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nigel osborne 18th Oct 2017 12:24


Originally Posted by Jerry123 (Post 9928844)
Well they did have that under carriage collapse at Amsterdam with a Q400 so that could've led to the higher than expected maintenance bill. I'd thought they would've been required by the CAA to check the landing gear on all their Q400s which may have increased costs.


No I think it means Maintenance contracts.They had a meeting with MAEL who did their maintenance work 2 months ago.

Reported here on Pprune recently they had decided to take maintenance back in house and stop using MAEL.

Rumours been circulating for some time at BHX that being MAELs first 3rd party airline here, they got a very cheap deal and the contract was up for renewal this autumn.

I assume that would mean they may have to cut back more lucrative 3rd party maintenance at EXT to facilitate that .Thus increasing costs that are mentioned in the press release

ATNotts 18th Oct 2017 13:19

Nigel


I assume that would mean they may have to cut back more lucrative 3rd party maintenance at EXT to facilitate that .Thus increasing costs that are mentioned in the press release
If that's the case I suppose that it's conceivable MAEL could then be pitching for that third party work formerly done by FlyBe at Exeter.

bodminsteve 18th Oct 2017 13:25

There is a big change coming ref engineering which will short term increase costs , However long its going to really improve matters

Jamesair 18th Oct 2017 13:53

The summer 18 schedules will be updated tomorrow (19th)

Jerry123 18th Oct 2017 14:16


Originally Posted by bodminsteve (Post 9928920)
There is a big change coming ref engineering which will short term increase costs , However long its going to really improve matters

Would that involve moving from Exeter or opening up another maintenance base?

SWBKCB 18th Oct 2017 15:05

The article linked at #39 says -


Flybe said it had incurred higher than expected costs in the first half of its financial year after a review of aircraft maintenance.

It said this reflected a drive to improve the reliability of its aircraft, particularly the Bombardier Q400 turboprop.
Unless the article is wrong, this doesn't look like a provision against increased future costs.

ratchetring 18th Oct 2017 19:22

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/460622...chester-flybe/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/469262...es-in-cockpit/

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....nding-13778944

http://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-...diverts-573445

cornishsimon 18th Oct 2017 20:19

Don't know what point your making with the news links. These things happen and they happen to all airlines with quite some regularity.

More concerning reading the reports is the really quite low passenger numbers on routes, especially LHR-EDI which must be loosing money left right and centre to be only carrying 40 odd passengers.

Sholto Douglas 18th Oct 2017 20:24

So ratcheting you show 4 news items, two of which are referring to the same incident on 3rd October, and one that happened on 16th October. I am sure that you are aware that Ophelia caused over 6 precautionary landing due to reported "smoke/burning smells" in the cockpit - this included EasyJet who had 2 diversions, Virgin Atlantic and British Airways.

In Mon I Trust 18th Oct 2017 20:42

I wouldn't bother listening to a word ratchet ring talks, its either about Flybe broken planes all over the place, or Monarch is stable company no need to listen to MOL. There are plenty of people like him about with tinted glasses on, that the downturn of Monarch all happened when the engineering was combined from Flybe. They blame us for it all

cornishsimon 19th Oct 2017 08:22

Looks like the schedules are currently being loaded.

mikkie4 19th Oct 2017 08:45

...SEN ANTWERP £79 RTN ,beat that VLM

TimmyW 19th Oct 2017 09:05

Berlin dropped from DSA after June. Seems to be replaced by Palma.

DC3 Dave 19th Oct 2017 09:25


Originally Posted by mikkie4 (Post 9929710)
...SEN ANTWERP £79 RTN ,beat that VLM

Don't get carried away. SEN flights don't start until the end of March.

bodminsteve 19th Oct 2017 10:50


Originally Posted by In Mon I Trust (Post 9929338)
I wouldn't bother listening to a word ratchet ring talks, its either about Flybe broken planes all over the place, or Monarch is stable company no need to listen to MOL. There are plenty of people like him about with tinted glasses on, that the downturn of Monarch all happened when the engineering was combined from Flybe. They blame us for it all

You need to lose that chip of your shoulder, Customers are not interested in petty squabbling, You just need to work together to deliver the aircraft on schedule!

nigel osborne 19th Oct 2017 12:47

MAELhave just signed a 4 yr deal with Virgin to look after their 787s.Seventeen are due through BHX this winter.Two already come.Also at least 3 A330s.

