Did it have passengers on board?

Would LCY-LAX work? BA can't make LCY-JFK work so I don't see LCY-LAX happening.

Does anyone have any info on the proposed Odyssey Airlines start up operating ex LCY? All seems to have done quite however the website is still active....

I don't think a Global 7500 is commonly used by airlines to carry passengers on ordinary scheduled flights...

The Twitter video linked above says with the equivalent of 11 pax.

No commercial passenger plane would be able to fly LCY-LAX.

I'm also not sure you are correct that BA can't make LCY-JFK work. Granted, its been reduced to 1 daily but its still going (this is the 10th year). BA don't usually keep running loss making services so I assume it's at least making some kind of profit.

Was the reason for dis continuing the second daily LCY-JFK, the reduction in the hours of the US pre-clearance operation at Shannon?

I think the reason was a combination of ending the afternoon preclearence at Shannon (apparently due to lobbying in Washington by a competitive major US carrier, who presented it as US taxpayer expenditure giving an advantage only to a foreign carrier) and the end of the major bulk purchase contract that started the service off, from a major Canary Wharf/Wall Street bank.

I was actually surprised that the remaining service was the early one, leaving at 0940. This means that the much-vaunted "work at Canary Wharf before the flight" is not possible. UK passengers will be coming directly from home, for many senior execs who live out in leafy Surrey etc possibly more of a nuisance journey than getting to Heathrow. US passengers will come straight from their hotel - they might as well have gone the previous evening on the last Heathrow departure.

In an investment bank, the trading floor is the first place to get any kind of activity. The early birds will turn up at 7 am, with more activity about 7:30 am. Morning meetings usually begin about 8 am. Yes there are a few people who are in the office before 7 am, but apart from people like security / catering / facilities management (none of whom will be flying to NYC) these people are comparatively rare

Allowing 45 mins from Broadgate (maybe 30 mins form Canary Wharf) to LCY (either DLR or taxi in rush hour) and 30 mins for checkin / security and maybe a little bit to spare, one would need to leave the office by about 8:20 am. - hence (as WHBM says), not really possible to do any substantive work in the office if one is catching the 09:40 flight out of LCY. All large firms in the City (banks, law firms, consultancies) provide 24h ability to login to their (virtual) PCs so someone who wakes up at 3 am and wants to do a bit of work can do this quite easily from anywhere with a laptop and Wifi

KLM, CityJet establish Air Antwerp; applies for Belgian AOC
 

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...or-belgian-aoc

LCY is looking to increase the number of flights permitted per year. As part of the plans, the weekend closure could also be scrapped.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48798266

https://www.londoncityairport.com/corporate/consultation

Interestingly the map in the masterplan shows potential for flights to Boston and Toronto as well as Dubai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi and Doha.

From the BBC link :

How does Motormouth John Stewart always manage to get half the column inches of any BBC story about LCY. I live a sight closer to the airport than John Stewart and don't consider it a disaster in the least

Presumably unless you have an opposing, critical view then it just becomes a fluff piece of advertising for LCY. It's a perfectly legitimate point of view that reflects fairly widespread opinion in East London. Why should he have to shut up just because we like planes?

It does not reflect "widespread opinion" at all. I live closer probably than BA318. None of any of the neighbours in our road have ever made the slightest comment about the airport whatsoever, apart from to me as a regular user saying how handy it must be, and are envious about not trekking down to Gatwick at holiday times, their only experience.

The described post-midnight Boy Racers along Royal Docks Road (the one visible from the airport departure lounge, across the dock) have had nothing done about them for years by either the police (London Mayor) or the local authority (Newham). If they can't be bothered about that noise then how can they represent any concern for aircraft noise.

I do seem to recall a report (Airport Consultative Committee ?) a short while ago that out of the several hundred noise complaints over the year, 50% were from one vexatious individual.

I think Motormouth lives in Twickenham, which is why it's inappropriate for him to invent same day opinions about those of us who actually live here.

A220-300
 

According to the coverage area The new A220-300 with the extended range is well within reach as is the 100 and now Etops certified.
IAG are buying a few , BA it seems are taking some . Would that not be better than the unpopular but still impressive A318.

Also the A220 would surley be able to carry more pax.

I also read the range of the Embraer E2 E190/195 Are of similar range , I think they have a slight edge of the Airbus .

But the A220 already operates into LCY and is described as the largest aircraft yet to operate there .
Is this in the realm of possibility?.

In the LCY W19 initial slot reports - Sun Air is listed as launching a 10x weekly service between LCY and Antwerp. Air Antwerp also has slots for a 17x weekly service but obviously doesn't yet exist.

