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LAX_LHR 23rd May 2018 12:55


Originally Posted by Ex Cargo Clown (Post 10154696)
They've denied it.

true but VLM denied all intentions when I found their schedule too so one to watch.

Ex Cargo Clown 23rd May 2018 13:17


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10154745)


true but VLM denied all intentions when I found their schedule too so one to watch.

VLM are notoriously flakey, and it's a very thin route. The Loganair route can only work as a BE feeder.

LAX_LHR 23rd May 2018 14:33

Indeed but just reporting what is in Amadeus.

Caravaggio 25th May 2018 11:40

Terminal 3
 
Experience at departures terminal 3 not as good at midday this month as last trip was. 5 minute queue at drop off due to road works preparation for the £3 drop off scam. Not all security channels open despite it being Friday of Bank Holiday weekend. 15 minute queue at security. Security helper very polite and friendly though.

GavinC 26th May 2018 10:12

MAN TP Update
 
Link

plenty of newish info and, of more interest, a new CGI of the T2 Madterplan

nigel osborne 26th May 2018 20:48


Originally Posted by GavinC (Post 10157285)
Link

plenty of newish info and, of more interest, a new CGI of the T2 Madterplan

Its all very impressive with much more terminal space and better taxiway clearance.

However just 7 more aircraft stands than 2017 the way i read it is hardly adequate ??

Surely they need to build the 4th pier and associated stands to cope with the near time expansion Manchester is seeing again for the next 12 months alone ??

Baltic Skies 26th May 2018 21:01

T3 experience yesterday was dreadful as ususal.
Long queues at security,lounge full with no seating available
Just an awful way to spend an hour before taking a flight

LAX_LHR 27th May 2018 02:13

Looks like Biman are aiming to return to MAN in November operating Dhaka-Shylet-Manchester-Shylet-Dhaka 2 weekly with B788.

New York tag to be added as soon as they are allowed, but likely 2019.

Logohu 27th May 2018 04:21


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10157800)
Looks like Biman are aiming to return to MAN

Excellent news for the hotels around MAN that cater for disrupted passengers ;)

​​​If it happens let's hope Biman stay a bit longer this time

Is this the third long haul route announcement we are waiting for, or is that still to come ?

M62 27th May 2018 08:35


Originally Posted by Baltic Skies (Post 10157690)
T3 experience yesterday was dreadful as ususal.
Long queues at security,lounge full with no seating available
Just an awful way to spend an hour before taking a flight

That was just the icing on the cake for us. After a two hour trip from Leeds due to congestion in Leeds city centre, M62, M60 and M56 (which I accept is not MAN's fault) to be queuing for 45 minutes to do the last mile into the car park is pathetic. I had considered the train but the woman sitting next to me on our flight had taken the train from Leeds, which got as far as Piccadilly and then terminated due to some problem on the line to the airport. She had then the joy of a tram ride, which took an hour.
This isn't the first time I've had issues getting to MAN and we made our flight because you have to factor this sort of delay into your travel time but it does impact on your decision making when looking for flights and the chances of me using T3 in the near future are about zero.

Rutan16 27th May 2018 09:58

Did you have any intentions of using a T3 carrier in the near future anyway ?

Seems your moan is more about generally poor infrastructure, and even more so, ongoing works to rectify many of those weaknesses that have already been identified.

By the way blame goes straight to the Transport Minister -The Rt Hon Chris Grayling representative for those well known northern boroughs of Epsom and Ewell for the mess of Northern TPE and electrification or more correctly fractured modernisation and timetable misery being inflicted across the north at the moment.

In reality other than Sun and Sangria /Ouzo flights from Leeds, Finingley and staying with MAG East Midlands as well, think what are your better options ?

Lets see two and half hours on the train and an hour on the tube or a little shorter and then fleeced on the most expensive railway on the planet - that will get you to Hearthrow won’t it !

Or anything from 4 hours drive south and parking that will probably cost you more than your holiday !

You could try National Express but that will leave you in the lovely Birmingham Mill Lane Coach Station for a least half an hour of luxury !

Or oh I know a connecting flight well yes KLM will do that for you over Amsterdam okay for that business trip I suppose.

BA however a little less convenient these days via Heathrow what with one mid morning and one evening flight lots of customer choice there!

And well Dublin might beckon however unless you make a risky self connect you could be spending some hours looking across runway 16/34 !

Suppose you could try Birmingham however flights do tend to be rather more expensive and I suggest you google and read over the terminal experience online as they have their problems too !

Then there is Gatwick it’s a real pi**er to get to and from the Northwest and Yorkshire and especially since BA cut flights and Arriva Cross Country decided Bournemouth would pull more punters than Gatwick and Brighton combined !

Luton is a building site and Mecca for East Europe no disrespect meant and 40 minutes to get up New Airport Way in the morning is far from unheard of !

Oh and before I forget wind speeds over a little over a breeze might find your Leeds flight in Manchester in any case.

Just left out Newcastle I think they have an airport of sorts ( jest !)




LAX_LHR 27th May 2018 13:00


Originally Posted by Logohu (Post 10157846)
Excellent news for the hotels around MAN that cater for disrupted passengers ;)

​​​If it happens let's hope Biman stay a bit longer this time

Is this the third long haul route announcement we are waiting for, or is that still to come ?

this isnít the 3rd airline I eluded to, so this is extra and could make 4 new long haul airlines this winter. With HU to CAN also in the running, as well as the capacity increase from CX, our eastern flights look rosy this winter.

doublesix 27th May 2018 21:45

Only T3
 

Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10158053)
Did you have any intentions of using a T3 carrier in the near future anyway ?

