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If I may, rather than posting unfounded rumours or opinions why not check in with friends, colleagues or mates who work for Thomas Cook. Take them out for a beer, a meal, just ring them for a chat. It won’t make one jot of difference to the survival or not of the company (just like posting on here won’t) but at least it will show that you care and it might help take their mind of things for an hour or two. Just try try and by human. |
2 x 321's and 3 x 330's are owned on the British register. Unsure of the scandinavian aircraft. Could VS possibly be interested in the LH ops, certainly out of MAN where routes are duplicated ? Remove competition and grow some ?
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Of course the CAA etc will have made plans after all it is there job to be prepared as it`s peoples lives and careers, if they hadn`t it would be very remiss of them
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If the MH A380 and 3x 767s are all the CAA has currently on it's way/in place, then it's a pretty meagre effort thus far. The majority of the typical wet-lease operators are flat out covering Boeing and RR's incompetence, there isn't much spare capacity lying around in Europe. Bar Jet2, the operators listed above won't be of much use either.
For the sake of the industry, let's hope a positive outcome is found at the 11th hour tonight. Hundreds of type rated pilots out of work isn't good for anyone. |
So let’s say it all work out again this time round, how does Thomas Cook move on and restructure or even rebrand? As we all know in this industry once someone finds something that works most airlines try and follow closely, causing saturation and price wars in the industry. Whats missing from the short to medium Holiday market ? In my opinion the industry could do with an Airline / Tour Operator that is so different to all the others and provide everything with one price no additional cost. Free baggage Free food Free seats This wouldn’t mean sky high fares it would just be a simple easy use booking, once all the add on have be totalled up with other airlines the cost is way more that at first shown, so why not just provide a simple honest product. I know lots of people that would find it very desirable. Back to basics destination wise, popular Med and if longhaul is involved, Orlando and Vegas. Also I think the Thomas Cook brand has been damaged to a point that a rebrand of Airtours International wouldn’t be a bad thing. |
The meeting has ended in London, there is a video on twitter of everyone leaving.
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 10576295)
The meeting has ended in London, there is a video on twitter of everyone leaving.
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Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10576294)
This wouldn’t mean sky high fares An everything free airline would be niche and not be suitable for the stack em high charter types. |
Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled
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Frankhauser looked red eyed almost like he’s been crying. It’s genuinely distressing to watch, I tip my hat to the TC Management who have fought day and night for the survival of the company. |
Well. Lets hope there isn't to be an aerial convoy from Qatar tonight. Fingers crossed for everyone. |
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10576294)
So let’s say it all work out again this time round, how does Thomas Cook move on and restructure or even rebrand? |
. Also I think the Thomas Cook brand has been damaged to a point that a rebrand of Airtours International wouldn’t be a bad thing. |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10576304)
It would, and there lies the problem. People don't want meals if they have to pay for them (i think the percentage of selected pre paid meals is actually quite low), so why give them away for nothing. People now cope with less luggage, so why go back to old times. An everything free airline would be niche and not be suitable for the stack em high charter types. just add it all to the ticket / holiday price you will still sell snacks and make profits on the food service. It would need a very structured and clear advertising campaign but I strongly believe and have see strong evidence that people would love a one price all including Airline infact my Airline almost went down this route. If your the only airline offering this when all others are fighting each other for bums on seats with the same product there is enough out there to fill seats on an airline that offers more. |
One's tempted to suggest that the body language & demeanour of the Thomas Cook boss, Peter Fankhauser, speaks volumes. He certainly doesn't seem to be leaving that crucial meeting with a hop, skip & jump in is step, or neither a big smile upon his face: https://tinyurl.com/y4oat4vv
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Originally Posted by eggc
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I'd have a good long look at the success that is Jet2, they getting most things right and people love it.
My thoughts are with all at TC in these horrendous hours. |
Originally Posted by Old King Coal
(Post 10576320)
One's tempted to suggest that the body language & demeanour of the Thomas Cook boss, Peter Fankhauser, speaks volumes. He certainly doesn't seem to be leaving that crucial meeting with a hop, skip & jump in is step, or neither a big smile upon his face: https://tinyurl.com/y4oat4vv
Im not holding my breath after seeing this. |
Originally Posted by BluSdUp
(Post 10575965)
It is sad to see fellow Aviators loose the job.
That said I find it amusing at best to read the drama Queens going on about poor Pax stranded. If a company goes bust it stops operation . END OFF. Why in the name of communism or capitalism should any Government Agency give a toss about ANY so called stranded Pax. Use Creditcard or get insurance or bring cash and debitcard. So You Holiday is ruined, big deal stupid! 20 000 people is out of a job!! THAT is a big deal! Regards Cpt B I feel for the staff more, but lets not lose sight of the fact that if the worst comes to the worst, more than the employees will be in the proverbial. |
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10576319)
I disagree, the average spend on trolly food / snack is £18 per passenger per sector and it was evident that people payed for snack because food was not available or they didn’t think in advance to book it. just add it all to the ticket / holiday price you will still sell snacks and make profits on the food service. It would need a very structured and clear advertising campaign but I strongly believe and have see strong evidence that people would love a one price all including Airline infact my Airline almost went down this route. If your the only airline offering this when all others are fighting each other for bums on seats with the same product there is enough out there to fill seats on an airline that offers more. Although TUI are bigger, Jet2 are performing better. It's rare to hear bad things about Jet2, so they must be getting something right. There does seem to be a lack of customer care from Thomas Cook sometimes, not from the Travel Agents/Crews etc, but during/after travel complaints about issues when abroad, but TUI also suffer the same complaints, you only have to look at their Twitter feeds. |
I don't know too much about this but can I ask what would happen to the TC planes in the US if the plug was pulled?
EG, on Flightradar24, there is a TC flight inbound to Orlando not scheduled to land for another 3 hours - would it make a return journey? High hopes and best wishes to all at TC - I flew with them earlier this year short haul and found the experience to be exceptional. |
Originally Posted by BluSdUp
(Post 10575965)
It is sad to see fellow Aviators loose the job.
20 000 people is out of a job!! THAT is a big deal! END OFF. Regards |
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