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virginblue 31st Mar 2019 09:31

As the route is heavily subsidised by the Bailiwick of Guernsey, maybe the cash cow has not entertained the idea of getting milked by Jersey punters?

KindaUnstuck 31st Mar 2019 11:51

Not long after the GCI-LHR announcement, the Jersey Evening Post ran an article in which Flybe said they would be opening bookings for JER-GCI-LHR as a through booking about 10 days after the GCI-LHR went on sale so it was on the cards but maybe Guernsey States managed to close that down.

TimmyW 2nd Apr 2019 09:28

Poor start to the summer Schedule from DSA. 3 days in and more than half the flights cancelled.
No 2nd aircraft has been brought in, hence the cancellations. Expecting to see a cull of routes soon.

Cazza_fly 2nd Apr 2019 09:42


Originally Posted by TimmyW (Post 10436457)
Poor start to the summer Schedule from DSA. 3 days in and more than half the flights cancelled.
No 2nd aircraft has been brought in, hence the cancellations. Expecting to see a cull of routes soon.

Wrong again TimmyW. Where do you get your information from? A second aircraft HAS actually been "brought in" to DSA and operated a full timetabled schedule yesterday.

What is infact happening is an operation-wide crew shortage. Both flight crew and cabin crew. I would probably go to say they will soon be in crisis mode if not already. Flybe however only have themselves to blame. No solid reassurance for their employees jobs before and now after the consortium take-over. This coupled with an extremely late winter schedule release - which would have reassured employees of future plans, then i can fully understand why so many have left or jumped ship to other airlines. I'm also not aware of any recruitment campaigns to make up for these losses, so i can't see the crewing issues ending any time soon.

TimmyW 2nd Apr 2019 09:44


Originally Posted by Cazza_fly (Post 10436471)
Wrong again TimmyW. Where do you get your information from? A second aircraft HAS actually been "brought in" to DSA and operated a full timetabled schedule yesterday.

What is infact happening is an operation-wide crew shortage. Both flight crew and cabin crew. I would probably go to say they will soon be in crisis mode if not already. Flybe however only have themselves to blame. No solid reassurance for their employees jobs before and now after the consortium take-over. This coupled with an extremely late winter schedule release - which would have reassured employees of future plans, then i can fully understand why so many have left or jumped ship to other airlines. I'm also not aware of any recruitment campaigns to make up for these losses, so i can't see the crewing issues ending any time soon.

The second aircraft went back out to Birmingham yesterday.

Cazza_fly 2nd Apr 2019 09:56


Originally Posted by TimmyW (Post 10436473)
The second aircraft went back out to Birmingham yesterday.

I can assure you it did not. Oh dear TimmyW. I think you will find the plane will actually still be parked up at DSA after arriving back from AMS yesterday evening.

Todays BHD has been cancelled. Yet again due to a network wide crewing crisis.

TimmyW 2nd Apr 2019 10:11


Originally Posted by Cazza_fly (Post 10436486)
I can assure you it did not. Oh dear TimmyW. I think you will find the plane will actually still be parked up at DSA after arriving back from AMS yesterday evening.

Todays BHD has been cancelled. Yet again due to a network wide crewing crisis.

I can assure you, it did.

Cazza_fly 2nd Apr 2019 10:20


Originally Posted by TimmyW (Post 10436501)
I can assure you, it did.

Show me evidence other than the one i'm physically seeing right now and then i'll never believe my eye sight again.

TimmyW 2nd Apr 2019 10:35

So you've driven there just to check?

Alwayslistening 2nd Apr 2019 11:37


Originally Posted by TimmyW (Post 10436525)
So you've driven there just to check?

100% guarantee there are two based E175s at DSA. I work there so i should know :ugh:

Not sure why someone would spend time on a forum lying - very sad :{

NickBarnes 2nd Apr 2019 11:57


Originally Posted by Alwayslistening (Post 10436575)
100% guarantee there are two based E175s at DSA. I work there so i should know :ugh:

Not sure why someone would spend time on a forum lying - very sad :{

Best to ignore Timmy

rog747 2nd Apr 2019 14:20

not very good start
 

Originally Posted by TimmyW (Post 10436457)
Poor start to the summer Schedule from DSA. 3 days in and more than half the flights cancelled.
No 2nd aircraft has been brought in, hence the cancellations.