Seems your moan is more about generally poor infrastructure, and even more so, ongoing works to rectify many of those weaknesses that have already been identified.

By the way blame goes straight to the Transport Minister -The Rt Hon Chris Grayling representative for those well known northern boroughs of Epsom and Ewell for the mess of Northern TPE and electrification or more correctly fractured modernisation and timetable misery being inflicted across the north at the moment.

In reality other than Sun and Sangria /Ouzo flights from Leeds, Finingley and staying with MAG East Midlands as well, think what are your better options ?

Lets see two and half hours on the train and an hour on the tube or a little shorter and then fleeced on the most expensive railway on the planet - that will get you to Hearthrow wonít it !

Or anything from 4 hours drive south and parking that will probably cost you more than your holiday !

You could try National Express but that will leave you in the lovely Birmingham Mill Lane Coach Station for a least half an hour of luxury !

Or oh I know a connecting flight well yes KLM will do that for you over Amsterdam okay for that business trip I suppose.

BA however a little less convenient these days via Heathrow what with one mid morning and one evening flight lots of customer choice there!

And well Dublin might beckon however unless you make a risky self connect you could be spending some hours looking across runway 16/34 !

Suppose you could try Birmingham however flights do tend to be rather more expensive and I suggest you google and read over the terminal experience online as they have their problems too !

Then there is Gatwick itís a real pi**er to get to and from the Northwest and Yorkshire and especially since BA cut flights and Arriva Cross Country decided Bournemouth would pull more punters than Gatwick and Brighton combined !

Luton is a building site and Mecca for East Europe no disrespect meant and 40 minutes to get up New Airport Way in the morning is far from unheard of !

Oh and before I forget wind speeds over a little over a breeze might find your Leeds flight in Manchester in any case.

Just left out Newcastle I think they have an airport of sorts ( jest !)




I take it you either work For MAG or only visit occasionally! As someone who works there driving daily the place is a joke and donít try to think otherwise.
​​​​​​.

Rutan16 27th May 2018 22:45

And did I say otherwise no i didnít - the signage and diversions or the roads are bl**dy confusing and a nightmare. The terminals are at breaking point in the morning especially T3 , the railways are a mess courtesy of Grayings short sightedness and Network Rail ineptitude wiring down south .
Buses in GMC desperately need an over powering and regulatory body !
Still you missed the whole point - Right now just about all the UKs major airports are creeking yet Manchester is actually doing something with the TP programme underway and its not just vapid and endless talk.
Only other airport taking action is Luton and thatís an equally pleasant experience I think not.



MAN2SIN2BKK2FRA 28th May 2018 08:34


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10158213)


this isnít the 3rd airline I eluded to, so this is extra and could make 4 new long haul airlines this winter. With HU to CAN also in the running, as well as the capacity increase from CX, our eastern flights look rosy this winter.

MAN was actually mentioned in the Bangkok Post yesterday as being back as a target for Thai Airways in a report re the financial turnaround of the airline

commit aviation 28th May 2018 10:17


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10158582)
Only other airport taking action is Luton and thatís an equally pleasant experience I think not.

You could add Stansted to that list as well (....and the challenges are the same too!)

jubilee 28th May 2018 11:18

To balance out transport etc to the airport. Saturday May12th. caught the train at my local station, (Glossop) into Piccadilly arrived on platform 2 as I alighted on to the platform Trans Pennine to the airport was pulling into platform 3.
On arriving at the airport on to the overhead walkway all the moving walkways working,(Yes I know its unusual) Into T3 about 15:15 straight through security, no waiting, slight delay on flight due to fog first thing in the morning,
Made up delay on the flight.

Return from PMI used the new BA service on the 19th.May, arrived back about 2 pm. 5 minute delay in passport, 8 minutes wait for the train into Manchester, just caught my train to Glossop with about 1 minute to spare.

SEE SOMETIMES EVERYTHING DOES WORK ACCORDING TO PLAN.

From earlier post by LAX he was not sure where this Saturday flight originated from, the answer is LCY. Load about 50%, but it was its first flight back to Manchester, and certainly a lot better than the low cost airlines.
Jubilee

MANFOD 28th May 2018 13:53

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...attle-14714781

Note the quote in the article that 43% of bookings for Seattle have transfer feeds at either end of the route.

ZOOKER 28th May 2018 16:23

This is a thread of 2 halves, is it not?

On one hand, we have LAX, Scottie Dog, dobbo-dobbo, Gavin and MANFOD gushing excitedly about all these new 'bookable' services, 'Masterplans' connectivity and leg-room.

And then along come Baltic Skies, Loghu, Council Van, M62, A Tis, doublesix and Rutan, telling us of the harsh reality of NW air travel and it's connecting ground-based infrastructure......Or apparent lack of it

Shplendid!

There appears to be little, if any, 'joined up thinking', somewhere along the line/road/airport/tram-way/bus-route*.

* Delete as applicable. :E

LAX_LHR 28th May 2018 17:56

The ‘lack of joined up thinking’ has always been a major feature in this thread, and it seems neither side can win.

The ‘negative side’ get called moaners, the positive side get called ‘fanboys’ and that’s just the way it’s always been and likely always will be.

i personally try to stick to routes news now. I have interjected a bit in the past, but I’ve just accepted now people like a moan. Some of the moaning is justified (like staff east debacle and so on), some of the moans are not (a 15 minute wait at security on one of the busiest days of the year at the UKs 3rd largest Airport isn’t a valid moan in my opinion), but apart from that, this thread is what it is.

welcome to Manchester :E


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