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manx crab 25th Mar 2020 17:04

No, IOM allowing no one in, including residents, after tomorrow for 21 days

BA318 25th Mar 2020 17:31


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10727886)
Airport to suspend commercial + private flights until the end of April
https://www.londoncityairport.com/coronavirus

In the statement posted on social media it says “we have offered the use of London’s most central airport to the Government in case it can still be by emergency services or other agencies to support the national effort”

ORAC 26th Mar 2020 06:15

The Times:

....London City, the 12th-busiest airport in Britain, could be used by the military in the coming weeks because it is close to the Excel Centre, which is being converted into a makeshift field hospital to deal with virus patients. Images on social media appeared to show a C-130 Hercules transport aircraft landing at the airport yesterday......

AirportPlanner1 26th Mar 2020 09:55


Originally Posted by manx crab (Post 10727977)
No, IOM allowing no one in, including residents, after tomorrow for 21 days

The flight is still running, but has been moved to LGW. No one called that one.

JSCL 26th Mar 2020 09:58


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10728630)
The flight is still running, but has been moved to LGW. No one called that one.

Definitely wouldn't have called that. Not sure it'll be operating from tomorrow?

virginblue 26th Mar 2020 11:44


Originally Posted by manx crab (Post 10727977)
No, IOM allowing no one in, including residents, after tomorrow for 21 days

Is that correct? The airport website says: "

Only people resident in the Isle of Man will be able to enter the Island, with checks being made at the air and sea ports.


Which explains the continuation of flights to LPL and LON (LCY -> LGW).


lfc84 26th Mar 2020 11:47


Originally Posted by virginblue (Post 10728759)
Is that correct? The airport website says: "Which explains the continuation of flights to LPL and LON (LCY -> LGW).


This is accurate:
https://covid19.gov.im/general-infor...travel-advice/The Isle of Man will close its borders to everyone with effect from 6 am Friday 27 March 2020. This stay in effect for a period of 21 days.
  • No flights or light aircraft arrivals after Thursday 26 March 2020 close of business
  • No boat arrivals (except for food supplies, special written approvals from Chief Secretary before travel allowed to arrive on island)
All passengers arriving in the Isle of Man to self-isolate immediately on return for a period of 14 days from their arrival.

virginblue 26th Mar 2020 12:13

That's interesting. What are residents supposed to do if they, for whatever reason, do not make the deadline? Buy a tent and camp for three weeks?

While a lot of countries have closed their borders, their own citizens are still allowed in and often even repatriated.

JSCL 26th Mar 2020 12:23


Originally Posted by virginblue (Post 10728789)
That's interesting. What are residents supposed to do if they, for whatever reason, do not make the deadline? Buy a tent and camp for three weeks?

While a lot of countries have closed their borders, their own citizens are still allowed in and often even repatriated.

That was previously the case here in IOM - residents only allowed back in.

But most of the new cases here have been from people coming back to the Island from the UK or elsewhere. So this well needed action should hopefully let things settle down over the next 21 days and keep the Island safe.

lfc84 26th Mar 2020 12:32


Originally Posted by JSCL (Post 10728810)
That was previously the case here in IOM - residents only allowed back in.

But most of the new cases here have been from people coming back to the Island from the UK or elsewhere. So this well needed action should hopefully let things settle down over the next 21 days and keep the Island safe.


not quite true.

11 cases have a travel history

they then infected the others. Total now 25.

STN Ramp Rat 26th Mar 2020 14:14

I have heard a rumour that London City becomes RAF Nightingale late this evening.

ORAC 26th Mar 2020 18:40

https://ukaviation.news/london-city-...vid-19-battle/

London City Airport Could Become RAF Nightingale In COVID-19 Battle


Jet Set Willie 27th Mar 2020 10:04

Love the idea that they think a C17 and A400 can park up at LCY. It can maybe land on that runway length, bu they ought to check the width of both the runway and the taxiway before suggesting they can get in. C130 max size I would suggest.

virginblue 27th Mar 2020 11:40

Why should an A400M be unable to park? Certainly they would not use the regular stands....

Wycombe 27th Mar 2020 12:06


Love the idea that they think a C17 and A400 can park up at LCY.
A C17 was landed at Cosford some years ago, which has a 3,600ft runway, although is almost certainly wider than LCY's.
I if remember correctly, it was bringing an exhibit for the museum there.

It was offloaded on the runway and reserved under it's own steam back to the upwind threshold to depart, if I remember the video I saw of it at the time.

ORAC 27th Mar 2020 14:29

The minimum C-17 runway width requirement is 27.4m/90ft.

The runway width at LCY is 30m/98ft.

The minimum C-17 landing length is 1067m/3,500ft.

