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stewyb 17th Jan 2018 18:21

Could someone please clarify. The E95 currently have 9 in fleet, 3 going to Stobart in June '18, thus leaving 6 with Flybe. However discussion from above posts suggest that this summer will be down to 3 total (are a further 3 being returned from lease)?

Jerry123 17th Jan 2018 19:04

From what i can see on their website from mid June there will be one E195 based at Cardiff, 1 at Exeter and 1 at Southampton. So it does suggest 3 left.

caaardiff 17th Jan 2018 19:30

When you look at BE's route network, outside of the business routes it's a bit random.
French routes are mainly served by MAN, BHX and SOU.
Italy is a mixture;
FCO - CWL only
MXP - MAN, BHX, CWL, SEN
VRN - CWL, SOU
VCE - CWL only
Germany;
HAM - BHX only
TXL - DSA, BHX, CWL
DUS - LBA, MAN, BHX, LCY, CWL, SOU
CGN - SEN only
HAJ - MAN, BHX
STR - BHX only
MUC - CWL only

SEN has a good mixture of longer routes, granted these are Stobart routes.
Aside from SEN, CWL stands out as having the most routes operated from there but not from the other bases. BE surely have the right sized aircraft for regional flying to some of these other destinations.
When you look at the SEN routes operating to further away - Croatia, PRG, BUD, VIE, these could be further routes and markets to expand in.

Jerry123 17th Jan 2018 21:06

With airports like SOU, DSA and EXT i wonder if a future strategy could be looking at Italy for routes like Rome and Venice and for CWL look at France and Eastern Europe.
With the others maybe more focus on domestic routes and AMS, DUS and CDG with the Q400s.

01475 17th Jan 2018 21:26

SENs longer routes are outliers in more ways than one; the purpose of them is perhaps at least as much to demonstrate the capabilities of the airport than anything else.

The European business-ish type routes look less random if you consider the (general) absence of competition and size of the markets for business / leisure. They are all routes of a general nature of somewhere just above BMI type routes in terms of potential business / leisure volume. They have neither enough potential business traffic to attract the flag carrier from the other end nor enough potential leisure traffic to attract a loco, but enough of both to ensure they could compete against BMI style prices and loco style frequencies.

nigel osborne 18th Jan 2018 20:50


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10022124)
Wouldn’t the TCX hangar be abut big for Flybe? It’s designed to accommodate larger aircraft rather than ejets and props?

Yes way too big I would have thought and too expensive..just what I heard from someone who works for the airline.

PAXboy 25th Jan 2018 03:09

May I presume that the SEN ~ ANR route is the Q400? But which model are the running? I'm looking at seating as one of our party needs wheelchair asst. Thanks.

koninckske 25th Jan 2018 06:31

SEN - ANR will be operated by Stobart Air with an ATR72

Jamesair 25th Jan 2018 19:54

They are now doing both of the Saturday charters NCL - SLZ for TUI during the summer 2018 season using Q400 a/c

PAXboy 25th Jan 2018 21:53

Thanks koninckske.

SealinkBF 5th Feb 2018 15:37

Flybe withdrawing from Kirkwall and scrapping Glasgow Stornoway flights.

Eastern will continue with Aberdeen Stornoway, using Flybe flight numbers.

OltonPete 19th Feb 2018 17:36

Any further information on the shambles of the BHX operation today?

One day after a Dash departs to operate for SAS the BHX operation goes - well nowhere. One or two cancellations happen but seven!

BE501 JER 07.15
BE402 BHD 08.35
BE786 GLA 10.40
BE653 NOC 11.25
BE107 AMS 15.25
BE847 EDI 15.40
BE794 GLA 19.00

I assume tech going by reports of the MAEL apron at BHX.

No money for subbing aircraft in then?

kcockayne 19th Feb 2018 18:40

Jersey & Guernsey were suffering from fog for a lot of the day - as they were yesterday.

OltonPete 19th Feb 2018 18:48

kcockayne

Cheers for the info but I am even more confused as the one aircraft was fog related but wouldn't that free it up and help even more with the tech aircraft as it could not have been weather at AMS, BHD, EDI, GLA, AMS & NOC surely?

Reversethrustset 19th Feb 2018 21:59

No because if the fog suddenly clears, which, anyone who knows the channel islands well, can happen in a heartbeat.

SealinkBF 23rd Feb 2018 17:34

Rumour has it that Stobart Air are planning a 100% takeover of Flybe...

Stobart Group confirms interest in Flybe (FLYB) deal as shares in the airline rise 36 per cent | City A.M.

canberra97 23rd Feb 2018 23:56

Which was announced yesterday and it has been discussed in great detail on the Stobart thread. I find it strange that it has taken over 36 hours for this news to have finally appeared on the Flybe thread!

