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allnamestaken1 22nd Jul 2020 20:41

I have a trip booked with Jet2 in the Autumn,how long will the wearing a mask on an aircraft be going on for will i have to wear it come Sept/Oct.

Fly757X 22nd Jul 2020 20:48


Originally Posted by allnamestaken1 (Post 10843768)
I have a trip booked with Jet2 in the Autumn,how long will the wearing a mask on an aircraft be going on for will i have to wear it come Sept/Oct.

Masks will be around for considerable time yet, potentially until a vaccine (if found) is in wide circulation.

rog747 24th Jul 2020 09:18

Novelty in Palma: the first A321 in Jet2's fleet. The A321s G-HLYF about to land on 24L an hour ago....with sharklets

photo to follow ... (in holidays livery)

Mr Mac 24th Jul 2020 12:55


Originally Posted by Fly757X (Post 10843775)
Masks will be around for considerable time yet, potentially until a vaccine (if found) is in wide circulation.

My experience in Hong Kong with SARS was around 18 months, so get used to it I am afraid. It becomes second nature after awhile, but I did not expect to have to do it again in my life time, so I do feel a little unlucky and cheesed off.
Kind regards
Mr Mac

Fly757X 24th Jul 2020 13:28


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 10845168)
My experience in Hong Kong with SARS was around 18 months, so get used to it I am afraid. It becomes second nature after awhile, but I did not expect to have to do it again in my life time, so I do feel a little unlucky and cheesed off.
Kind regards
Mr Mac

That's a pity to hear and hope you're well. I've been getting used to it here too. It is just something we will have to live with. All the best.

Mr A Tis 24th Jul 2020 15:08

This article only refers to US registered 737NGs- presumably it would apply to Jet 2 NGs too(?) unless they are different ? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...H27SJClCM8jhOk

ROC10 24th Jul 2020 17:39


Originally Posted by Mr A Tis (Post 10845270)
This article only refers to US registered 737NGs- presumably it would apply to Jet 2 NGs too(?) unless they are different ? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...H27SJClCM8jhOk

Without knowing the distribution of the 2000 affected aircraft, I suppose it could apply to any 737 Classic or NG aircraft (basically every 737 currently in service).

Surprising that the problem can affect aircraft idle for as few as seven days, considering it is certainly not unheard of for aircraft to be idle for that long even pre-COVID.

40i 24th Jul 2020 18:01

Just been reading up on Jet2 redundancies, apart from BA and Virgin... both long haul, they seem to be the only airline reducing their head count. TUI, managed to agree a deal to keep at their pilots.

Seems to be a bit of a knee jerk reaction judging by everyone else.

jonnyrobbo 24th Jul 2020 22:39

G-DRTZ arrived back at EMA today, unhappy with the Paint Job.

Wallsendmag 24th Jul 2020 22:45


Originally Posted by 40i (Post 10845393)
Just been reading up on Jet2 redundancies, apart from BA and Virgin... both long haul, they seem to be the only airline reducing their head count. TUI, managed to agree a deal to keep at their pilots.

Seems to be a bit of a knee jerk reaction judging by everyone else.

What about Easyjet?

irishlad06 24th Jul 2020 22:58


Originally Posted by 40i (Post 10845393)
Just been reading up on Jet2 redundancies, apart from BA and Virgin... both long haul, they seem to be the only airline reducing their head count. TUI, managed to agree a deal to keep at their pilots.

Seems to be a bit of a knee jerk reaction judging by everyone else.

i donít think itís a jerk reaction. They are making airbus pilots (as well as Boeing) redundant because they no longer have the aircraft. Donít forgot they planned to have 6 or 7 a321ís by this point and now only have 1. Extra 757ís are going as well as not getting as many 2nd hand 800ís as predicted. Also Jet2 crew to 100% - meaning they have the right amount of crew per aircraft to even have airport standbys and home standby so day off payments are not common whereas at other airlines they donít crew to 100% because it is easier to offer day off payments meaning less permanent staff required and less full time overheads such as pension etc. TUI charter a lot of extra capacity which they wonít be no longer whilst their crew are taking a pay cut(over 12month pay cut)

Big Tudor 25th Jul 2020 06:18


Originally Posted by 40i (Post 10845393)
Just been reading up on Jet2 redundancies, apart from BA and Virgin... both long haul, they seem to be the only airline reducing their head count. TUI, managed to agree a deal to keep at their pilots.

