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LiamNCL 11th Oct 2019 07:47

TCX didnt have a based Aircraft at EXT

chaps1954 11th Oct 2019 08:03

I really can`t see Jet2 doing Caribbean or Mexico in near future, the A330s are very busy in summer and looks like this winter too on European IT and a few JFK
over Nov/Dec and I believe they may be getting the 3rd Tanker one also

garry8g 11th Oct 2019 08:55


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10591766)
I really can`t see Jet2 doing Caribbean or Mexico in near future, the A330s are very busy in summer and looks like this winter too on European IT and a few JFK
over Nov/Dec and I believe they may be getting the 3rd Tanker one also

Unless they lease (or buy) a few more A330s....there are a few lying around at the moment. And available personnel to crew them.

Plane.Silly 11th Oct 2019 09:43


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10591766)
I really can`t see Jet2 doing Caribbean or Mexico in near future, the A330s are very busy in summer and looks like this winter too on European IT and a few JFK
over Nov/Dec and I believe they may be getting the 3rd Tanker one also

Jet2 fly to EWR, not JFK, but we get the idea :)

DjerbaDevil 11th Oct 2019 10:19


Originally Posted by castleford tiger (Post 10591721)
Profit upgrade this morning.........
If I were to break into the "over the pond" market it would be our quiet time ,from early November to Easter and cover mainly Mexico and the carabean.

Clearly need the right aircraft.
That said the cost of setting operations up would not add to the bottom line.

Agreed, long haul is expensive to set up and to maintain a good level of service. The ideal situation is to increase the short haul business with extra aircraft from the TCX fleet, say something between 10 and 20 Airbus 321s with ex-TCX pilots and engineers. Also it is screaming out they should take the opportunity of expansion of bases at LGW and BRS. STN has been a great success and further expansion there has been, almost certainly, due to a lack of aircraft. With the extra aircraft from TCX, JET2 would also make a success of LGW. No bets but will hold my breath for an announcement next week.

rog747 11th Oct 2019 10:24

I think Jet2 would do well from EXT and BRS
As for LGW they might be wise to stick to their core values for now and not sleep with that beast.

Long Haul - ? Well they have their toes in the water with EWR -
The Caribbean cruise ship flights now have to be covered - who is or will be doing them?

sixchannel 11th Oct 2019 10:25


Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 10591796)
Unless they lease (or buy) a few more A330s....there are a few lying around at the moment. And available personnel to crew them.

Inc that 19yo TCX A330 at MAN, allegedly about to be broken up unless someone pays the cost of its uncompleted maintenance.?

garry8g 11th Oct 2019 10:29

It has been reported that Titan are getting an A330-200 for summer 2020 (arriving April 2020).

I wonder if we may see that flying for Jet2 next summer?

LiamNCL 11th Oct 2019 15:12

Cant see Jet2 entering Bristol when theres alot of TCX losses at their current bases.

rog747 11th Oct 2019 15:13

TCX EXT
 

Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10591752)
TCX didn't have a based Aircraft at EXT

Methinks that was a long while back now - apologies, you are correct

Mr A Tis 11th Oct 2019 15:22

B738NG cracks : https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...m_medium=email

Any impacts on the J2 fleet reported anywhere?

nowhereasfiled 11th Oct 2019 18:28

Anybody able to enlighten me as to how true or false the galley fm rumours are that Jet2 will be using 330s (Air Tanker I guess) to operate to Cuba and/or Florida this coming summer???

Ivan aromer 12th Oct 2019 07:47

Share price doing well; keep it up team!

SJL26779 12th Oct 2019 08:02

If I remember correctly Air Tanker can't operate flights to Cuba. TCX were unable to use these air frames on their flights to Cuba. Something to do with the military connection I believe and radar equipment.

chaps1954 12th Oct 2019 09:24

G-DRTI has just done a test flight from Manchester this morning

jonnyrobbo 12th Oct 2019 23:39


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10592544)
G-DRTI has just done a test flight from Manchester this morning

Looks like another 2 further flights were also done.

nowhereasfiled 13th Oct 2019 10:44


Originally Posted by jonnyrobbo (Post 10593020)

Looks like another 2 further flights were also done.

