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newfoundglory 22nd Sep 2019 14:28

Makes sense that Malaysian and Qatar have got spare aircraft available for charter.

Anyone know what sort of spare capacity BA and EasyJet will have in terms of charter?

JonnyH 22nd Sep 2019 14:41


Originally Posted by newfoundglory (Post 10576166)
Makes sense that Malaysian and Qatar have got spare aircraft available for charter.

Anyone know what sort of spare capacity BA and EasyJet will have in terms of charter?

They don’t have any.

daz211 22nd Sep 2019 15:06

I’m not speculating anything but has anyone any idea what the 3 x 763 Eastern aircraft are doing in Shannon other than rescue flights for Thomas Cook. 2 one the ground and 1 en route as we speak, all 3 from Miami.

CEJM 22nd Sep 2019 15:14

Most likely the CAA getting ready in case the negotiations fail. They did the same in 2016 when Monarch’s ATOL renewal was pushed to the line. It was slightly worrying to land in Palma de Mallorca to be greeted by a United B747 in case the ATOL license wasn’t renewed.

fortunately in 2016 all the aircraft flew back without having been put into action, at a great cost to the CAA. Lets hope that the same happens again this time round!

redED 22nd Sep 2019 15:16


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10576186)
I’m not speculating anything but has anyone any idea what the 3 x 763 Eastern aircraft are doing in Shannon other than rescue flights for Thomas Cook. 2 one the ground and 1 en route as we speak, all 3 from Miami.

I’ve been in Shannon before when 767s have called in enroute to the Middle East carrying US troops.

safelife 22nd Sep 2019 15:17

https://news.sky.com/story/thomas-co...emand-11817027

daz211 22nd Sep 2019 15:21


so nice to see, hope all turns out well.

sorry was ment to be a Facebook video, of a plane loads of passengers landing back in the UK on a Thomas Cook flight, all shouting we love Thomas cook, apparently crew in tears as passengers disembarked hugging crew members.

daz211 22nd Sep 2019 15:35

From Airlines . Net
 
The UK Civil Aviation Authority is on high alert to rescue Thomas Cook customers if the tour operator cannot be saved from collapse within 24 hours.

The CAA has held detailed conversations with a group of five airlines to rescue passengers, which includes:
  • British Airways
  • Virgin Atlantic
  • easyJet
  • German travel operator Tui
  • Jet2
Thomas Cook Group is meeting its biggest shareholder and creditors since 9am in last-ditch talks to avoid collapse.

I don’t see how this is going to help other than fill spare seats on existing flights.


newfoundglory 22nd Sep 2019 15:37


Originally Posted by JonnyH (Post 10576172)
They don’t have any.

Exactly what i thought, and then i was wondering how BA and EZY were able to do it the last time around?

Rushed Approach 22nd Sep 2019 15:38


Originally Posted by CEJM (Post 10576193)
Most likely the CAA getting ready in case the negotiations fail. They did the same in 2016 when Monarch’s ATOL renewal was pushed to the line. It was slightly worrying to land in Palma de Mallorca to be greeted by a United B747 in case the ATOL license wasn’t renewed.

fortunately in 2016 all the aircraft flew back without having been put into action, at a great cost to the CAA. Lets hope that the same happens again this time round!

I believe Monarch picked up the tab for that 2016 contingency.

BA318 22nd Sep 2019 15:40


Originally Posted by ivor toolbox (Post 10576141)
erm, isn't that the one they've just acquired from Singapore Airlines, needs to have the interior reconfigured etc before going into service? As Singapore want their premium cabin stuff back.

Ttfn

HiFly have been operating an ex-Singapore A380 for a while now, complete with former SQ interior. I don’t believe Singapore Airlines want their cabin back. A few of their ex planes fly with these sort of airlines with the old cabins.

Doc Q 22nd Sep 2019 15:41


Originally Posted by ScotsSLF (Post 10575830)


Mods - this troll needs dealt with

If trying to be optimistic is trolling ,then yes guilty as charged ...
And i’m still optimistic a deal can be done , Hopefully the repercussions of not doing so will concentrate minds today

CEJM 22nd Sep 2019 15:41


Originally Posted by Rushed Approach (Post 10576215)
I believe Monarch picked up the tab for that 2016 contingency.

To be honest Rushed Approach, I have no idea if the bill was picked up by MON or not.


CEJM 22nd Sep 2019 15:46

Doc Q, why do you have to resort to insults? The only one calling other posters a moron or pr*ck is you. It fair enough that you don’t agree with their opinion but does it really warrant calling people names on an anonymous forum?

If you really want to be such a ‘Big Boy’ then call people morons or pr*cks whilst posting under your real name!

Doc Q 22nd Sep 2019 15:47

At the end of day the CAA can organise as many aircraft as they wish to be on standby it’s not going to influence the outcome of the talks today and only means the CAA are prepared for the worse IF it occurs

Doc Q 22nd Sep 2019 15:48


Originally Posted by CEJM (Post 10576226)
Doc Q, why do you have to resort to insults? The only one calling other posters a moron or pr*ck is you. It fair enough that you don’t agree with their opinion but does it really warrant calling people names on an anonymous forum?

If you really want to be such a ‘Big Boy’ then call people morons or pr*cks whilst posting under your real name!

Yes your right ....Post amended

CEJM 22nd Sep 2019 15:50

Doc Q, thank you!

If you got any skin in this game then I feel for you and all your colleagues.

daz211 22nd Sep 2019 15:54

There is no need for name calling and arguing, an opinion is an opinion and we all have them, if you don’t like someone’s opinion don’t forget they are entitled to have one.

what we all need to remember, emotions are high and for good reason but nothing said, true or not on this site will change the outcome of this situation.

also worth say, our friendly plane enthusiast have more information than us in the business sometimes, so let’s all calm down a bit and have some self respect and be respectful to others.

Doc Q 22nd Sep 2019 15:55

Testing times for all , however i really do think a last minute reprieve is on the cards

daz211 22nd Sep 2019 16:13


Originally Posted by Doc Q (Post 10576237)
Testing times for all , however i really do think a last minute reprieve is on the cards

I truly hope so but with that, changes will have to made and fast, drastic changes and a total overhaul of the company will be the only way Thomas Cook won’t find itself in the same predicament this time next year or sooner.

What is actually owned, airframe wise by Thomas Cook?
Could a quick fire sale of some metal not save the day ?


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