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rob39 10th Apr 2018 16:50

Will they be joining the TCX Fleet????????

22/04 10th Apr 2018 17:32

Nope - newer sharkleted ones- ZBAD,ZBAE,ZBAM ZBAO

LiamNCL 10th Apr 2018 19:02

ex Aeroflot A321 VP-BUM joining fleet , its in TCX Livery now and should be G- Registered soon.

Luke1991 10th Apr 2018 19:14

I thought that frame was going to Condor to become D-ATCF?

LiamNCL 10th Apr 2018 21:16

Jethros has it listed at the moment as G-

D-ATCD has been painted in Sentido livery.

scousechris 11th Apr 2018 16:20


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10113661)
ex Aeroflot A321 VP-BUM joining fleet , its in TCX Livery now and should be G- Registered soon.

Definetly not on G register. It will be registered as D-ATCF

jfy1999 12th Apr 2018 08:31


Thomas Cook Airlines UK in October 2018 and January 2019 plans to operate charter service to Sri Lanka, with 1 flight each from London Gatwick and Manchester planned, on board Airbus A330-200 aircraft.
Flight dates and times here

MKY661 15th Apr 2018 23:08


Originally Posted by scousechris (Post 10114719)
Definetly not on G register. It will be registered as D-ATCF

I had a feeling it wasn't going to Condor as Thomas Cook titles were applied rather than Condor ones. Anyway it's going to Avion Express and will be leased to the TCX Group for the summer season.

scousechris 16th Apr 2018 14:12


Originally Posted by MKY661 (Post 10119637)
I had a feeling it wasn't going to Condor as Thomas Cook titles were applied rather than Condor ones. Anyway it's going to Avion Express and will be leased to the TCX Group for the summer season.

It will be registered LY-VEC for Avion and is on a long term lease to TCUK. Planned to be based at MAN for S18 like VEG & VEH last summer, with LY-VED planned to join also.

azz767 18th Apr 2018 09:01

I have a few of questions regarding the A330 fleet if anyone’s able to help.

Firstly a bit of a bug bear of mine but does anyone know if CHTZ is planned to be painted into the new livery as its still in the hybrid AFAIK?

Secondly VYGK, in all economy layout, how do they determine where to send this a/c. I regularly see it on MAN-JFK but would have thought this would need the premium seats, also is there any plans to add premium to it?

VYGM coming in for the summer, will this be all economy as well?

Finally they are due a 330-300 from Scandinavia. This is in all economy currently and regularly does European holiday flights. Is this the same for when it comes here or will it go 2 class for long haul ops?

scousechris 18th Apr 2018 12:36


Originally Posted by azz767 (Post 10122415)
I have a few of questions regarding the A330 fleet if anyone’s able to help.

Firstly a bit of a bug bear of mine but does anyone know if CHTZ is planned to be painted into the new livery as its still in the hybrid AFAIK?

Secondly VYGK, in all economy layout, how do they determine where to send this a/c. I regularly see it on MAN-JFK but would have thought this would need the premium seats, also is there any plans to add premium to it?

VYGM coming in for the summer, will this be all economy as well?

Finally they are due a 330-300 from Scandinavia. This is in all economy currently and regularly does European holiday flights. Is this the same for when it comes here or will it go 2 class for long haul ops?

TZ- it’s not due in for repaint for a while yet, it was one of the last to be done into paint scheme. Showing as due 2021

GK- w17/18 it was mainly on the JFK route in full economy. S18 is is operating some JFK & MCO flights and is sold as operated by Air Tanker on these selected flights. The core A330 fleet will operate alongside GK offering Premium for those at want it. Possibility that premium may be added in future, but nothing concrete ATM.

GM- All economy as per S17 and will be operating SEA,BOS and some JFK. Possibility it will receive TCUK interior, but doubting it will be for S18.

A330-300 VKG is back for S18 at MAN early May then off to GLA and STN peak summer. Full economy as previous years at 380 seats, which is a slight reduction on the Scandinavian confit during winter.

