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Manchester Exile 12th Jan 2019 22:14

Thanks Scottie and BHX5DME. Good to see growth and I note that STN will overtake MAN in 2019.

chaps1954 13th Jan 2019 06:39

Probably not as most of Manchester traffic is in summer so more likeley next winter but there is large growth due at Manchester this year so guess
we will just have to wait and see.

southside bobby 13th Jan 2019 08:12

The pattern seems to have emerged that STN is the busier in winter & then MAN is the busier in summer,it will be interesting nonetheless to monitor events going forward as they say.

The last prediction by MAG I recollect was STN to achieve the 30m thruput by the end of the next financial year.

BHX5DME 13th Jan 2019 11:39

I think STN will have greater growth than MAN in 2019 and will reach 30m sooner.

I am aware the MAN S19 slots are way up but I see a lot of this getting handed back and growth of circa 5%

Which is still a great result.

chaps1954 13th Jan 2019 12:00

Easyjet are still working on 17 aircraft from late July and I think 10/15% rise is achievable for MAN and 30 M could happen late summer early autumn

wondersky 13th Jan 2019 21:48

STALL warning during G+B Hydraulic failure
 
Guys, it's easy to make a stall warning during G+B hydraulic, especially after the gear down, the stall warning over pitch movement gets very sensitive. Any tips to make a clean approach without hearing the nuissance of stall warning?

OltonPete 13th Jan 2019 21:59

easyjet August
 

Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10359382)
Easyjet are still working on 17 aircraft from late July and I think 10/15% rise is achievable for MAN and 30 M could happen late summer early autumn

I checked the first Monday in August and still 15 required and 17 is quite an ask with 6 months to go to the summer school holidays to add 28 frequencies a week. Is the issue available aircraft or the appropriate slots at Manchester and the "away" airport?

Pete

chaps1954 13th Jan 2019 22:33

Pete I think some more routes for August onwards to be announced, will have to wait and see

Mister Geezer 14th Jan 2019 01:32


Originally Posted by wondersky (Post 10359828)
Guys, it's easy to make a stall warning during G+B hydraulic, especially after the gear down, the stall warning over pitch movement gets very sensitive. Any tips to make a clean approach without hearing the nuissance of stall warning?

I find that actioning the G+N+T procedure with light icing conditions, provides an optimum result. :E

You might want to post this elsewhere for a more detailed response. ;)

MANFOD 14th Jan 2019 15:48

easyjet August:

Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10359834)
I checked the first Monday in August and still 15 required and 17 is quite an ask with 6 months to go to the summer school holidays to add 28 frequencies a week. Is the issue available aircraft or the appropriate slots at Manchester and the "away" airport? Pete

Pete, have you read Severn's post # 2677 above. He reckons a 16th a/c is required the w/c 12 August.
In terms of growth, it ought to be remembered that S18 was only 12 based with the increase to 14 based taking place this winter.

Nevertheless, the implication is that a 17th based frame would mean some new routes so we'll have to wait and see. My understanding is that slots have been allocated for 17 based so presumably MAN have the runway and terminal capacity and parking space.

OltonPete 14th Jan 2019 19:25

easyjet
 

Originally Posted by MANFOD (Post 10360470)
easyjet August:


Pete, have you read Severn's post # 2677 above. He reckons a 16th a/c is required the w/c 12 August.
In terms of growth, it ought to be remembered that S18 was only 12 based with the increase to 14 based taking place this winter.

Nevertheless, the implication is that a 17th based frame would mean some new routes so we'll have to wait and see. My understanding is that slots have been allocated for 17 based so presumably MAN have the runway and terminal capacity and parking space.

Thank you for the pointer, with such a large schedule it is hard work to go through all of it quickly but I have found the extra Faro on Monday making 16 aircraft and the extra Palma on a Friday making 16 from the week of the 12th but it is not yet repeated on Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday as far as I could tell (still 15) in the last week of August. Also what an odd time to add extra flights just a few weeks before the schools go back unless that is the very earliest they can source the aircraft.

