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rog747 2nd Nov 2019 07:58

TFS bus crash lawsuit
 

Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10608834)
It's clearly an airport issue - it's irrelevant which a/c the pax got off (which was how I read ATNotts original point).

Mark Gibson, partner at law firm Digby Brown, confirmed the legal action for all 33 tourists was successfully ended this week.

He said: “This was a very complex case due to the number of people affected as well as the need to liaise with foreign authorities.

“However, I can confirm all 33 cases are now concluded.
“Our clients should have been enjoying their holiday and instead they were left with injuries.

A Jet2 spokesman said: “Although we were not responsible for the accident, which took place between two vehicles driven by airport staff, we do of course acknowledge the distress that it must have caused. We now consider this matter closed.”

I guess the lawyers would have class auctioned the TFS airport authority, the airlines' handling agent (and who drove the buses) and likely Jet2 also as the pax were in their care...
May have been a joint liability settlement.

anyway case closed now

ATNotts 2nd Nov 2019 08:48


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10608834)
It's clearly an airport issue - it's irrelevant which a/c the pax got off (which was how I read ATNotts original point).

I actually interpreted it as the issue being on the transfer between resort and airport, which is why I considered it totally irrelevant to Jet2 (the airline). That of course was an incorrect assumption.

rog747 2nd Nov 2019 13:58


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 10608868)
I actually interpreted it as the issue being on the transfer between resort and airport, which is why I considered it totally irrelevant to Jet2 (the airline). That of course was an incorrect assumption.

Ah, I see - Well yes seems it was a tarmac prang with buses to/from the plane to the Terminal...I never heard about it until now.

Brigantee 3rd Nov 2019 12:51

vWill Jet 2 be the Evelop 330 again next year ? Seems to be a nice aircraft .

chaps1954 3rd Nov 2019 13:11

Thought they were getting the other Air Tanker machine to be based at Manchester

Brigantee 3rd Nov 2019 13:20

Talking to a jet 2. bod he said they may have up to 4 x 330 aircraft next year!

nowhereasfiled 3rd Nov 2019 21:48

Looks like LSAG had a fun night.

been circling off the coast of TFS for about 2 hours now. Not got any higher than 7000ft

ROC10 3rd Nov 2019 22:50


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10610142)
Looks like LSAG had a fun night.

been circling off the coast of TFS for about 2 hours now. Not got any higher than 7000ft

Wow that does not look good...

FR24 seems to suggest this was a revenue flight. Perhaps a (not too serious) problem was detected after take off and this was a fuel-burning exercise before returning to TFS? They must’ve been dizzy after that!

rog747 4th Nov 2019 05:51

Simple answer - No fuel dump on the 757 however IIRC it was certified to land back at Max Take-off Weight and therefore has no need for fuel dump facilities.

A320 family - ditto.

Ivan aromer 4th Nov 2019 16:09

You are quite correct: no dump in the 75. Also the 75, as are most aircraft, certified to land at Max TOW. However it would require an overweight land check. So why no burn down to landing weight? Better still IMO, no knowing the facts, steam North and land in Malaga. Closer to Blighty, easier repat if bad tech problem?

BFS BHD 4th Nov 2019 16:31

Going by Jethro's website the first two A321 will be ex TCX G-TCVC & G-TCVD which are at Lasham.

azz767 4th Nov 2019 17:46


Originally Posted by BFS BHD (Post 10610687)
Going by Jethro's website the first two A321 will be ex TCX G-TCVC & G-TCVD which are at Lasham.

you would then assume VA and VB would follow

Jonty 4th Nov 2019 18:20


Originally Posted by Ivan aromer (Post 10610674)
You are quite correct: no dump in the 75. Also the 75, as are most aircraft, certified to land at Max TOW. However it would require an overweight land check. So why no burn down to landing weight? Better still IMO, no knowing the facts, steam North and land in Malaga. Closer to Blighty, easier repat if bad tech problem?

That would be a decision made in conjunction with operations and maintenance. There may be a reason they wanted it to stay in TFS.

Mooncrest 4th Nov 2019 18:24

It's quite likely the ex-Thomas Cook aircraft will be re-registered before they enter service with Jet2. Possible sequence could be JZA*, if it hasn't already been allocated.

