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ZOOKER 30th May 2018 16:35

It would be superb to see Thai at Manch'.....Parked next to Singapore.

Have we ever had a Thai aircraft at EGCC?

LAX_LHR 30th May 2018 16:39

WE had a Thai B744 divert from LHR a few years back, even further back Iíve seen a pic of a Thai DC8 (I think) parked at T1 but donít know the date or circumstances as to why it was there.

Flightrider 30th May 2018 17:33

SAS and Thai had a DC-8 interchange/leasing arrangement for many years so it's possible pics of a Thai DC-8 might actually be a SAS aircraft operating SAS flights.

Interesting news on VS. LAX for SFO is a straight swap by the looks of it (now that the A330-200s can get to LAX which the -300s I doubt could) but that is some serious capacity growth on ATL and JFK with 450 seats a day to each.

techair 30th May 2018 17:37

I seem to remember about 12 years ago that the Thai royal flight B737 dropped by one evening.

MAN2SIN2BKK2FRA 30th May 2018 17:50


Originally Posted by techair (Post 10160910)
I seem to remember about 12 years ago that the Thai royal flight B737 dropped by one evening.

I remember that, in fact the photo from the gate showed it was the New King 10 in the left seat

ZOOKER 30th May 2018 20:21

"I'm aiming to just post routes news going forward. i'm just simply not interested in how long it takes individuals to go through security"

Well, LAX, say's it all. You're either a member of MAG Management or a 'Travel Agent'.........Or even worse....SIMON CALDER?

PS, 'Going forward' is classic 'management-speak'.

"Don't have nightmares".

LAX_LHR 30th May 2018 20:45

And your on ignore from this point forward zooker, I’m not interested in entering your childish tit for tat debacle. Adios.

Ringwayman 30th May 2018 21:15

Last couple of Thai Airways visits were 28th Oct 2013 and 13th Nov 1989.


For VS, we seem to have:
747: daily JFK, daily ATL and 12 weekly MCO = 4 based for 26 flights
A330: 2 weekly BGI, 3 weekly BOS, 3 weekly LAX, 4 weekly LAS = 2 based for 12 flights.

Aren't GLA-MCO and BFS-MCO 747 routes? That could mean they are using a MAN based 747 next year so you get 28 flights a week out of them.
MAN-SFO is 3 weekly. So either the route is getting reduced frequency or it's being culled as it can't operate using the planned A330 operations for the other routes.

ZOOKER 30th May 2018 21:26

I obviously touched a nerve LAX......Have fun.....Going forward....:E :ok:

roverman 30th May 2018 22:00


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10160810)
New Virgin route to Los Angeles starts May 22nd 2019. Boston increases to 3 weekly, Las Vegas to 4 weekly as well as B747 on daily New York and Atlanta. Barbados also sees a B747. 6 based aircraft overall.

San Fransisco gets the chop however.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/virgin...xpansion-14338

Good news. Overall it's heading in the right direction. The PR piece makes no mention of SFO getting chopped so I'll take your knowledge as good on that one, LAX.
SFO always felt like a route which wouldn't support two carriers at MAN, especially when they fly on the same days at roughly the same times. VS have blinked first, I trust MT will keep the route. These two are head to head on BOS, another thin route and will now also showdown on LAX, which should be a strong route. If my recent experience on MT is anything to go by, MAN-LAX is currently under-served.

mufc4evr 31st May 2018 08:29

LAX makes much more sense than SFO, surely if they are clever they will codeshare down to Oz with VA/DL and try to capture a share of the market

110Cornets 31st May 2018 11:57


Originally Posted by mufc4evr (Post 10161354)
LAX makes much more sense than SFO, surely if they are clever they will codeshare down to Oz with VA/DL and try to capture a share of the market

They will indeed codeshare with Virgin Australia and Delta, meaning Manchester passengers now have a new one-stop option to Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane, schedule permitting.

Oz via the US is traditionally more expensive than via Asia, but VS are selling it super cheap right now.


Logohu 31st May 2018 12:11


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10160875)
WE had a Thai B744 divert from LHR a few years back, even further back Iíve seen a pic of a Thai DC8 (I think) parked at T1 but donít know the date or circumstances as to why it was there.

