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ford cortina 28th Jul 2020 09:18

Regardless of this, Package Holidays are integral to the survival of Jet2. I feel they waited a bit long here to react, TUI canceled theirs immediately.
This does not bode well for the Holiday Charter Industry at all, people will start to look at Staycations, they will not want to travel if there is a risk their holiday could be canceled at the last minute. Jet2 could well find the future tough, I imagine this could see the end of the 757's, the 733's and the A320, it may well be time to cut your cloth accordingly. Which of course means more of our colleagues being made redundant, this is not good news at all for any of us.

Big Tudor 28th Jul 2020 12:48


Originally Posted by 40i (Post 10845779)
easyJet- what a mess. Not worth mentioning yet.

Ryanair- no redundancies 20% pay cut for all pilots and kept the head count

Lufthansa, SAS, Emirates ect. Completely different market.

TUI saw sense and realised that IATA predict the Short haul market will back back to pre Covid levels by mid summer 21. Keep the headcount and keep their market share. Enough reading for you?

No, not sufficient reading at all. Your first post (only your 2nd ever on Pprune) said Jet 2 "......seem to be the only airline reducing their head count", which is patently untrue. Ryanair are continual talking of base closures, which will be delivered with redundancies. You then offer a flimsy comment in order to remove EasyJet from your argument, and then adopt the same casual approach to discounting all other airlines. If TUI genuinely believe that short haul traffic will be back to pre-Covid levels by next summer then that is a huge gamble IMHO, as events over this weekend have shown. And a large part of TUI operations is long-haul. Even if short haul markets recover, there will be a huge drain to cover the losses in the long haul sector.

Which leaves your original post as "Jet2 are the only airline in the UK called Jet2 who are reducing headcount." It would seem your main point is to somehow paint TUI in a positive light for whole scale salary reductions and to cast aspersions on Jet2. :hmm:

Mr A Tis 28th Jul 2020 14:12

15-20 years ago BMI Baby operated frequent full 737 flights to Newquay from the north. Is there not a market to re-introduce seasonal flights to places like Newquay / Southend / Exeter for people from Manchester / Leeds/ and all points north? Equally there may be people in the south who would like to retreat to picturesque spots in Scotland- without the long drive.
Whilst maybe not a goldmine- maybe it would at least keep aircraft & crew ticking over? The Covid crisis is not going to be over anytime soon, until they get a system like airport routine testing & proper track and trace, alternative markets might help survivability ?

inOban 28th Jul 2020 15:30


Originally Posted by Mr A Tis (Post 10848143)
15-20 years ago BMI Baby operated frequent full 737 flights to Newquay from the north. Is there not a market to re-introduce seasonal flights to places like Newquay / Southend / Exeter for people from Manchester / Leeds/ and all points north? Equally there may be people in the south who would like to retreat to picturesque spots in Scotland- without the long drive.
Whilst maybe not a goldmine- maybe it would at least keep aircraft & crew ticking over? The Covid crisis is not going to be over anytime soon, until they get a system like airport routine testing & proper track and trace, alternative markets might help survivability ?

And what do they need when they've got to Newquay or Scotland? A car. And hiring one isn't cheap.

castleford tiger 28th Jul 2020 16:38

I think the planners are doing an amazing job but the costs of flying the next 4 weeks with empty sectors is alarming


irishlad06 30th Jul 2020 00:07

Some flying been upgraded to 757s from MAN from this Saturday. As expected it will be Greek and Turkish destinations that the aircraft operate to. So far a few additional flights have also been added to the schedule to Turkey to accommodate the Spanish rebooking.

oldart 30th Jul 2020 09:00


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10848177)
And what do they need when they've got to Newquay or Scotland? A car. And hiring one isn't cheap.

Eastern Airways operate to Newquay from the north of England. What do people do when they do there, I think it's called surfing!

kasuga 30th Jul 2020 10:08


Originally Posted by oldart (Post 10849368)
Eastern Airways operate to Newquay from the north of England. What do people do when they do there, I think it's called surfing!