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...ion-Report.pdf

According to the Dundee Evening Telegraph, LCY is trying to get the Dundee route back. It is suggested the route could operate three times daily. https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/f...s-from-dundee/

I'm not sure who'd operate it though. Loganair operate it into STN atm and would imagine they will try and move it to SEN in the current tender bid. Can't see Flybe wanting it at the moment.

If it's a PSO route, would it perhaps be better to stick with twice daily but a larger aircraft instead of thrice daily with a smaller aircraft ? It is after all, taxpayer funds being used to keep the route going. Business travellers will likely be interested in morning/evening flights. As demand increases, one would want to wean the airline off public cash and make the route commercially more self-sustaining

Business travelers use EDI because it's a much better option. There is no business case for subsidising this route, less so if it ends up at Southend-on-Sea. PSO routes were intended for marginal routes to outlying communities with limited transport options.
Dundee has easy access to Scotland's largest and busiest airport, where fares are much lower and frequency is much higher. DND is to EDI what PIK is to GLA, and I don't mean "complimentary".

Demand is going backwards as EDI grows, remember ScotAirways flew DND-LCY on a commercial basis during harder times in a smaller economy, the growth and wider options at EDI mean DND has no pressing need for a commercial airport at all, never mind one propped up from the taxpayer.

Well, their first aircraft arrived today @ANR according to https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/a...-white-livery/
Still a few details to tackle, such as an AOC ;)
If someone wonders why "the logo, ...that symbolises a hand" was chosen, have a look here https://focusonbelgium.be/en/facts/d...-hands-antwerp


And just in case someone is wondering what the colours are of Antwerp's football club, have a look https://royalantwerpfc.be/ :)

"DND has no pressing need for a commercial airport at all, never mind one propped up from the taxpayer."

Well if the Scots taxpayer is willing/stupid enough to fork out..

but TBH there are a lot of airports that hang on when any logical review would kill them off....... Doncaster, Teesside, Dundee, Prestwick, E midlands for sure and maybe a whole lot of others - Southampton, Cardiff, Exeter, Southend, maybe Liverpool, Carlisle ... and don't think of mentioning Manston!

Well you could say it about every airport in the UK with the exception of Edinburgh, Manchester, Heathrow and Gatwick! As they are for the most part a few hours drive from most of the UK.

It's a fact now. AIR ANTWERP announced today that they got their AOC.
First route : Antwerp-London City
Codeshare with KLM
3 flights a day on weekdays. 1 flight on sunday. With F50!
Operations start on Sept,9th.
More info on: https://air-antwerp.force3.be/air-an...-9th-september

Obtaining an AOC went really fast this time.
Wishing them all the luck
Grtz

Air Antwerp are effectively Cityjet, who own the majority of the shares, with KLM as a minority shareholder. Their first Fokker F50 aircraft OO-VLS is an old London City stalwart, having operated this route for VLM and Cityjet for the best part of 20 years.

6000 / month to Lisbon dropped? Has someone made them an offer they can't refuse?

I believe those two routes would do very well out of Southend, but perhaps with larger aircraft.

A lot of competition at Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton and Stansted with very competitive prices.

I've seen some very cheap transatlantic flights with TAP from LCY so perhaps it's the old saying that passenger numbers don't necessarily mean good yield. I imagine BA might look at the routes though if there is good passenger numbers.

I wasn't aware that Porto was a major business centre in Europe. Maybe BA might consider it for a summer seasonal 3x per week - but on a Tuesday in November there will need to be a very good reason why a particularly high cost operation would work compared to BA increasing frequency at Gatwick

There are several destinations from LCY that are not major business ones but have worked, such as Billund. If you get into conversation with fellow pax you find that by no means all are headed to Canary Wharf or the City.

TAP to Lisbon is surprising because I have on a couple of occasions, from an adjacent stand, been surprised by the numbers disembarking from what must have been a very full aircraft. They have the benefit of being able to offer significant onward connections, which in recent times has been their emphasis more than most; BA in comparison would be wholly point-to-point. I wonder how TAP did their revenue allocation between LCY flight and onward long haul.

LCY is favourable to originating quite a bit of onward connecting traffic; a colleague who regularly travels from London to Athens finds it is notably quicker to go with Swiss LCY-ZRH-ATH than to incur the ground travel and additional terminal time from getting to one of the other London airports for a direct, the LCY quick processing contributing significantly.

So LCY - ANR - LCY via the klm website has fares of under £99 return.

Good price