Seems to be a bit of a knee jerk reaction judging by everyone else.

Try reading up a bit more then. Try looking into EasyJet, RyanAir, Lufthansa, Air France, SAS, Emirates, Etihad, etc, etc. In fact TUI seem to be the only ones not facing this issue. Curious as to what their plans actually are given they announced 8,000 job cuts globally and recently disclosed plans for fleet reduction in Germany?

40i 25th Jul 2020 08:53


Originally Posted by Big Tudor (Post 10845689)
Try reading up a bit more then. Try looking into EasyJet, RyanAir, Lufthansa, Air France, SAS, Emirates, Etihad, etc, etc. In fact TUI seem to be the only ones not facing this issue. Curious as to what their plans actually are given they announced 8,000 job cuts globally and recently disclosed plans for fleet reduction in Germany?

easyJet- what a mess. Not worth mentioning yet.

Ryanair- no redundancies 20% pay cut for all pilots and kept the head count

Lufthansa, SAS, Emirates ect. Completely different market.

TUI saw sense and realised that IATA predict the Short haul market will back back to pre Covid levels by mid summer Ď21. Keep the headcount and keep their market share. Enough reading for you?

Jonty 25th Jul 2020 10:47

Thatís what Ä1.8bn in state aid can do for you!

H44 25th Jul 2020 14:39

Itís not state aid, itís a loan, which will obviously have to be repaid.

The difference between Jet2 and TUI is that TUI are carrying a surplus until at least next summer, paid for by the pilots, who have voted to take pay cuts until Oct 21 to avoid any pilots having to enter a non-existent job market. Jet2 pilots I believe will only be on reduced pay until the end of the year but wonít carry a surplus as theyíre making redundancies. Two different approaches to the same problem.

hec7or 25th Jul 2020 16:18


Originally Posted by H44 (Post 10845997)
Itís not state aid, itís a loan, which will obviously have to be repaid.

This will be a ball and chain for TUI until it is repaid. TCX didn't manage very well with their £1b bankloan.

excrab 25th Jul 2020 16:33


Originally Posted by H44 (Post 10845997)
Itís not state aid, itís a loan, which will obviously have to be repaid.

The difference between Jet2 and TUI is that TUI are carrying a surplus until at least next summer, paid for by the pilots, who have voted to take pay cuts until Oct 21 to avoid any pilots having to enter a non-existent job market. Jet2 pilots I believe will only be on reduced pay until the end of the year but wonít carry a surplus as theyíre making redundancies. Two different approaches to the same problem.

According to what Jet2 have told Balpa and the workforce they are carrying a surplus of 450 pilots who will remain furloughed until end of October and then be brought back to working, although they say they donít need that many until next summer. At the moment reduced pay until end of the year but canít see it going back up in January, expect there will be more ďnegotiationĒ when they see how this summer works out and what bookings for 2021 are looking like...

ROC10 25th Jul 2020 18:26

Spanish quarantine back for whole UK. Not good news for Jet2.

I suppose it remains to be seen whether programmes are axed for the summer or if flights are offered with pax travelling at their own risk and having to quarantine. Regardless, numbers will be considerably lower as many cannot quarantine for 14 days on arrival.

jon01 25th Jul 2020 19:23

From 26 July, the FCO advises against all non-essential travel to mainland Spain based on the current assessment of COVID-19 risks

HH6702 25th Jul 2020 19:46

TUI have laid off crew.
I know a few cabin crew which were seasonal and they have all been laid off as soon as lockdown happened


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