The runway length ay LCY is 1509m/4948ft.

whitelighter 27th Mar 2020 14:32


Originally Posted by Jet Set Willie (Post 10729748)
Love the idea that they think a C17 and A400 can park up at LCY. It can maybe land on that runway length, bu they ought to check the width of both the runway and the taxiway before suggesting they can get in. C130 max size I would suggest.

would be possible to park one easily using the new stands 25/26 in conjunction with the taxiway stub that accessed them

WHBM 30th Mar 2020 09:57

Generally described as now being an RAF facility, but there are still four BA Embraer 190s on the ramp, not all were ferried out to Norwich.

davidjohnson6 8th Apr 2020 13:27

Has LCY formally become an RAF facility (or is it likely to soon) or is it still just a civilian airport that has suspended private/commercial flights and while seeing the odd RAF flight ?
Have the RAF done anything substantive to turn it into a facility of their own ? (Beyond the odd test landing/takeoff and posting a couple of military guards at each entrance to tell anyone who is not medical/police/military to go away)

Yes, I know the RAF tends not to advertise absolutely everything they do to the press for good reason - but curious as to what can be discussed openly by anyone who is familiar with the topic

Buster the Bear 8th Apr 2020 13:39

RAF flew 8 circuits into Luton yesterday with a C-17, but does not mean a squadron is moving in. I was told that the call up of reservists means there is a training need, but no idea how true that is?

BA318 8th Apr 2020 14:39

I don’t believe LCY is formally an RAF facility. Last night there was a training exercise involving a Chinnock landing at LCY.


The wording “The airport remains ready to support the military and the emergency services.” Implies that it remains LCY and managed by them.

BA318 13th Apr 2020 08:29

The four BA planes which remained at LCY have now been fenced off by a white fence, held in place by concrete blocks. The fence also covers the rest of the terminal building, I guess so if others come airside they can’t access the terminal or LCY equipment.


WHBM 13th Apr 2020 11:55

Apart from the couple of trials some days ago, documented above, doesn't seem to have had any aircraft movements at all since. LCY can be seen still doing their own security patrols of the airside, rather than any military involvement. Hopefully because serious issues envisaged have not actually occurred.

virginblue 13th Apr 2020 13:26

Is NHS Nightingale at the Excel in effective use at this point or is still just an overflow facility kept on alert? Unless it gets really crowded, I don't really see the need to use LCY as its "air terminal".

davidjohnson6 4th May 2020 16:09

Now that the Excel Nightingale hospital has been officially stood down, does that mean London City will potentially reopen ?

The96er 4th May 2020 16:12


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10772376)
Now that the Excel Nightingale hospital has been officially stood down, does that mean London City will potentially reopen ?

BA Cityflyer have released a schedule showing flights resuming from Jun 01st with an incresing schedule from then on, so I guess they're looking at returning to normal-ish ops towards the end on May.

WHBM 4th May 2020 17:40

I believe there hasn't been a single air movement at LCY since the couple of trials documented above, by a Hercules and a Chinook.

Here are the four BA Cityflyer E190s which remain at the airport. They (plus all the rest of the ramp) were surrounded by low boards, presumably to guard them against the non-existent movements. The way they are somewhat peering over the top is reminiscent of when Henry the Green Engine was bricked up in the tunnel (you have to be of a certain age to understand).

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....32de3cc50e.jpg

Lord Gumboil Jnr. 4th May 2020 18:08

So WHBM, it was you who played the part of the Fat Controller!

WHBM 4th May 2020 18:14

A frequent accusation nowadays, alas, by Mrs WHBM :)

BA318 4th May 2020 21:44

Aer Lingus has dropped Cityjet and will cut the Dublin route so that won’t be returning when the rest do.

JSCL 4th May 2020 21:50


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 10772652)
Aer Lingus has dropped Cityjet and will cut the Dublin route so that won’t be returning when the rest do.

You have to wonder what next for Cityjet.. SAS cutting flying too.

WHBM 4th May 2020 22:32


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 10772652)
Aer Lingus has dropped Cityjet and will cut the Dublin route so that won’t be returning when the rest do.

That's the end of the BAe146/RJ at LCY then, the jet that started it all. Shame. Last British-built passenger jet in service, too. I chanced to notice the final EI departure before the shutdown heading out over Canary Wharf, and did wonder if they would be back. They stayed with LCY pretty much to the last day.

mariofly12 4th May 2020 23:33

A pity for the Avro and LCY spotters
..Are we to assume that the route will be taken over by BACF?Or could Loganair form sort of cs with EI amd fly it with its Embraers?

Fly757X 4th May 2020 23:42


Originally Posted by mariofly12 (Post 10772723)
A pity for the Avro and LCY spotters
..Are we to assume that the route will be taken over by BACF?Or could Loganair form sort of cs with EI amd fly it with its Embraers?

BACF already operate the route. I’d imagine if the demand is there for extra rotations post Covid-19, they’ll be added. ER4s aren’t rated for LCY. ER3s are and have operated in the past, including G-SAJR of LM back in its JetMagic days. However I’d say for certain that’s a complete no starter due to the logistics of it. If anything, it’ll just be more BACF.

nowhereasfiled 5th May 2020 01:53

CF 1st June departures out of LCY:
RTM x3
AMS x3
DUB x3
EDI x3 w/x1 nightstop
GLA x2
NCE x1
FRA x1

irishlad06 5th May 2020 09:59

I can see if there are route or frequency reductions with BACF that they might start BHD with the spare capacity as it was a profitable route for BE.

RJ100 7th May 2020 11:07

G-LCYS is en route NWI-LCY at the moment.

WHBM 7th May 2020 11:37

LCYE also appears to have taken off from LCY after 6 weeks' storage there, and is heading out over the North Sea - seems to be heading for the maintenance provider at Warsaw.

Red Four 7th May 2020 11:39

LCYJ revving up at NWI too.

BA318 7th May 2020 14:02

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1b7f0aaa9.jpeg
One E170 left LCY today and three E190s arrived. The three E190s which were already here remain where they were.


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