DC3 Dave 25th Feb 2018 09:17

There's a lot of opinion elsewhere regarding Stobart's statement and possible next move. How is this going down in Flybe world?

jamestkirk 26th Feb 2018 06:00

How’s it going down.......

Some are convinced that if it happens then base closures and redundancies.
Some are more philosophical and think it’s what the company needs.
Some are hoping that Exeter gets sorted out and restructured.
Some are running around topless, in a frenzied panic screaming for Jesus.

Richard Taylor 26th Feb 2018 06:22

I like the image of the last one! :O

jamestkirk 26th Feb 2018 06:25

On occasion. I’m one of them.

Flocks 26th Feb 2018 09:38

So far there is nothing . And what make you think if Stobart group do an offer, Flybe board will accept it ?
The share is really low currently, worse timing to sell and if I believe all communication they did recently with the new CEO, the reduction of fleet, . I m sure the board believe they can go back on track and so the share will go up .
Or what make you thing if Stobart group buy Flybe it will be all bad . From what I understood, they want to be a major provider in the regional, easy way to do is to buy a big regional airline, Flybe is already losing Aircraft in the next few years (85 last summer, 73 end of 2019 ...) So redundancy .
Just my 2 cents . we will see in less than a months what stobart group will do or not do

Andy_S 26th Feb 2018 10:44

It’s not within the boards power to accept or reject any offer. They can of course recommend that shareholders take a particular course of action (in this case they have already advised “do nothing”) but if a formal offer is subsequently made for FlyBe then it has to be put directly to the shareholders.

Flocks 26th Feb 2018 12:16

Yes I know that. When I said the board, I wanted to said the main share holder, I just assumed the main share holder were in the board, what is probably not. I don't really know how Flybe is owned. But I still believe as shareholder it won t be the good timing to sell.

We will see. One more time, I really don't think either if Flybe is sold it won't be a bad stuff. I remembered employees were complaining about aer arann on this forum long time ago, now all my friend in Stobart air are quit happy

davidjohnson6 26th Feb 2018 13:01

Hostile takeovers tend to mean the bidder pays a higher price than otherwise and the management of the target leaves shortly after completion
The result is that hostile takeovers tend to produce a worse return for shareholders of the acquiring company than friendly takeovers

Stobart can go hostile if they want but the Stobart shareholders will be more reluctant. A friendly / agreed takeover will likely do better for all parties involved

Barling Magna 26th Mar 2018 16:48

So what are flyBE buzzing about on their twitter feed....? A new partnership with whom, I wonder?

lfc84 26th Mar 2018 20:39


Originally Posted by Barling Magna (Post 10097806)
So what are flyBE buzzing about on their twitter feed....? A new partnership with whom, I wonder?

probably car hire or hotel

Startledgrapefruit 26th Mar 2018 20:51


Originally Posted by lfc84 (Post 10098080)
probably car hire or hotel

Valuecabs ?

lfc84 26th Mar 2018 21:17


Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit (Post 10098094)
Valuecabs ?

sorry - hostel !

RHagrid 27th Mar 2018 00:46


Originally Posted by Barling Magna (Post 10097806)
So what are flyBE buzzing about on their twitter feed....? A new partnership with whom, I wonder?

Probably Qatar. They love lame duck's.............

cornishsimon 30th Mar 2018 12:46

Did I miss this weeks announcement?


cs

Alteagod 30th Mar 2018 13:03

Oh yes forgot about that!! Well what was it?

HH6702 30th Mar 2018 14:50

Couldn't have been that exciting

Barling Magna 31st Mar 2018 10:49

Well I guess it was in the term "buzzing"...... flyBE's Facebook now says "All to bee revealed this weekend." Is it a sting?

Richard Taylor 31st Mar 2018 10:58

All will bee revealed tomorrow........................................

ericlday 31st Mar 2018 11:04

April 1st.....Hmmmm

BHXEDGG 31st Mar 2018 11:55

NWI
 
Rumor has it BHX-NWI route on the cards...

Alteagod 31st Mar 2018 17:16

Or they filing for divorce from Eastern or buying c series or bidding for the east coast rail franchise or running on time

Flightrider 31st Mar 2018 18:10

BHX-NWI....think you're a day early with that one!

JAR 1st Apr 2018 08:35

2 hours ago on Facebook

This morning, we are pleased to announce the Flybe International Bee Breeding Scheme (F.I.B.B.S.), a new partnership between Flybe and the British Beekeepers Association.


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