Yeah a friend of mine up there told me the first was a check flight and the last 2 were “shakedowns” at the CAAs request

CabinCrewe 13th Oct 2019 11:14


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10593291)


Yeah a friend of mine up there told me the first was a check flight and the last 2 were “shakedowns” at the CAAs request

Interesting this frame was originally ordered by Delta but not taken up. Seems to have been mostly with Jet Airways for past 15 years.

sixchannel 13th Oct 2019 16:03


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10593324)

Interesting this frame was originally ordered by Delta but not taken up. Seems to have been mostly with Jet Airways for past 15 years.

And probably not that well well looked after, judging by the time it took to get it straight, and the number of new exterior panels prior to paint.
The last flight looks like just a ground 'hot soak'. No FR24 actual flight recorded.

ROC10 13th Oct 2019 23:20


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10593473)
And probably not that well well looked after, judging by the time it took to get it straight, and the number of new exterior panels prior to paint.
The last flight looks like just a ground 'hot soak'. No FR24 actual flight recorded.

FR24 flights recorded for all three flights on the 12th, all heading north from MAN and back again, in excess of 1 hour each. As indicated above, one was a check flight, followed by two “shakedowns”.

Plane.Silly 14th Oct 2019 06:34


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10592222)
Anybody able to enlighten me as to how true or false the galley fm rumours are that Jet2 will be using 330s (Air Tanker I guess) to operate to Cuba and/or Florida this coming summer???

100% FALSE.
Jet2 have stated there is no intention of starting long haul, due to the complexity and cost of doing so


If I remember correctly Air Tanker can't operate flights to Cuba. TCX were unable to use these air frames on their flights to Cuba. Something to do with the military connection I believe and radar equipment.
This is the exact same reason why they can't fly into Cyprus on the A330

CEJM 14th Oct 2019 07:05


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10593473)
And probably not that well well looked after, judging by the time it took to get it straight, and the number of new exterior panels prior to paint..

It doesn’t necessarily mean that the aircraft hasn’t been looked after properly. If not all the paperwork comes with the aircraft then some repairs will have to be redone. Looking at the patchwork on the fuselage of this aircraft then it looks like every skin repair has been redone.

I know of a few cases in the UK were the paperwork regarding skin repairs was incorrect/missing and the leasing company required every skin repair to be redone. Redoing the work is the only way they can assure that is done in accordance with the Structural Repair Manual.

Mr @ Spotty M 14th Oct 2019 08:44

Good point CEJM, end of lease requirements are very complex and expensive, especially if you have failed operators in the mix.

pholling 14th Oct 2019 14:16


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10593324)

Interesting this frame was originally ordered by Delta but not taken up. Seems to have been mostly with Jet Airways for past 15 years.

There were a fair number of 737-800s ordered by Delta that were sold on before delivery. DL got a spanking deal in the 1990s, but could not afford delivery/did not need them in the early mid 2000s.

jonnyrobbo 15th Oct 2019 13:43

Looks like G-DRTI had her first revenue flight today, flying MAN - ALC. Currently on her way back!

Facts R Us 15th Oct 2019 18:46

I wonder what Reg sequence the A321’s will use when they enter service in Summer 2020?

sixchannel 15th Oct 2019 19:51


Originally Posted by Facts R Us (Post 10595135)
I wonder what Reg sequence the A321’s will use when they enter service in Summer 2020?

What A321's?
If they're Renters eg Smartwings YL-LCV , they'd surely retain Owners Reg.
But why do you believe Jet2 are in the market for any?

2Para 15th Oct 2019 20:04

Ladies and gents, got a LS flight at the weekend, they have a real weapon of a planned flight, it will take some operator to match them at the minute. For a LC operation its well oiled and really good at the minute.

LBAflyer22 15th Oct 2019 20:14


Originally Posted by Facts R Us (Post 10595135)
I wonder what Reg sequence the A321’s will use when they enter service in Summer 2020?