Ironside0 4th Nov 2019 18:55


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10610172)


Wow that does not look good...

FR24 seems to suggest this was a revenue flight. Perhaps a (not too serious) problem was detected after take off and this was a fuel-burning exercise before returning to TFS? They must’ve been dizzy after that!

G-LSAA just landed at Leeds with Pax,G-LSAG still on ground in TFS,everyone put up in hotels overnight.

garry8g 4th Nov 2019 19:50


Originally Posted by Mooncrest (Post 10610756)
It's quite likely the ex-Thomas Cook aircraft will be re-registered before they enter service with Jet2. Possible sequence could be JZA*, if it hasn't already been allocated.

They WILL be re-registered when they move to Jet2, as are most aircraft when they move to other operators.

Mr @ Spotty M 4th Nov 2019 20:31

If the first two listed A321 are correct then it will be a surprise as it will mean A321's with a mix of both V2500 & CFM engines, if they are going to all come from TCX.
Jethro's is an excellent web site, which l have submitted info to over the years, but remember it is only as good as the info he is given, very difficult for him to know 100% if that info is correct.

nowhereasfiled 4th Nov 2019 20:52

None of the ex-ZB Airbuses are going to Jet2.

The first 6 are TCDD, DP, DE, DK, DB, DG all from storage Shannon.

garry8g 4th Nov 2019 21:24


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10610863)
None of the ex-ZB Airbuses are going to Jet2.

The first 6 are TCDD, DP, DE, DK, DB, DG all from storage Shannon.

DE is in Lake City, Florida, so it won't be that one. So it could be the other 5 plus the 2 ex-ZB A321's. (If you say they are not going to Jet2, what's your source?)

Plane.Silly 5th Nov 2019 06:44


Originally Posted by Mooncrest (Post 10610756)
It's quite likely the ex-Thomas Cook aircraft will be re-registered before they enter service with Jet2. Possible sequence could be JZA*, if it hasn't already been allocated.

Agree with the G-JZ part, but the A* range has already been taken up with the G-LSA* range, Can imagine from an ops and maintenance perspective have two different aircraft called Alpha Alpha would be confusing

Plenty of others to choose from though. Jet2 owned reg's currently start with A, B, F, H, L and T
W is also out, as they lease these from Titan
That leaves upto 19 different options

Jonty 5th Nov 2019 07:01


Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 10610888)
DE is in Lake City, Florida, so it won't be that one. So it could be the other 5 plus the 2 ex-ZB A321's. (If you say they are not going to Jet2, what's your source?)

It could of course be flown back.
I think it’s out there for repainting.

stonejo 5th Nov 2019 07:17

With TUI announcing that they are going to fly into Melbourne (MLB) in Florida rather than Sanford from 2022 would this have any bearing if Jet2 decided to start to fly to MCO?

ATNotts 5th Nov 2019 07:24


Originally Posted by stonejo (Post 10611120)
With TUI announcing that they are going to fly into Melbourne (MLB) in Florida rather than Sanford from 2022 would this have any bearing if Jet2 decided to start to fly to MCO?

Haven't insiders at Jet2 on this forum said numerous times that Jet2 have no interest in operating in that market?

toledoashley 5th Nov 2019 07:57


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 10611125)
Haven't insiders at Jet2 on this forum said numerous times that Jet2 have no interest in operating in that market?

I think its more likely that the announcement of Gold Medal/Travel2 doing their own charters would fit the Orlando market better.

rog747 5th Nov 2019 08:01

MLB v SFB/MCO
 

Originally Posted by stonejo (Post 10611120)
With TUI announcing that they are going to fly into Melbourne (MLB) in Florida rather than Sanford from 2022 would this have any bearing if Jet2 decided to start to fly to MCO?

Most UK and German charter airlines started to switched to SFB from MCO around 20 years ago -
UK airlines were offered greatly reduced landing fees at Sanford, and therefore many carriers relocated their operations.

Virgin and BA stayed put at MCO
I gather was it Thomas Cook who went back to MCO in recent years.

