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V_2 12th Feb 2018 07:27

The bomb was found Saturday night in the dock roughly between stand 24 and the short stay car park. First of many to come I fear...

Heidhurtin 12th Feb 2018 07:31

To answer Navpi, I've dealt with several German air-dropped bombs during my time in the service, and to my knowledge none have exploded in UK in recent times except those deliberately detonated by EOD teams. A worker in Germany was killed in 2014 by a (believed to be) USA munition detonating when disturbed, which illustrates that the risk is very real. (There are far more UXB in Germany than other countries for fairly obvious reasons, and their EOD teams are utterly professional). Once the fuse is deactivated and removed the bomb itself is usually stable enough to be lifted and moved to a safe place for disposal, normally by detonating the main charge -if you ever experience one of these you gain a healthy appreciation of the amount of damage it could inflict in a built up area.

AirportPlanner1 12th Feb 2018 10:32


Originally Posted by gilesdavies (Post 10050289)
Any other City Airport operators with aircraft not based at the airport, diverting to another airport today?

Luxair, Skywork and Sun Air (BA) are going into SEN. Alitalia into STN.

LGS6753 12th Feb 2018 10:54

c130 arrivals due into LCY today. A few rescheduled showing on the SEN arrivals page, nothing showing on STN arrivals.

southside bobby 12th Feb 2018 11:06

AZA212/216 arrived at STN this AM.

Obvious judicious non ops & a/c "trapped" at LCY.

atakacs 12th Feb 2018 12:28


Originally Posted by Navpi (Post 10050261)
Just curious has an unexploded WW2 bomb actually ever blown up....

I do realise that we can't take a chance but Ive never heard on one actually expldoing ?

Although rare it happens...

Heidhurtin 12th Feb 2018 13:55

Or the one I referred to in 2014, which killed a construction worker who disturbed it, not an EOD team. The danger is real:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10550492/Construction-worker-dies-as-World-War-II-bomb-explodes-in-Germany.html

davidjohnson6 12th Feb 2018 14:29

Is there an estimate as to when LCY will reopen for normal passenger flights again ?
I know fuses / explosives become rather less stable with age but presumably someone who knows what they are doing should have an idea as to how big the job is...

Heidhurtin 12th Feb 2018 14:45

Difficult to even estimate the timeframe. The fact that it's a Royal Navy team who are dealing with it means it's either below the high water line (I'm not familiar with that area, but presume it's tidal?), or a naval mine. Either condition complicates things somewhat.

Skipness One Echo 12th Feb 2018 15:11

It’s in the KGV dock it seems.
Odd that normal ops ran yesterday? I flew on from ORY and was all ops normal but LCY had expected delays when they opened?

LTNman 12th Feb 2018 16:53

If it has sat there for 70 years what is another day.

GLAEDI 12th Feb 2018 17:00

I presume it’s been found when works have been done, now that it has been disturbed it may allow the tide to continue to move it around which could mean an uncontrolled explosion if the detonator fires. Not a good thing at the end of a runway with arriving and departing aircraft. So deal with it now, find if any others are nearby and deal with them also. Once it’s been disturbed is open to elements which could make it go bang!

tophat27dt 12th Feb 2018 19:33


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10050709)
Is there an estimate as to when LCY will reopen for normal passenger flights again ?
I know fuses / explosives become rather less stable with age but presumably someone who knows what they are doing should have an idea as to how big the job is...

I am flying with Luxair into LCY Tuesday afternoon and they are 95% sure the airport will reopen. If not, all flights will continue into Southend until it opens.

The bomb will be moved underwater tonight to a point off Shoeburyness/Foulness to be dealt with.

Flightrider 12th Feb 2018 19:48

Hopefully far enough away from the SS Richard Montgomery before they do so, otherwise we'll all have a completely different set of problems to deal with. :rolleyes:

Planespeaking 12th Feb 2018 19:53

But if that happens SEN will have all the space it needs to extend its runway!

Flightrider 12th Feb 2018 19:56

I sense Stobart Submarines coming soon to join the transport group alongside rail and airports....

MarkD 13th Feb 2018 03:10

Removal operation underway https://twitter.com/captainmfp/status/963208357241917440

cats_five 13th Feb 2018 06:05


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10050830)
If it has sat there for 70 years what is another day.

Would you be as sanguine if it was in the road outside your house?

WHBM 13th Feb 2018 12:24

For those of us who actually live in the area, which had the most bombs dropped of anywhere in Britain, such finds are a periodic event. And I'm pretty sure there will be some between LCY and the road outside our house, especially anywhere that hasn't had any foundations etc dug (such as the bottom of a dock). But I don't see them as any cause for concern at all.

WHBM 29th Mar 2018 06:41

The DLR railway has been on strike yesterday (Wed 28 Mar) and today (Thu 29 Mar). Apart from its own inconvenience, particularly for pax, it has also led to gross traffic congestion from those diverting to taxis or driving. The solid jammed traffic stretches right back along the approach road and around the surrounding approaches. It goes right back along North Woolwich Road and across the dock bridge which passes under the 09 approach. Yesterday it was taking an EXTRA hour to get from these points to the terminal. Pax could be seen abandoning taxis and struggling with baggage along the road to the terminal.