It would be interesting loading surfboards onto the Eastern 🤔😀

ROC10 30th Jul 2020 16:35

Jet2 tells holidaymakers in Spain to come home early
 
If true, this is quite surprising. Unlike the usual Jet2 customer service but the costs will, of course, be hitting hard.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/53595962

ATNotts 30th Jul 2020 16:41


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10849693)
If true, this is quite surprising. Unlike the usual Jet2 customer service but the costs will, of course, be hitting hard.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/53595962

Are the media confusing Jet2 Holidays package passengers with those that are flying under a conventional Jet.com ticket? Obviously if the latter choose not to come home, and Jet2.com cancels their flights, then they have to find another way back, perhaps with another scheduled carrier, or if they're second home owners, ride it out, but for independent travellers I doubt that's beyond the wit of most of them.

inOban 30th Jul 2020 16:53

Since Ryanair and/or EZY are continuing to fly to these destinations, why don't they arrange to transfer the return flight to either of them?

ford cortina 30th Jul 2020 17:06

Well its the top story on the BBC Six O'Clock news, interviewing package holiday customers who cannot contact their rep.
I feel for Jet2, but all that hard won customer goodwill is fast evaporating.


JSCL 30th Jul 2020 17:24

If I were Jet2, I'd have told them all to stay till the last date passengers were due come home earlier to stay there for another week- expenses covered - and fly bigger groups home maybe one or twice per week. Far more goodwill in giving them longer away than shortening.

ROC10 30th Jul 2020 19:33


Originally Posted by JSCL (Post 10849727)
If I were Jet2, I'd have told them all to stay till the last date passengers were due come home earlier to stay there for another week- expenses covered - and fly bigger groups home maybe one or twice per week. Far more goodwill in giving them longer away than shortening.

Not so much when a 2-week quarantine will still be required upon entering the UK though.

ROC10 30th Jul 2020 19:34


Originally Posted by ford cortina (Post 10849712)
Well its the top story on the BBC Six O'Clock news, interviewing package holiday customers who cannot contact their rep.
I feel for Jet2, but all that hard won customer goodwill is fast evaporating.

I did always feel their restart was rather rapid and sudden in reaching (according to their CEO) near-normal levels of service, compared to TUI’s more cautious approach. Perhaps this is the price they will now pay for that.

LBAflyer22 30th Jul 2020 20:27


Originally Posted by JSCL (Post 10849727)
If I were Jet2, I'd have told them all to stay till the last date passengers were due come home earlier to stay there for another week- expenses covered - and fly bigger groups home maybe one or twice per week. Far more goodwill in giving them longer away than shortening.

Thing is, for those 10/11/14 night stays it's not worth it for the company to fly out to PMI etc to pick up 10 pax on one flight, 12 on another, 5 on the other. Yes you could condense them but you've then got the issue with the distancing on coaches back to their individual airports. So up to this weekend your fine as full loads on return, but form next week you've got light loads as no one has flown out this week, and you've only got the +8 night stays.

dc9-32 31st Jul 2020 07:21

The question really has to be - why go on holiday in the first place. I mean, it will hardly be enjoyable will it.

ATNotts 31st Jul 2020 09:05


Originally Posted by dc9-32 (Post 10850050)
The question really has to be - why go on holiday in the first place. I mean, it will hardly be enjoyable will it.

I suppose it depends what you want from a holiday, and if it's bars, nightclubs, soaking up sun on the beach and that, then no I really don't think I'd bother, especially given that I'd also have to wear a mask for probably 6 hours at a stretch flying to and from.

However it the outdoors is what you're after (walking, eating in restaurants, relaxation and just chilling) then a trip may be quite enjoyable. I've recently returned from The Netherlands and Germany doing just that, and frankly the restrictions, though mandatory and far more firmly policed than in UK, were no hassle at all.

It's horses for courses.

ZULUBOY 31st Jul 2020 09:13


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 10850131)
I suppose it depends what you want from a holiday, and if it's bars, nightclubs, soaking up sun on the beach and that, then no I really don't think I'd bother, especially given that I'd also have to wear a mask for probably 6 hours at a stretch flying to and from.

However it the outdoors is what you're after (walking, eating in restaurants, relaxation and just chilling) then a trip may be quite enjoyable. I've recently returned from The Netherlands and Germany doing just that, and frankly the restrictions, though mandatory and far more firmly policed than in UK, were no hassle at all.

It's horses for courses.

Exactly this. I'm in Italy (in an area with low Covid rates) with the family and having a lovely time. We came by train. We're adhering to all social distancing and mask wearing as we would do in the UK.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 31st Jul 2020 11:24


The question really has to be - why go on holiday in the first place. I mean, it will hardly be enjoyable will it.
I arrived on my Jet2 holiday in Croatia yesterday and we are having a great time so far. Yes, we had to wear our masks in the airport, on the aeroplane and on the transfer to resort, but that was absolutely no problem at all. Here in resort everything is open, bars, restaurants, water activities etc, and the only time masks are required are if you go inside shops/supermarkets.

My question is why wouldn’t you, just pick where you go and don’t be overly upset if things change. Embrace the new normal.


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