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sherburn2LA 5th Jan 2019 12:38

On the contrary if you look this thread was started as a commentary on the ongoing shambles that Manchester has become not confined to the security although that is one of the worst aspects. It is the management fan boys that have provided the thread drift.

I am far from one of the usual suspects (just 1 prior post on this thread I think) and I do think the comments provide a useful warning to many any get wider publicity than you might think. What is the point in complaining to the head or security. Do you think that the sort of f**kwittery that goes on is without his approval or even instigation? It is far and away the worst I have seen not discounting my weekly encounters with TSA.


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chaps1954 5th Jan 2019 12:46

Why go low as head of security GO TO THE TOP if you are that fed up

Ian

LAX_LHR 5th Jan 2019 13:27


Originally Posted by sherburn2LA (Post 10352579)
On the contrary if you look this thread was started as a commentary on the ongoing shambles that Manchester has become not confined to the security although that is one of the worst aspects. It is the management fan boys that have provided the thread drift.

no, this thread was started as a continuation from the old thread after the post count becomes too high, hence Manchester-2, it’s not the official ‘MAN rant’ thread, it’s for all news. And in terms of ‘management fanboys derailing the thread’, it used to run fine before the overbearing moaners reigned, so, maybe get that head out of your ar*e, yeah?


. What is the point in complaining to the head or security. Do you think that the sort of f**kwittery that goes on is without his approval or even instigation? It is far and away the worst I have seen not discounting my weekly encounters with TSA.
You say what is the point in complaining to the head of security, but what is the point in moaning on here? Warn the public? The public rarely view this website, and of the aviation professionals/avgeeks that do read the site, the vast majority don’t give a sh*t.
but, you do miss my point completely, don’t moan on here saying nothing ever changes, yet when you are given the chance to direct your complaint at one of the very few people that can make that change, then bottle it and say you are ‘too busy’. It’s like not voting in the general election and then complaining they are not doing a good job. Even if the change doesn’t happen, at least you can hold your head high and say that you tried. Too many keyboard warriors and not enough action.

A330ETOPS 5th Jan 2019 14:04

I was Operating crew last week on a 22:10 departure (From T1).

The staff channel that we take via T3 was closed so we headed up to the Pax channel. They wouldn’t let us through as apparently she “wasn’t authorised to let crew through”!

We we had to go back to T1 and through pax channel. I’ve emailed the relevant department but don’t expect any response. What an absolute joke this place is becoming !!

Flightrider 5th Jan 2019 14:58

Just to say, I have raised the issues I have encountered on two separate occasions with MAG senior management including details of dates and times. I may have time to “moan” on here but I also have time to ensure my feedback and views are clearly known. It does seem, sadly, as though even the senior management team are unable to bring any lasting influence to bear over the security shambles beyond acknowledging my views and that they hear the same feedback in other quarters.

Flightlevel001 5th Jan 2019 20:44

For those that don't know who to contact or don't have the time to, I have noticed that they've installed a couple of those 'instant feedback' podiums just after security at T3 now... brave.

Just select the face that matches your own on the way out. And if you get around the corner and realise they've got you queuing for 15/20 mins because they are decanting a BA shuttle and blocking the entire corridor, you'll have time to go back and hammer the unhappy face a few more times.

SWBKCB 6th Jan 2019 08:15

I think this issue has been done to death now - can we move on?

planedrive 6th Jan 2019 08:59

Does anyone have any idea of new routes for EZY this spring summer? Apparently they're basing another 2/3 aircraft at Manchester from Feb/March time but I haven't seen any new routes or increased frequencies announced as yet. Maybe Stuttgart if Ryanair are cancelling it (according to the RYR thread on here).