Norwegian 787s are revisiting again.A 789 was in this week.At least 13 are due through.
Other wide bodies also booked for the winter too.Two TUI 788s have also been it it last 10 days

Wycombe 21st Oct 2017 19:52

Saw on FR24 an E175 operating BHX-AGP today. Don't think that's a normal route, are they picking up some ex-MON business?

LAX_LHR 24th Oct 2017 19:54

Potentially some new flybe routes to come.

Campbeltown is showing as (CAL) in the timetable section, but no routes assigned to it yet.

The route map is also showing MAN-BOD as a direct route but no direct flights bookable yet.

Flightrider 24th Oct 2017 20:37

The online TT had a total meltdown a few days ago and was back to displaying routes from 2015 so things like Liverpool-Amsterdam suddenly appeared again and all the old Loganair franchise routes popped up! Quite funny - took me a moment to work out what had happened. It doesn't seem to be the most robust piece of software and I would have thought that if Flybe were going to appear anywhere, Campbeltown would probably be one of the last and not the first - it being a PSO and a pretty small one at that.

LBIA 24th Oct 2017 20:59

Flybe are operating a weekly Saturday charter flight to Innsbruck next summer 2018 season for Inghams Holidays. Looks to be using a Birmingham based aircraft that also w-legs to Leeds/Bradford.

BE9227 = BHX 07:00 – INN 09:55 / BE9226 = INN 10:30 – LBA 11:35
BE9225 = LBA 12:25 – INN 15:30 / BE9228 = INN 16:10 – BHX 17:05

HH6702 24th Oct 2017 21:04

Flybe operating into NCL from SZG too I've heard on a Saturday

The96er 24th Oct 2017 22:00


The route map is also showing MAN-BOD as a direct route but no direct flights bookable yet.
There's been a flight BE13/daily showing on the Airport Chroma system for a while now with the destination showing a ZZF (Unspecified destination) for the winter schedule. Is this related ?

LAX_LHR 24th Oct 2017 22:21

It's possible, but probably too late for a W17 launch now, be interesting to see if it comes off.

BAladdy 25th Oct 2017 01:30

Looks like BE are operating quite a few charter flights on behalf of Inghams next summer. Here are details of the flights I have found so far. All flights operate on a Saturday.

BE9117 = BHX 07:05 - SZG 10:05/BE9118 = SZG 10:50 - BHX 11:55

BE9222 = EDI 07:20 - INN 11:40/BE9221 = INN 12:20 - EDI 14:45
BE9223 = MAN 06:45 - INN 09:50/BE9224 = INN 16:10 - MAN 17:20
BE9225 = LBA 12:25 - INN 15:30/BE9226 = INN 10:30 - LBA 11:35
BE9227 = BHX 07:00 - INN 09:55/BE9228 = INN 16:10 - BHX 17:05
BE9229 = BRS 12:30 - INN 15:30/BE9230 = INN 10:35 - BRS 11:40

Most of the flights listed above were originally planned to be operated by WX.

MidlandsWanderer 26th Oct 2017 08:21

ABZNWI gone? Can't seem to find any sign of it on the website

SealinkBF 26th Oct 2017 12:01

Any reason why GLA-SYY is off sale on Flybe website?
Non-stop service bookable via online travel agents but not direct. Bizarre!


EDIT - Seems the website glitch is still there. According to Flybe. Loganair must be laughing. (Or maybe not seeing as they are charging £50 ew for this Monday coming)

mik3bravo 2nd Nov 2017 10:49

Avios is not showing London Southend as a option under your preferred departure airport under your Avios account details.