TCX69 18th Apr 2018 15:01

On a side note, A321 G–TCDV was ferried MAN–EMA yesterday for repaint into the new (or should I say current) livery. That still leaves G–DHJH, G–NIKO, G–TCDA/CDB aswell as G–CHTZ to be repainted.

MT will also be leasing a HiFly A330–200 for S18, based at MAN.

SJL26779 18th Apr 2018 15:30

Would be interested to know the routes which Hi-fly aircraft is operating. They are using so many non TCX aircraft this year, especially long haul without the promised on board product.

FFMAN 18th Apr 2018 18:04

Had a look at MAN-SEA for an upcoming trip but decided against using TCX....US West Coast is too much journey in Economy after long days working. Not so bad if you've just been on holiday I suppose.

TCX really need to sort out the consistency of their long-haul product if they're looking for long term long-haul success. I was talking to one of their resident agents at JFK some weeks ago. She said even they aren't sure when Premium is available on the route and on which days....god help the rest of us. She also said that when it is available, it's 'totally sold-out'. I don't understand why TCX can't be more commercially astute. There appears to be a queue of people (with me in it) who are happy to give them more money for more comfort.
My own anecdotal view of both JFK and BOS both of which I've used on a number of occasions is that there are plenty of people using the services for non-vacation reasons, including one really senior exec I was sat next to in PE at the end of last year.
For MAN-SEA...all economy...can't 'SEA' that one lasting unfortunatley

scousechris 18th Apr 2018 19:03


Originally Posted by TCX69 (Post 10122774)
On a side note, A321 G–TCDV was ferried MAN–EMA yesterday for repaint into the new (or should I say current) livery. That still leaves G–DHJH, G–NIKO, G–TCDA/CDB aswell as G–CHTZ to be repainted.

MT will also be leasing a HiFly A330–200 for S18, based at MAN.

All of the ‘blue’ besides DB & TZ will be painted by end of May, slots are booked in EM@ over the coming weeks.

The Hifly A330 is reserve aircraft and planned to operate some shorthaul routes. Obviously if it needs to ops L/H then can be activated and utilised quickly. Apart from GM all other L/H aircraft have TCX interiors, some with slightly different config, eg GK all economy. With the exclusion of SEA all other L/H routes have premium available, core fleet operates JFK/MCO on specific days

SJL26779 18th Apr 2018 19:44

If the Hi-Fly aircraft is a reserve A/C for short haul then I wonder why the TCX airlines website shows this:

HiFly product information for Summer 18 coming soon

Long-haul summer 2018

scousechris 18th Apr 2018 20:11


Originally Posted by SJL26779 (Post 10123077)
If the Hi-Fly aircraft is a reserve A/C for short haul then I wonder why the TCX airlines website shows this:

HiFly product information for Summer 18 coming soon

Long-haul summer 2018

The Hifly information is actually under the short mid haul catagory not long haul. I admit the spacing on website isnt the best, but final briefing we had last week was short haul only. The long haul flying programme has sufficient aircraft to cover for S18

FFMAN 19th Apr 2018 16:28


Originally Posted by scousechris (Post 10123016)
With the exclusion of SEA all other L/H routes have premium available,

So one of the longer routes with a likely higher mix of business traffic goes all economy? :eek: Really?
Also your comment above is phrased very cleverly...JFK Premium is 'available' but not all the time. As per my post above not even the JFK staff are certain which days the Premium ones appear - she thought 'around 3 p/w'.
If you want to go out PE you're not going to be happy being forced to return in economy....you'll look for another airline instead.

ANU I understand is all economy flight despite it being a 'premium island'

It's the inconsistency and the apparent lack of commercial astuteness at TCX that worries me. Needs sorting.

azz767 19th Apr 2018 16:41

Completely agree, it can’t be that hard to source A330’s that the lessors will put in your own config? I assume it’s air tanker that want them in all economy? If not it’s as you say not the cleverest on tcx’s part. What baffles me more is how well received PE has been and how popular the USA flights appear to be. Surely that would tell them they need premium as standard across the fleet?

chaps1954 19th Apr 2018 16:56

I think you will find it is very difficult to get an A330 let alone to your particular layout


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