TUI's latest move is to tie-in with their large cruise ship operation, with the MLB airport nearer Port Canaveral

If Jet2 ventures to Florida my guess is they will fly to SFB or MCO

Scottie Dog 5th Nov 2019 08:08

You're correct. Thomas Cook operated into Orlando.

garry8g 5th Nov 2019 08:21


Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 10611101)


It could of course be flown back.
I think it’s out there for repainting.

Rather a long way to go, just for a paint job!!

LiamNCL 5th Nov 2019 08:56


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10611086)
Agree with the G-JZ part, but the A* range has already been taken up with the G-LSA* range, Can imagine from an ops and maintenance perspective have two different aircraft called Alpha Alpha would be confusing

Plenty of others to choose from though. Jet2 owned reg's currently start with A, B, F, H, L and T
W is also out, as they lease these from Titan
That leaves upto 19 different options

Probably a reg like JZDA or something

Mr @ Spotty M 5th Nov 2019 09:06

Jet 2 will not require these aircraft until the 2020 summer season, with a limited number prior to that for crew training.
I would not put any mind to where these aircraft might be heading.
They will need to go into storage, ideal climate not being in England or Ireland.
Prior to delivery all 7 aircraft will require a heavy maintenance check to clear them for 24 months (what was a "C" check), as is the norm and a paint job.
This can be anywhere in the world and is a lot cheaper outside of the UK.

pamann 5th Nov 2019 09:24


Originally Posted by toledoashley (Post 10611148)
I think its more likely that the announcement of Gold Medal/Travel2 doing their own charters would fit the Orlando market better.

Do you have a link to this announcement? I can’t find anything on line about it?

toledoashley 5th Nov 2019 09:27


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10611206)


Do you have a link to this announcement? I can’t find anything on line about it?

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...ying-programme

Jonty 5th Nov 2019 09:32


Originally Posted by toledoashley (Post 10611211)

I wonder if they are thinking new start up or existing capacity? Because existing capacity has drastically reduced given TCX leaving the market.

stonejo 5th Nov 2019 10:38


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 10611125)
Haven't insiders at Jet2 on this forum said numerous times that Jet2 have no interest in operating in that market?

I think people might be surprised....

pamann 5th Nov 2019 11:11


Originally Posted by toledoashley (Post 10611211)

Thanks. I’d read your original post as if specific to them operating Orlando charters. Interesting times ahead. There’s a lot of money behind the Dnata group.

As for Jet2 possible long haul, there’s some big gaps in the market that would fit the Jet2 demographic very well. Orlando/Sanford, Puerto Plata, Varadero, Holguin and Cayo Coco spring to mind.

wowzz 5th Nov 2019 14:00

Cabin crew on our recent Jet2 flight out of BHX confidently told me that flights to Orlando would be starting in 2020.
I appreciate that this is far from an official announcement, but it would appear that the rumours may be true.

GCELY 5th Nov 2019 14:03


Originally Posted by wowzz (Post 10611395)
Cabin crew on our recent Jet2 flight out of BHX confidently told me that flights to Orlando would be starting in 2020.
I appreciate that this is far from an official announcement, but it would appear that the rumours may be true.

IF this is true, I don’t see that crew would know it before even the duty managers, let alone further up the chain. It may be true, but definitely wouldn’t take crews word for it.

Scottie Dog 5th Nov 2019 14:37


Originally Posted by wowzz (Post 10611395)
Cabin crew on our recent Jet2 flight out of BHX confidently told me that flights to Orlando would be starting in 2020.
I appreciate that this is far from an official announcement, but it would appear that the rumours may be true.

So much for confidentially!!

pamann 5th Nov 2019 14:52


Originally Posted by Scottie Dog (Post 10611426)
So much for confidentially!!

Scottie Dog in all fairness confidently and confidentially are two different words with two different meanings.

VickersVicount 5th Nov 2019 18:31

Mmm... its not gone that well for other's who tried long haul charter leisure...
(Monarch, Excel, Excalibur etc)
Why do they just not stick to what they seem to do very well... good product short haul.
The logistics and costs with long haul are in different league.

irishlad06 5th Nov 2019 18:55

Jet2 have no interest in starting long haul. They know their market and what works for them and have enough going on next year with the a321 project.

in other news GDRTR is on its way from CTU via Astana and then MAN arriving in the morning.


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