Considering London Southend has a number of new Flybe routes it seems ridiculous this hasn't flowed through to Avios, after all Flybe booking's constantly advertise Avios points available.

Flybe need to get that sorted out with Avios.

Plane.Silly 2nd Nov 2017 11:14

Might just be a system error, can't see that hanging around for long, especially with new routes

Barnstable 8th Nov 2017 09:55

I must say that FlyBe could market their Embracer 175 flights better. I've been doing a lot of flying recently, mostly with budget airlines but also with the established nationals, and they're all pretty similar when it comes to legroom and comfort. Basically, you are squashed in and the service sucks. However, one of my recent flights was CDG-DSA with FLybe and there is a massive difference compared to 737s - loads more legroom, just two seats each side of the aisle, very comfortable seats at that with mock-leather covers. OK the ride is a bit bumpier, but that s no big deal - for some it probably adds to the fun

If you book a flight though, there is very little info given about the type of plane or the level of comfort. Perhaps they should be marketing them as a lind of regional Ethiad, make the seating specs more prominant and, at least at DSA, offer closer check in times (similar to London City). At the moment you can see the prices are higher than many others, but there's no indication of the benefit.

stewyb 8th Nov 2017 10:55

unfortunately this is not a priority for the average customer on short haul and they will always be swayed by keeping money in their pockets, whether that be business or leisure travel!

SealinkBF 8th Nov 2017 11:47

I love Embraers, and yes the legroom is fantastic. Surprised airlines haven't done something about that!

ELondonPax 8th Nov 2017 12:14

FlyBe / Avios / Southend. Pah! I was looking at the FlyBe inflight magazine, November edition, on a FlyBe (Stobart) flight out of Southend and the only flight available from Southend (according to FlyBe’s own magazine) is to Newquay. Inept marketing would be a polite description.
(Flight to Glasgow was excellent by the way, but it’ll never succeed with such useless lack of marketing)

cornishsimon 8th Nov 2017 17:20

Are you sure you were looking at the SEN page not the STN page ?

Expressflight 9th Nov 2017 06:44


Originally Posted by ELondonPax (Post 9950434)
FlyBe / Avios / Southend. Pah! I was looking at the FlyBe inflight magazine, November edition, on a FlyBe (Stobart) flight out of Southend and the only flight available from Southend (according to FlyBe’s own magazine) is to Newquay. Inept marketing would be a polite description.
(Flight to Glasgow was excellent by the way, but it’ll never succeed with such useless lack of marketing)

The November magazine isn't on their website yet but the October edition certainly listed all the routes from SEN and, of course, just NQY from STN.

LGS6753 9th Nov 2017 13:00

Flybe (FLYB) share price dips despite profits falling after hit rising aircraft maintenance costs and drop in sterling | City A.M.

LGS6753 9th Nov 2017 16:15

Looking for MON slots at MAN & BHX:

Flybe slims down fleet in effort to address overcapacity

OltonPete 9th Nov 2017 18:18

Slots
 
Looking for MON slots at BHX!

I take it someone is taking the........Their 2018 schedule is at least 6 movements less per day including 4 they have chucked away at peak times per the 2018 timetable.

They need to add two aircraft to stand still at BHX in 2018.

There are some very strange decisions with frequencies and timings with the 2018 schedule and where some such as the French route reductions are understandable others such as reducing Milan to daily and Berlin was a surprise.

I suppose with flybe. getting their BHX schedule finailised early is not as important as it is for the likes of Ryanair and Jet2, as most of their traffic would be fairly late bookers and maybe there is more to come.

toledoashley 9th Nov 2017 18:49

Seems like a slow offloading of responsibility to third-party airlines(BlueIslands, Stobart & Eastern)... Maybe conditioning for a buyout?

mik3bravo 9th Nov 2017 22:22

Not sure they'll survive in current set-up. Perhaps an acquisition target by A N Other.

mik3bravo 10th Nov 2017 07:27

Flybe radio adverts blitzing prime morning radio in Ireland advertising low cost flights to London Southend. Currently running the adverts on the Newstalk FM Breakfast show. Good to hear it.


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