Universal Credit must involve a level of stress which I have never had to endure. Perhaps her parents offered to look after the child for a couple of weeks to give her a break? We don't know the whole story. However someone should have told to come back early on a repatriation flight.

During half term there are 14 aircraft based at BHX - more than the summer peak!

My point was that financial advisors always say that you should try and have a buffer of 3 months cash in hand in case of unforeseen emergencies, redundancy etc. Spending that buffer, or whatever buffer you have, on something as frivolous as a holiday abroad is profligate to say the least.

By the way I say that as a parent of offspring who did exactly that!

You're not wrong. However, to not replace some (that's the keyword here, not all) of the capacity that has been lost would be a potential opportunity missed and I don't think anybody was calling for Jet2 to precisely match lost capacity. How that's achieved is open for debate.

The remaining competitors also need to be careful not to hike up prices too much as that's got the potential to significantly weaken demand. It's about getting the balance right between profitability, meeting demand and anticipating potential economic headwinds that could affect either/both of these. The strength of GBP is another factor.

As for the MAX, even if a fix was found tomorrow the regulators worldwide will take their time before approving them safe to fly and that will affect which airlines can fly them again and where they can fly them to. It would take several weeks/months for all of them to fly again, especially the ones stored since March that would probably need more than the mods to make them airworthy again, especially the longer they're stored. I imagine there will be some training/re-training required given the length of time that's passed. It must be getting to the point now for MAX operators where for 2020 they have to make a call whether to build them into their fleet plans or not.

Indeed. Although I was aghast to learn that she had no travel insurance.

G-DRTI - again
 

Flew Serviceability flight today - EMA - MAN via Ireland and west.
Presume in its full Jet2 silver/red glory.
Looks like it included some low speed handling tests.
First Revenue flight soon??

it is , Jet2Izmir on the nose.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6a151b7571.jpg

Compare that to post 1542.!
Amazing what a couple of cans of Holts Duplicolour can do. :O

Rags to Riches :E

Noticed this on Airborne Colours Ltd FB page;

Wonder when the next one is due? Is it current aircraft in the fleet getting repainted or new one?

Now THAT is a very interesting question.

I noticed this aswell.

Perhaps as soon as the end of the week.

I wonder if its first Pax will wonder if all Jet2 planes smell of fresh paint?

Life is full of choices and some are drawn to keep making bad ones. We all have family/relatives some who fall into this trap.

The best we had was whilst filming with a BBC crew at a food bank (to which we were regular suppliers of fresh produce) I got into conversation with two very attractive ladies late 20`s early 30`s and enquired why they needed the support of the food bank.
No chance of work as the kids were at school only 6 hours and of course holidays were a problem.
I asked if they would be interested in "term time only work and 9 till 3"
Both dived into their bags for the phones to take my number..............unbelievably both had top of the range mobiles/tablets in which they recorded my number. Neither got in touch but we did, and still do employ 2 young mums on a term time only contract.
I live in an area not associated with its wealth, and many food banks do a roaring trade. However its rare to see a house without Sky/cable tv.
I am afraid a great number of people have the wrong priorities.

Strange... according to photos it did have the sun back in 2017. Surprised they haven't gotten round to painting it back on.

Maybe deciding 'which' Sunrise' to put on?

This could be significant for Jet2, as they sell JET2 holidays in their Hays Travel stores:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49985369

they got sick of ground incidents so decided to go over the top with markings, visually not appealing but if it stops an expensive incident then who cares.

Think you are refering to GDFD that had a a flat yellow sun ? Was replaced in the summer.

I have seen a lot of people recently speculate about whether Jet2 will move into the long haul market and had saw some points mentioned but I also thought of another which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere and I wondered what peoples views on it are.

This issue being going long haul at the moment with an all economy fleet. TUI and TCX (for which long haul was profitable) both have/had decent sized premium cabins on their long haul fleet this summer and the A330's Jet 2 operate are all economy at present (and correct me if im wrong but I believe they have to stay this way in case they are needed urgently for military use). Even the Norwegians of this world offer some sort of premium product which I think is a lot more essential on long haul routes.

TCX had this issue themselves when they had two Air Tanker frames doing routes like JFK, BOS and SEA and the lack of any sort of premium offering will have cost them going up against the likes of VS and the American trio. Looking at Florida and the Caribbean and even Vegas which is likely where Jet2 would start wouldn't this also be the case.

A move into long haul for Jet2 is a lot more than just 'they now have the aircraft to do it' and 'there is an opportunity left after TCX went', lets not forget Jet2 is actually a scheduled airline first and has the holidays division buy seats on flights, so they need to have a product that if they went long haul would entice flight only customers to them not just the holidays people.

Up to 2017 we flew both Virgin and TCX Manchester to Florida (Orlando & Sanford).
Always turned right at the door. Never had a problem.
Never even considered going Premium or Premium Economy.
Surely those who feel the need to be cosseted at all times, should ho Virgin and pay 'silly money' for that privilege and let Jet2 (if they decide to go for it) fly contented, if a mite uncomfy after 8hrs, passengers with their customary efficiency and happy smiles.
FWIW - It was our dreadful experience on our last MAN-MCO Virgin flight that made us give up the Long Hauls. We now settle for Half Long Haul now - 4hrs to the Canaries twice a year. :)

TUI have been quick to add capacity and probably with ex-TCX A321s. But doubtless JET2 are not far behind in adding capacity with TCX pilots and aircraft as well.
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...-million-seats

Considering the opportunity offered, JET2 only need to open bases at BRS and LGW for nationwide cover.

do not know the answer but I guess part time roles will be there.
Tends to be a morning rush 4/9 and then again as the planes return and reload in the afternoons with fewer staff to meet the late flights home. I GUESS>

Bournemouth is Jet2's spiritual home (Channel Express) but Jet2 say they have no plans to have a base there yet.

TCK /MT had based a/c at both EXT and BRS, but it seems Jet2 again have no wish to take on TUI and FR (plus EZY at BRS) head to head at any of these 3 locations. (and CWL?)

STN was a perhaps big gamble that has paid off well in the South for Jet2, and no doubt they will take up the slack from the lost TCK/MT ''bread and butter'' ops from there -

But Jet2 (very wisely) have NO wish to enter back into Egypt nor Tunisia as security events make the operations too unstable -

God forbid we add Turkey in the mix if the current hostilities escalate, and spill over into the Eastern MED region and that will again seriously hurt the industry.

As for long haul - Jet2 could take up the Cruise ship charter work which TCK had (to the Caribbean etc) they have the 330's for that.
Jet2 have also some ££ advantage in not buying the 737MAX - had they done so then they would have been seriously hurt with paying for ACMI work and cancelled flights. However, used 737NG are simply not now available for more Boeing expansion.

Profit upgrade this morning.........
If I were to break into the "over the pond" market it would be our quiet time ,from early November to Easter and cover mainly Mexico and the carabean.

Clearly need the right aircraft.
That said the cost of setting operations up would not add to the bottom line.