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Scottie Dog 14th May 2018 11:37


Originally Posted by MARK9263 (Post 10146440)
Who are the other two?

That would be telling........
:E

Curious Pax 14th May 2018 13:05

There’s the Thai rumour that resurfaced recently, and then the Jet Airways/Virgin thing to India. Plus you wouldn’t rule out something Chinese, so 2 of those 3 perhaps?

LAX_LHR 14th May 2018 13:53

Hot on today’s announcement, there will be an Ethiopian A350 due on 26th. Arrives 0730 departs 0900.

Scottie Dog 14th May 2018 19:59

A slightly better map for ETOPS to explain the location of the initial work on new taxiway Echo - this appears to be the building of fillets across current taxiway Bravo.

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SWBKCB 15th May 2018 12:18

Update from the Evening News - don't know how much of this is new.

Has the 'super terminal' idea been downgraded? Here's what bosses have to say

Dobbo_Dobbo 15th May 2018 12:21


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10147384)
Update from the Evening News - don't know how much of this is new.

Has the 'super terminal' idea been downgraded? Here's what bosses have to say




I have tried to summarise the key points and some thoughts on the article in the MEN below - I hope it's an accurate and fair summary!

1 - some design elements (e.g. living wall) are not set in stone. This is because final decisions are being postponed until the last possible moment to incorporate the latest technology.

2 - however, some design element decisions have been taken, for example teardrop check in desks and bag drops (I assume a similar design to MUC).

3 - whatever the design decision, the end result is intended to achieve the wow factor.

4 - T1 still set for demolition "in the long term".

5 - the intention is still to have three piers, with an intention to add a fourth in future (see below).

6 - USPC is still in negotiation, but it is complicated because it requires US and UK government approval. It is fair to say that both governments have plenty on their plate right now, so I wouldn't expect anything soon.

7 - the size of the terminal extension is actually bigger than first forecast (albeit on a smaller footprint?). The initial plan was a 140% size increase but it is actually 150% larger.

8 - we know the west pier has been demolished, I wonder what the future holds for the east pier (the new baggage hall is bolted on to the rear of it) and the interior of the existing terminal building.

9 - the taxiway is larger than initially planned, presumably because MAN anticipates increased use of A330/B787 sized aircraft.

10 - the piers have "evolved" and not necessarily "shrunk". Interestingly, it is claimed that one pier (presumably not the one under construction) includes an "extra lounge". I did not know any pier contained a lounge, I assume this is a new (but welcome) development.

11 - stands increase from 105 to 112. The number of air bridges at T2 will increase from 12 to 28 (I assume this is based on 3 piers rather than 4).

12 - look and feel: the terminal building promises panoramic views through large glass windows, large porches are at the entrance, and the living wall may be replaced by a multimedia space. I hope the new look and feel is replicated in the old building so that it has a consistent internal feel.

13 - the forecourt is a concept. I'm not sure it should be that complicated to finalise, but I hope the external (forecourt and airside view) has a consistent look and feel from the new build to the old.

14 - lots of new car parking (IMO sensible, but the road network needs to cope!)

15 - no funds diverted to STN, the cost is now in excess of £1bn.


Curious Pax 15th May 2018 14:42

Interesting the phrases used in the MEN preamble sound familiar. Methinks the author has been frequenting these parts!

caryh 15th May 2018 17:52


Originally Posted by Dobbo_Dobbo (Post 10147387)


7 - the size of the terminal extension is actually bigger than first forecast (albeit on a smaller footprint?). The initial plan was a 140% size increase but it is actually 150% larger.


This has likely been achieved using the new mezzanine they say has been added.

JerseyAero 15th May 2018 18:04


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10146548)
Hot on today’s announcement, there will be an Ethiopian A350 due on 26th. Arrives 0730 departs 0900.

I assume this is a football flight for the Champion's League final in Kiev ? making use of the aircraft that usually sits around at LHR all day?

Thanks

Dobbo_Dobbo 15th May 2018 20:51


Originally Posted by caryh (Post 10147618)
This has likely been achieved using the new mezzanine they say has been added.

I presumed this, but am not clear if the mezzanine has been created by increasing the roof space or by squeezing an extra floor into the existing building size.

The96er 15th May 2018 21:40


12 - look and feel: the terminal building promises panoramic views through large glass windows, large porches are at the entrance, and the living wall may be replaced by a multimedia space. I hope the new look and feel is replicated in the old building so that it has a consistent internal feel.
The airport must have a different idea as to what constitutes 'glass' , because what's on show at the moment looks far from impressive with absolutely minimal use of glass.

Dobbo_Dobbo 16th May 2018 08:19

Jet: BOM-MAN?
 
[email protected] Exclusive: Sources say #JetAirways board approves expansion of International network. Jet Airways to add four New Flights in Six Months. New routes decided;
Mumbai-London, Mumbai-Manchester,Delhi-London, Mumbai - Sydney
@jetairways

azz767 16th May 2018 12:21

https://www.virginatlantic.com/gb/en...rtnership.html

can we see this affecting the MAN operation in any way? Delta have done well out of this none the less

j636 16th May 2018 13:59

Traffic Statistics | Manchester Airport

April traffic, small drop but domestic had a strong month.

LFC22 16th May 2018 18:30


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10147808)
The airport must have a different idea as to what constitutes 'glass' , because what's on show at the moment looks far from impressive with absolutely minimal use of glass.

It underwhelms, to say the least. I was expecting modern glass piers such as the ones at FRA but instead we've got dull grey, to blend in with the Manchester weather I assume

LAX_LHR 17th May 2018 12:31

Thomas Cook increasing MAN-CUN to 8 weekly next summer, up from 6 weekly. Tuesday’s will see 2 flights, one at 0930 and one at 0935!

however, remains to be seen if that capacity stays bookable, due to the rampant gang crime, Cancun is quickly loosing its appeal amongst the Brits at the moment.

BHX5DME 17th May 2018 12:42

Can confirm the ETH359 is for the football
An ETH788 ops from LPL too
SAA A333 will also be involved

Scottie Dog 17th May 2018 12:49

My source says that both ETH aircraft, plus the SAA are operating into Liverpool - therefore no longer relevant to the Manchester thread. Things of course may change!!

LAX_LHR 17th May 2018 12:59

Worldchoice sports website still has the Ethiopian A350 down as Manchester, but now sold out.

There are a few other flights due into MAN on 26th too,

LAX_LHR 17th May 2018 23:39

The Jet Airways route to Mumbai has now officially been announced:

Jet Airways launches Manchester to Mumbai flights | Herald Series

thats new long haul airline 2 of 3 for this winter announced, one more to go.....


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