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inOban 10th Jul 2020 21:26

Because the ScoGov has kept Spain on the quarantine list, Jet2 have cancelled all flights from Scotland for a further two weeks. Mind you, since Spain declare more COVID today than the UK, the ScoGov decision may turn out to have been wise.

sdbelgium 11th Jul 2020 10:47


Originally Posted by mariofly12 (Post 10834128)
With Jet2 restarting flights soon, do we know the 757s left where will they be used mostly to out of MAN? Assuming we don't have a paneuropean lockdown sooner than expected (knock on wood)..I suppose since no A330s this year, Jet 2 will fly the 757 on MAN-Canaries and PMI routes?

PMI and IBZ mainly, FAO as well and a weekly flight to CFU. B757 only flies from end of August though.

Trossie 12th Jul 2020 07:47


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10834155)
Because the ScoGov has kept Spain on the quarantine list, Jet2 have cancelled all flights from Scotland for a further two weeks. Mind you, since Spain declare more COVID today than the UK, the ScoGov decision may turn out to have been wise.

All the new outbreaks in Spain have been in the north (Galicia, Aragon and Catalonia). Spain is a big country. Surely the 'ScoGov' could have specified those areas for the quarantine list? Other government have shown that you can be 'area specific' like that, e.g. Belgium with their 'red listing' of Leicester for quarantining (Belgium tells Leicester arrivals to quarantine) from within a much (geographically) smaller and more 'condensed' country like Britain. Or is it that the ScoGov just wanted to be 'different from the English' and who cares about the jobs?

I am sure that Newcastle and Manchester airports will do better out of this 'ScoGov' decision though.

GLAEDI 12th Jul 2020 08:28


Originally Posted by Trossie (Post 10835104)
All the new outbreaks in Spain have been in the north (Galicia, Aragon and Catalonia). Spain is a big country. Surely the 'ScoGov' could have specified those areas for the quarantine list? Other government have shown that you can be 'area specific' like that, e.g. Belgium with their 'red listing' of Leicester for quarantining (Belgium tells Leicester arrivals to quarantine) from within a much (geographically) smaller and more 'condensed' country like Britain. Or is it that the ScoGov just wanted to be 'different from the English' and who cares about the jobs?

I am sure that Newcastle and Manchester airports will do better out of this 'ScoGov' decision though.

flying into England wonít mean you donít need Quarantine for 14 Days if you live in Scotland. All four nations use the same Passenger Locator form where you give your flight details and address in the UK. If you donít isolate for the 14 days and you have a Scottish address you could face a fine of £480 (Scots Law) even if you fly into English airport. If you give a a false address (saying your address is England, Wales or NI) in England on the form, to try and avoid the 14 day Quarantine in Scotland, youíll be liable to a fine £1,000 (English law). The collection and checking the forms is with Border Force a Home Office law enforcement arm they have been told to check the final destination of the passengers. The passenger locator forms must be completed by all arriving passengers (small exemptions for diplomatic & NATO staff) wether they are required to quarantine or exempt, due to occupation or from the list of countries published by the relevant governments.

Trossie 12th Jul 2020 10:44

You quoted my entire Post, but then only commented on the last short sentence. (And while I am not condoning it, some might consider a £480 addition to the cost of a well needed holiday to be worth it!)

Now try commenting on the rest of that entire Post that you quoted?

(And just to add to that it appears that the Belgian government is ahead of the UK governments by being more 'area specific' rather than being 'country specific', meaning that people travelling from Lisbon requiring quarantine could/should free up travel to/from the rest of Portugal.)

Jonty 12th Jul 2020 15:51


Originally Posted by GLAEDI (Post 10835133)
flying into England wonít mean you donít need Quarantine for 14 Days if you live in Scotland. All four nations use the same Passenger Locator form where you give your flight details and address in the UK. If you donít isolate for the 14 days and you have a Scottish address you could face a fine of £480 (Scots Law) even if you fly into English airport. If you give a a false address (saying your address is England, Wales or NI) in England on the form, to try and avoid the 14 day Quarantine in Scotland, youíll be liable to a fine £1,000 (English law). The collection and checking the forms is with Border Force a Home Office law enforcement arm they have been told to check the final destination of the passengers. The passenger locator forms must be completed by all arriving passengers (small exemptions for diplomatic & NATO staff) wether they are required to quarantine or exempt, due to occupation or from the list of countries published by the relevant governments.