15th February 1977 was the day a Thai DC-8-63 diverted to MAN from a foggy LHR. The mere sound of HS-TGZ whistling over Stockport was enough to spark a dash for the 369 bus to the airport :)

It would be great to finally see them back at MAN on a regular basis after so many years of rumoured starts - albeit this time in something a little quieter...

Betablockeruk 31st May 2018 14:24

Great to see some TATL expansion but wondered why MAN can't retain a Washington service? BMI and then UA been and gone yet DUB (2 daily) and EDI (daily) both keeping their seasonal services going. Does it require some sort of governmental use to fill the front?

I used UA to IAD for connection thru to DEN and it was one of the better US hub experiences.

roverman 31st May 2018 16:38


Originally Posted by Betablockeruk (Post 10161595)
Great to see some TATL expansion but wondered why MAN can't retain a Washington service? BMI and then UA been and gone yet DUB (2 daily) and EDI (daily) both keeping their seasonal services going. Does it require some sort of governmental use to fill the front?

I used UA to IAD for connection thru to DEN and it was one of the better US hub experiences.

EDI and DUB don't have Virgin and Thomas Cook who are collectively eating the American carriers' lunch at MAN, and the latter seem content to sit and watch them take the market. Virgin's tie-up with Delta and MT's various code share agreements have the USA pretty well covered now through a range of hubs, as well as feed at the MAN end.

FFMAN 31st May 2018 22:16


Originally Posted by Betablockeruk (Post 10161595)
Great to see some TATL expansion but wondered why MAN can't retain a Washington service? BMI and then UA been and gone yet DUB (2 daily) and EDI (daily) both keeping their seasonal services going. Does it require some sort of governmental use to fill the front?

I used UA to IAD for connection thru to DEN and it was one of the better US hub experiences.

I was a regular user of the UA to Dulles on a point to point basis - I have a lot of reasons to go there regularly. My experience was that although the flights were more or less full (incl Business First) when you de-planed at Dulles, the pax terminating at Dulles, like me, were significantly in the minority - I'm guessing most were in transit to the House of Mouse. So despite DC being one of THE great USA experiences, it doesn't seem as though there is enough business to justify the route.
Since the demise of the UA route I've been taking TCX to JFK with a JetBlue (great airline btw) codeshare to Dulles or to Reagan...it's alright actually- and good value. I'll probably try the new Baltimore service next year and train it to Union stn....we'll see

j636 31st May 2018 22:26

EDI-IAD is new and I would expect it will go like MAN in a few years. It was more a response to DY by moving capacity out of NY. You are right a lot of transit on UA IAD-Europe. Some Goverment J traffic helps the routes but insignificant..

FFMAN 31st May 2018 22:35

I know and understand the hostility that certain forumers have towards BA. They have their reasons, mainly historical and more recently that BA have developed a track record of dropping the Manchester connectors at the first sign of trouble (like bad weather). I just wanted to provide some balance.

I am now stuck in a grim hotel in the German countryside as a result of Lufthansa now employing exactly the same commercial strategy as BA..
FRA has experienced a number of weather related problems over the last day or two and has quickly cancelled Manchester flights in a similar style to BA.

I accepted a flight proposal with LH on the basis that (well according to this site) there are 5 flights a day. I had a tight connection for the teatime flight which, I thought, if I missed I could get the 'regular as clockwork' 22.10 flight.....but no.... this is non-op today..... as is the first one tomorrow...for operational convenience There are more important priorities on the network than Manchester.....does this sound like BA? So there are no flights with LH between FRA and MAN between 16.50 today and 10.05 tomorrow. The desk agent told me in no uncertain terms 'there are only 3 flights a day between Frankfurt and Manchester'.....all airlines LIE to their customers.
BA are no worse than the rest of the low lifes in the vipers nest that is the airline business these days. Even worse: they get low paid, nice enough young innocent people to do the lying for them.
My next holiday will be a holiday from flying - as long as I can possibly make it.....and an even longer holiday from LH and FRA generally.

TURIN 31st May 2018 22:45

There is usually a late FRA-MAN flight every day. It nightstops at MAN, STA about 2300hrs.

FFMAN 1st Jun 2018 05:05


Originally Posted by FFMAN (Post 10161897)
I could get the 'regular as clockwork' 22.10 flight.....but no.... this is non-op today.....

TURIN: why bother replying at all if you can't be bothered to read the post you are replying to? I know there is a late flight - I've been on it more times than I care to remember.


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