CabinCrewe 6th Jan 2019 09:10

There wont be 3 new EZY aircraft at MAN by Feb

chaps1954 6th Jan 2019 09:27

I thought it was said May/June

SWBKCB 6th Jan 2019 09:31

My understanding is that they are crewing up for 17 by the peak summer season - no idea on the timing for the arrivals.

golf yankee one one 6th Jan 2019 10:13

Ethiopian passenger figures
 
I was interested to read the Ethiopian numbers from Trav a la a few days ago. Whilst at first sight they don't look too great, this is initially a BRU and MAN service so hopefully it is viable and will steadily grow until the BRU stop can be eliminated.
Personally I feel that this is possibly the most important new route for MAN recently; although ADD/ Ethiopia are not major destinations the ET service opens up the whole continent of Africa. If the service succeeds, ET could become the preferred way to reach South Africa, Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana, Namibia, Indian Ocean islands and a host of other cities.
I have recently returned from a journey which involved 8 sectors on ET (sadly before MAN started); all were on time, the planes and the staff seemed professional and friendly, and a snack or meal was served on every leg except for a 25 minute hop. I would recommend anyone to try them.
Finally, Trav a la, please publish some more figures for their loads as time goes by.

DomyDom 6th Jan 2019 14:40


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10353250)
My understanding is that they are crewing up for 17 by the peak summer season - no idea on the timing for the arrivals.

Thanks SWBKCB. Do you have nay idea if this will involve any extra aircraft being based at MAN?

MANFOD 6th Jan 2019 15:28

As I recall, the original easyjet announcement said they were adding 2 extra based a/c for winter 18/19 making 14 based, and then a further 3 for peak summer 2019 to 17 based a/c.

The new routes introduced in winter will (unless any were winter seasonal) continue into S19, but although there has been speculation what new routes may start this summer, I'm not aware there has been any official announcement.

boredintheairport 9th Jan 2019 07:45


Originally Posted by golf yankee one one (Post 10353282)
I was interested to read the Ethiopian numbers from Trav a la a few days ago. Whilst at first sight they don't look too great, this is initially a BRU and MAN service so hopefully it is viable and will steadily grow until the BRU stop can be eliminated.
Personally I feel that this is possibly the most important new route for MAN recently; although ADD/ Ethiopia are not major destinations the ET service opens up the whole continent of Africa. If the service succeeds, ET could become the preferred way to reach South Africa, Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana, Namibia, Indian Ocean islands and a host of other cities.
I have recently returned from a journey which involved 8 sectors on ET (sadly before MAN started); all were on time, the planes and the staff seemed professional and friendly, and a snack or meal was served on every leg except for a 25 minute hop. I would recommend anyone to try them.
Finally, Trav a la, please publish some more figures for their loads as time goes by.

Assuming that in Tra Va La's figures, the right-hand most column is outbound from Manchester, it looks like over those selected dates the plane was approximately a bit less than half full leaving Manchester (seat guru said about 280 seats, but the distribution of passenger numbers between economy and business is unknown). Leaving half to be mopped up at Brussels, which doesn't seem too surprising. If this was direct it would be more concerning. The inbound figures are more concerning, though perhaps not surprising.

Severn 9th Jan 2019 14:13

EZY - Peak Summer-2019

The current schedule requires 15x based aircraft (3x A319, 12x A320) around the beginning of August, with another A320 based after the 12th August making 16x based (+4 A320 on 2018).

By the week beginning the 19th August there will be 293 departures per week which will be 51 departures per week more than the same time in 2018 including 6 new routes - ACE, BCN, BOD, BUD, FAO & LIS.

doublesix 9th Jan 2019 17:33

I personally spoke to the Captain of the Ethiopian inbound flight a couple of weeks ago and asked what the load factor was into Manchester. He replied 57 but it was not surprising with a new route. He seemed confident it would improve.

Manchester Exile 11th Jan 2019 03:55

Have the December passenger figures been released? I've searched on Google to try to find them and also trawled around the airport's website without any success. If anyone has details or a link, can you post them please?

Scottie Dog 11th Jan 2019 07:28


Originally Posted by Manchester Exile (Post 10357564)
Have the December passenger figures been released? I've searched on Google to try to find them and also trawled around the airport's website without any success. If anyone has details or a link, can you post them please?

Nothing available at this moment in time. Having said that I would expect a press release either today or maybe Monday.

BHX5DME 11th Jan 2019 12:22

http://mediacentre.magairports.com/m...ive-years-ago/


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