Meanwhile over at NQY also not a good look - First day of LHR-NQY Ops - last evenings goes tech at 8pm and folk bussed up to LHR - 6 hours - nice (not)

I would have preferred they put me on the GWR sleeper

VC10man 2nd Apr 2019 17:00

My daughter flew to EMA from JER on Friday for a visit. Her return Monday flight was cancelled, so she booked today. Three hours before departure that was cancelled for "technical reasons". Having read the above posts I suppose it is crew shortages causing the cancellations.

Flymaybe are the worst airline I've ever flown on and they continue to plumb the depths of customer service. What a shambles they are cancelling flights on consecutive days so my daughter can't get to work. She says she will use easyJet to Liverpool next time. Oh how I wish easyJet had remained at EMA, they are so much better than Flybe.

davidjpowell 2nd Apr 2019 19:37

TimmyW is DSA's naysayer. He is ignored on the EGCN thread hence turning up here with his usual inaccurate information.

Still these cancellations are vexing. I need to book for Dublin next week, and was planning to return to Manchester with a different airline. A cancellation would murder that plan. Choices are to use a different airport, or double the risk and book both ways with Flybe and an overnight stop....

inOban 2nd Apr 2019 20:44

There are two cancellations out of EDI tomorrow as well. Early SOU flight and the 10.30 BHX.

OltonPete 2nd Apr 2019 22:01

Cancellations
 

Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10437009)
There are two cancellations out of EDI tomorrow as well. Early SOU flight and the 10.30 BHX.


Add BHX-BHD again, BHX-BOD BHX-ABZ plus the EDI mentioned above, then today BHX - BHD and BHX- GLA,, BHX -NQY yesterday and so it goes on, a sorry state of affairs.

Just for balance add Newcastle - Southampton, Belfast City to East Mids. Leeds, Glasgow and Aberdeen and Glasgow - East Mids - well into double figures..

Mind you al from an airline that operates a 175 on short sectors such as MAN-NQY and MAN - SOU but a Dash on BHX-STR or TXL says it all really and I do know why this is the case but I thought the new owners might have other ideas.

Pete

jmccrew 2nd Apr 2019 22:27


Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10437072)
Add BHX-BHD again, BHX-BOD BHX-ABZ plus the EDI mentioned above, then today BHX - BHD and BHX- GLA,, BHX -NQY yesterday and so it goes on, a sorry state of affairs.

Just for balance add Newcastle - Southampton, Belfast City to East Mids. Leeds, Glasgow and Aberdeen and Glasgow - East Mids - well into double figures..

Mind you al from an airline that operates a 175 on short sectors such as MAN-NQY and MAN - SOU but a Dash on BHX-STR or TXL says it all really and I do know why this is the case but I thought the new owners might have other ideas.

Pete

I assume load factors dictate which aircraft is used on what route no point sending a 175 to STR if they can’t fill it . Plus until EU approval sometime in the summer new owners don’t have a say

Cazza_fly 2nd Apr 2019 22:32

Flybe Winter 2019/20
 
The Flybe winter schedule is expected to be released tomorrow (3rd April). I'm expecting to see big changes and not the good kind either...

chaps1954 2nd Apr 2019 22:57

Cazza was that meant to read not the good kind ?

OltonPete 2nd Apr 2019 22:57

STR
 

Originally Posted by jmccrew (Post 10437089)

I assume load factors dictate which aircraft is used on what route no point sending a 175 to STR if they can’t fill it . Plus until EU approval sometime in the summer new owners don’t have a say

78 seats on a Dash and 88 on 175 is not going to make much difference and it is more the way these routes are financed which dictate where the 175 jets go if you catch my drift. I was going to do a fare comparison but came unstuck as I couldn't get any MAN-NQY fares up for several weeks (May on flybe) - I assume a glitch as the service operated today?

Pete


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