A340600MAN 9th Apr 2018 20:12

Does anyone know when BA Cityflyers (new) E190 G-LCYZ will be making an appearance at LCY please ?

nohold 9th Apr 2018 20:24

G-LCYZ is due circa May 2018.

A340600MAN 9th Apr 2018 21:01


Originally Posted by nohold (Post 10112573)
G-LCYZ is due circa May 2018.

That's a shame. I'm taking a trip down to LCY from Manchester on the 26th April and was hoping to see both YY and YZ.

Thanks for the info.

WHBM 18th Apr 2018 23:03

Another DLR strike looming, 4 days Fri-Mon 20-23 April, which again will impact LCY access. It's also London Marathon weekend, the course on Sunday effectively runs all round the DLR network and cuts off the direct road access to LCY from the City of London.

OpsSix 19th Apr 2018 07:09


Originally Posted by WHBM (Post 10123255)
Another DLR strike looming, 4 days Fri-Mon 20-23 April, which again will impact LCY access. It's also London Marathon weekend, the course on Sunday effectively runs all round the DLR network and cuts off the direct road access to LCY from the City of London.

https://i.imgur.com/SMnAA8S.jpg

;)

LGS6753 19th Apr 2018 13:16


Another DLR strike looming
...aren't DLR trains driverless?

DC3 Dave 19th Apr 2018 13:30


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10123852)
...aren't DLR trains driverless?

Indeed they are. But each one has a member of staff on board to close doors / dispatch train, check tickets and drive the train manually on occassions. This is required by the regulator.

WHBM 19th Apr 2018 15:00


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10123852)
...aren't DLR trains driverless?

Yes. But it's like Autoland, still needs someone to set it all up and do the rest of the knobs on the flight deck ...

Wycombe 19th Apr 2018 16:27

I always think that sitting at the front of a DLR train as it turns and descends into the tunnel on its way into Bank is a bit like a slow rollercoaster ride.

WHBM 19th Apr 2018 20:05

DLR strike called off at the last minute

Four-day rail strike on London's DLR suspended - BBC News

Fairdealfrank 19th Apr 2018 22:04


Quote:
Originally Posted by LGS6753 https://www.pprune.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
...aren't DLR trains driverless?

Indeed they are. But each one has a member of staff on board to close doors / dispatch train, check tickets and drive the train manually on occassions. This is required by the regulator.
Someone has to take over in the event of a "blue screen of death".

SealinkBF 20th Apr 2018 16:59


Originally Posted by Wycombe (Post 10124092)
I always think that sitting at the front of a DLR train as it turns and descends into the tunnel on its way into Bank is a bit like a slow rollercoaster ride.


I love it!

FLYAIR10 15th May 2018 19:45

LCY-ANR route celebrates 25 years
 
The route between LCY and ANR was set up in 1993. 25 years ago. This was celebrated today at both airports.

https://twitter.com/flyvlm
VLM celebrates 25 years Antwerp-London City Airport - Aviation24.be

WHBM 16th May 2018 11:09

ANR-LCY was their first route. VLM used to be the No 1 operator at LCY by movements, to a whole range of places, which eventually died out, and then just Antwerp came back.

BA318 14th Jun 2018 09:19

According to the LCY twitter feed, LOT Polish Airlines will launch twice daily LCY-WAW flights from 7th January 2019. A great addition.

LGWAlan 14th Jun 2018 12:31

1 LO 288 X7 LCY WAW 0930 1300 0 07JAN19 30MAR19 E95 2:30
2 LO 290 X6 LCY WAW 1830 2200 0 07JAN19 29MAR19 E95 2:30

and
1 LO 287 X7 WAW LCY 0715 0900 0 07JAN19 30MAR19 E95 2:45
2 LO 289 X6 WAW LCY 1615 1800 0 07JAN19 29MAR19 E95 2:45

PDXCWL45 14th Jun 2018 12:50

I thought the E195 wasn't able to operate from LCY?

BA318 14th Jun 2018 12:59

It will be operated by E190 aircraft. LOT has ordered some from Nordic Aviation Capital.

BAladdy 22nd Jun 2018 12:44

LO have announced that they plan to add flights to BUD. This the 2nd route announced by LO from LCY in just over a week will operate 2 x daily on a weekday and daily on Saturday/Sunday from 18FEB19. Flights will be operated by a 106 seat E190.

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...udapest-route/

LO2202 LCY 09:15 BUD 12:45 E90 x7
LO2204 LCY 19:30 BUD 23:00 E90 x6

LO2201 BUD 07:00 LCY 08:45 E90 x7
LO2203 BUD 17:15 LCY 19:00 E90 x6

Flightrider 22nd Jun 2018 18:04

I think they may find another carrier has already applied for slots at BUD to fly to LCY and may beat them to it.


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