Pete

The Flying Cokeman 14th Jan 2019 22:21

Regarding EZY at MAN I think you will see 18 airframes this summer and 20 in 2020. New routes coming soon are IOM and JER (moved from LPL base) and INN most likely to become an all year round route up to 3 times a week.

Skipness One Foxtrot 15th Jan 2019 00:44

What’s MAN’s biggest based carrier if EZY go to 20 based?
What’s Jet2 and Ryanair at?

Also by way of context, what was the biggest the based BA One Eleven or B732 ever got to?

Rutan16 15th Jan 2019 05:01

Skip the BA mainline JET base never got more than 6 - Yes 6 residents plus a few outstationed in Glasgow, Belfast and Edinburgh.Plus the upto two Trans Atlantic birds.

When the British Regional joined they added some of the ATPs and Jetstreams another 4 or five .

Easy Ryan and Jet2 all put BA in the shade capacity wise today.

Logohu 15th Jan 2019 05:34


Skip the BA mainline JET base never got more than 6 - Yes 6 residents plus a few outstationed in Glasgow, Belfast and Edinburgh.Plus the upto two Trans Atlantic birds.
That's right, of the 18 BAC-111-510s delivered, I recall 6 based at MAN and the other 12 at Berlin, with all 18 cycling through MAN for maintenance. When the Berlin base ran down the 12 were scattered around other UK airports. A bunch of other 1-11s were added later, mainly as a result of mergers and take overs, but were based elsewhere (mainly BHX)


When the British Regional joined they added some of the ATPs and Jetstreams another 4 or five .
And who could ever forget BACON and their collection of Dash-8s and Embraers - which unfortunately turned out to be a bit of a pig as far as BA were concerned and ended in tears :rolleyes: Then there were the BAe146s, which arrived just as the Euro carriers were all upgrading at MAN to A320s and 737NGs.

Certainly no shortage of attempts over the years by BA with a multitude of aircraft types and brandings, but none of them came close to matching the scale of today's based carriers.

roverman 15th Jan 2019 06:19


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 10360875)
Whatís MANís biggest based carrier if EZY go to 20 based?
Whatís Jet2 and Ryanair at?

Also by way of context, what was the biggest tbe based BA One Eleven or B732 ever got to?

When I worked in MAN Airfield Ops 2001-2005 we regularly parked 20+ BA aircraft overnight. Saturdays were the highest number, when fewer were away on European night-stops. I remember 26 being a regular number on Saturdays - we had to 'smart park' them, wingtips dovetailed, up on the West Apron. It was a motley collection of BAe146, ATP, E145 and a few B734s. There was also the sub-based 767 rotated from LHR doing the New York run, but that wasn't on the ground overnight.

Betablockeruk 15th Jan 2019 08:19

Manchester security got me in a load of bother this am! Gave my son all the worse case scenarios and off he went at 0445 for his 0700 flight. 30 min drive to airport.

0528 "Through security" was the 'wordy' text.

Told him to go and watch the planes. That didn't get a reply :}

Plane.Silly 15th Jan 2019 13:15


What’s MAN’s biggest based carrier if EZY go to 20 based?
What’s Jet2 and Ryanair at?
Not 100% sure ,but Jet2 would hit 20 a/c this Summer: 12x B738, 7x B752, A330 (Air Tanker lease)
Ryanair might be at 12 a/c ?

irishlad06 15th Jan 2019 13:47


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10361247)
Not 100% sure ,but Jet2 would hit 20 a/c this Summer: 12x B738, 7x B752, A330 (Air Tanker lease)
Ryanair might be at 12 a/c ?

would be Jet2 with 22 aircraft planned this summer as well as the ALC and PMI based aircraft being used for rotations.
12xB738
7xB757
2xA330-200
1xA330-300

MKY661 15th Jan 2019 19:32


Originally Posted by The Flying Cokeman (Post 10360817)
Regarding EZY at MAN I think you will see 18 airframes this summer and 20 in 2020. New routes coming soon are IOM and JER (moved from LPL base) and INN most likely to become an all year round route up to 3 times a week.

Would be quite surprised if IOM & JER are dropped from LPL, I reckon operating both routes from here and LPL would still work though.


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