If you have put a false address down how do you propose they find you? The whole thing is a farce and totally unenforceable.

inOban 12th Jul 2020 17:33

Border force will have access to all the same databases as the police. I'm quite sure that they are quite used to dealing with chancers.

Psr777 12th Jul 2020 18:50

Sorry for delay in replying but I couldn't get on to PPrune.

Castleford Tiger - they are staying in Tavira on the Algarve.

The day after posting the question Jet2 emailed and cancelled the flights on the 25th July. Fortunately, managed to book flights on same date, seats and baggage with Easyjet; for a considerable saving tbh. They are fine with the 14 day quarantine on return if that is still in play when they return end of August.

castleford tiger 13th Jul 2020 11:31

Its a farce. I have friends out there who own a house in Quinta. Life is pretty much normal except a mask in a shop.
Its extremely quiet.
They had return this week with JET 2 now cancelled.
The Portugal situation especially the FARO region is crazy.
FAO must be our second busiest airport..........or it was supposed to be. Looks like its off till August.

They have booked BA back at 30.00 each RYAN was even cheaper.

tiger

stonejo 15th Jul 2020 08:49


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10835465)
Border force will have access to all the same databases as the police. I'm quite sure that they are quite used to dealing with chancers.

Border Force will not be checking up on people coming from Spain or any of the other air bridge routes if they put down an English address. They hardly did it when everyone had to quarantine let alone now when there will be thousands more passengers. Everyone with a brain up here in Scotland knows its a political stunt by the SNP.

Flying Hi 15th Jul 2020 08:54


Originally Posted by stonejo (Post 10837605)
Border Force will not be checking up on people coming from Spain or any of the other air bridge routes if they put down an English address. They hardly did it when everyone had to quarantine let alone now when there will be thousands more passengers. Everyone with a brain up here in Scotland knows its a political stunt by the SNP.

Political stunt or not, not flying ftom Scotland to Spain or any other holiday YobSpot might just save your life..

stonejo 15th Jul 2020 20:05


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10837610)
Political stunt or not, not flying ftom Scotland to Spain or any other holiday YobSpot might just save your life..

Statistically the odds are very very small. You stand a higher chance of dying in a car crash going to the airport in the first place. There is a reason why they don't use percentages as it would show a small number....

MANFAN 17th Jul 2020 07:28

How are the load factors during the first few days of restarting ops?
I noticed from MAN a lot of delayed departures according to FR24 for Jet2...various destinations in Greece and Spain...any particular reason(s)?

SWBKCB 17th Jul 2020 07:34


Originally Posted by MANFAN (Post 10839387)
How are the load factors during the first few days of restarting ops?
I noticed from MAN a lot of delayed departures according to FR24 for Jet2...various destinations in Greece and Spain...any particular reason(s)?

I think FR24 are still using the times from the original summer programme, rather than what is currently scheduled so not sure how accurate any delays are.

Flying Hi 17th Jul 2020 07:37

Do the 737-300s still have a role to play?
 
So good to see my fave airline back in the air. Good luck with S20 (whats left of it) and W20/21.
Does the 737-300 still have a flight program? I think they're all back at Leeds now but haven't seen any on FR flying.
With the reduction in flights now, will the final withdrawal be accelerated?

LS737 17th Jul 2020 10:08

I believe Manchester Airport had some sort of bag system update which caused a few issues

Jonty 17th Jul 2020 10:15


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10839403)
So good to see my fave airline back in the air. Good luck with S20 (whats left of it) and W20/21.
Does the 737-300 still have a flight program? I think they're all back at Leeds now but haven't seen any on FR flying.
With the reduction in flights now, will the final withdrawal be accelerated?

They wonít be flying this summer.
Rumour has it they donít have HEPA filters fitted. But not sure if thatís true or not.

4567 17th Jul 2020 12:24

Do we think Jet2 will be making anymore cuts to the summer Schedule? A lot of routes thatís ere cut down in July/August in terms of frequency all of a sudden go back up to the likes of daily in September etc, perhaps unrealistic? Just curious.

Flying Hi 17th Jul 2020 12:32


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10839399)
I think FR24 are still using the times from the original summer programme, rather than what is currently scheduled so not sure how accurate any delays are.

Quite so. Currently airborne LS921 MAN-DLM took off 4 hours early today.
Er, I don't think so.🥴

zfw 17th Jul 2020 23:30


Originally Posted by LS737 (Post 10839561)
I believe Manchester Airport had some sort of bag system update which caused a few issues

Nope. Jet2 had done an update to their system but had forgot to test its compatability with Sita, no Bsms being rcvd.


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