Pardon? I take it by this your implying A321s are going to Jet2.

flybar 15th Oct 2019 20:47


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10595208)
Pardon? I take it by this your implying A321s are going to Jet2.

They are certainly going to struggle to find some more second hand 737-800's given the current 787 problems

LBAflyer22 15th Oct 2019 20:52


Originally Posted by flybar (Post 10595227)
They are certainly going to struggle to find some more second hand 737-800's given the current 787 problems

I'm just saying have you got any evidence to back up your statement. And 737-800's assisting with the 787 engine problems ;)

flybar 15th Oct 2019 21:07


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10595232)
I'm just saying have you got any evidence to back up your statement. And 737-800's assisting with the 787 engine problems ;)

It is not my statement regarding the A321 deliveries.
But it is evident that airlines who were going to release 737-800's once they got 787's are not in a position to do so it is feasible that jet2 are looking at Airbus products

Yeehaw22 15th Oct 2019 21:21

Also heard through the leasing grapevine at least 5 ex tcx 321's have been taken up by J2.

nowhereasfiled 15th Oct 2019 22:14

Apparently Jet2 are operating a handful of flights to Barbados this winter using AirTanker on behalf of P&O cruises

USERNAME_ 15th Oct 2019 22:19


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10595291)
Apparently Jet2 are operating a handful of flights to Barbados this winter using AirTanker on behalf of P&O cruises

A nice break for the Jet2 crew who’ve had to put up with Antalya and Dalaman all summer

irishlad06 16th Oct 2019 00:14


Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10595252)
Also heard through the leasing grapevine at least 5 ex tcx 321's have been taken up by J2.

true - to be announced today. Owned by Jet2 - based at MAN. 4 is what I have heard.

azz767 16th Oct 2019 08:46


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10595345)


true - to be announced today. Owned by Jet2 - based at MAN. 4 is what I have heard.

You would assume then that these would be 4 of the ones owned outright by TCX, as AFAIK the majority of the A321 fleet was leased from various lessors.

LBIA 16th Oct 2019 13:55

Not an Airbus A321 aircraft announcement, But Jet2 have just put on sale another new Greek destination of Skiathos for summer 2020 along more flights added from Leeds/Bradford.

Flights to Skiathos start in May and will operate as follows
Birmingham = 1x weekly (Wed)
Manchester = 2x weekly (Wed & Sun)
London Stansted = 2x weekly (Wed & Sat)

Extra flights from Leeds/Bradford for summer 2020
Mahon = Increased 5x to 6x weekly
Arrecife = Increased 6x to 7x weekly
Las Palmas = Increased 4x to 5x weekly
Fuerteventura = Increased 3x to 4x weekly
Tenerife = Increased 8x to 9x weekly
Dalaman = Increased 6x to 7x weekly
Antalya = Increased 7x to 8x Weekly

GAZMO 16th Oct 2019 14:32

Great news. Does anyone know if BFS will get any extra flights in summer 2020?

nwoody2001 16th Oct 2019 15:03

Similarly major new growth announced at BHX with 2x new routes and 17x new weekly flights (an additional based aircraft???). This is in addition to the previously announced Summer'20 schedule.

New Routes
BCN: 2x weekly
JSI: 1x weekly

Route Increases
AYT: 8 x weekly (+2 x weekly added)
DLM: 8 x weekly (+2 x weekly added)
FUE: 4 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)
LPA: 5 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)
KGS: 3 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)
ACE: 8 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)
LCA: 5 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)
MLA: 2 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)
MAH: 5 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)
TFS: 12 x weekly (+2 x weekly added)
ZTH: 4 x weekly (+1 x weekly added)

In total, Summer'20 currently consists of 47 routes, 192 x weekly flights and nearly 72,600 weekly seats. This is an increase of 26 x weekly flights and nearly 10,000 weekly seats (+15.6%) on Summer'19. These extra 10,000 seats will be welcome to help plug the 26,000 seat gap lost by TCX however....


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