Reference Palma Base, it looks like Manchester gets an 0800 departure effective 28th April 2017, increasing up to 6 x weekly as we move through May, with Birmingham also getting 1 x weekly departure from the end of May. Presumably the aircraft will then operate a 2nd daily rotation sometime around 1500 local ?

PMI aircraft
 

Correct... usually a 2nd rotation to MAN or sometimes to LBA. Still two gaps in the schedule on a Thursday and Saturday afternoon.

PMI Based aircraft

Mondays
EXS954 = PMI 08:00 – MAN 09:50 / EXS953 = MAN 10:35 – PMI 14:20
EXS786 = PMI 15:20 – MAN 17:05 / EXS785 = MAN 17:55 – PMI 21:40
Tuesday
EXS1276 = PMI 08:00 – BHX 09:35 / EXS1275 = BHX 10:50 – PMI 14:20
EXS228 = PMI 15:20 – LBA 17:05 / EXS227 = LBA 17:55 – PMI 21:40
Wednesdays
EXS954 = PMI 08:00 – MAN 09:50 / EXS953 = MAN 10:35 – PMI 14:20
EXS786 = PMI 15:20 – MAN 17:05 / EXS785 = MAN 17:55 – PMI 21:40
Thursdays
EXS954 = PMI 08:00 – MAN 09:50 / EXS953 = MAN 10:35 – PMI 14:20
Fridays
EXS954 = PMI 08:00 – MAN 09:50 / EXS953 = MAN 10:35 – PMI 14:20
EXS786 = PMI 15:20 – MAN 17:05 / EXS785 = MAN 17:55 – PMI 21:40
Saturdays
EXS954 = PMI 08:00 – MAN 09:50 / EXS953 = MAN 10:35 – PMI 14:20
Sunday
EXS954 = PMI 08:00 – MAN 09:50 / EXS953 = MAN 10:35 – PMI 14:20
EXS228 = PMI 15:20 – LBA 17:05 / EXS227 = LBA 17:55 – PMI 21:40

Never knew Jet2 had summer bases in Spain, until I read the above. Sounds similar to what easyJet are doing in Palma, having a few aircraft based there for the summer season.

I struggle to see the benefit if the Palma based aircraft is flying to existing bases, which could operate from the UK bases to Majorca.

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for Jet2 to operate to other UK regional airports where they have no base. Maybe like Humberside, Southampton, Cardiff, Exeter and Norwich, operating 1-2 flights a week.

The benefits are you can employ people on cheap seasonal contracts and also free up UK based aircraft either to operate more flights, or you could use it to downsize UK bases. Watch closely, youll see his happen at another airline in the coming 2/3 years.

FAO/PMI/ALC/AGP/BCN bases would allow a significant reduction in UK based units or even bases. The lives of crews ruined, the pockets of the board lined with gold. But never cheaper prices for the consumer.

If J2hols wanted marginal locations they could buy seats on already operating flights. It'll be easier to fill 20/30 seats than an entire craft.

It probably gives them better flexibility to their schedules and allows them to fly higher frequencies to/from PMI.

PMI, as well as ALC where they also base an aircraft over the summer, are probably the two most popular destinations for Jet2.

It makes much more sense to allocate an aircraft to each of those airports to provide additional frequencies to several of their UK bases, rather than say in MAN or LBA where they'll inevitably spend more time flying much thinner routes out of those airports.

Another positive for basing aircraft in ALC and PMI, is if an aircraft goes tech downroute, a replacement is a lot closer than it would be having to come from a UK base to say the canaries or Portugal.

Not when the based aircraft are flying all day it doesn't. It's flying all day from 08:00 to 21:40 LT so I can't see it being used as some kind of hot spare like the ALC one is.

Probably be more than one!

Is it easier to get the slots and gates at MAN at 1030 than at say 0700-0800?

MAN next summer will have 6xb752 operating, 1xa330 and between 10 and 12 B738 at any one stage including 2x standby 800's. There will no longer be any 300's based after April in MAN.

anothertyke. I usually only visit Manchester two or three times a year and it has always been much quieter from about 10a.m. as the based fleets have departed. So parking stands for inbounds are certainly more numerous, if not plentiful.

I wonder if any 300's will leave the fleet this winter, I've heard it was going to be 5 but one that was supposed to leave last winter (LS) didn't so it could be 6?

Jethros site is usually the best site for info like that but has no news at present

Mooncrest--- yes I was thinking that about the only way of increasing peak capacity at LBA in the summer without spades in the ground would be to operate from the other end. Obviously the mix and capacity is a bit different at Manchester but from what you say the same might be true.

6 or 7 733's will leave the fleet during the winter season is the plan for now.

Will that not depend on how many new B738's arrive by the end of the winter season, especially with Birmingham supposed to be having an all new fleet of 4 x B738's operating?

based on faro ? next summer?

Basing aircraft at Palma is about getting slots on the Spanish island. To increase capacity the 330 will be going every day. Palma can not handle any more in bounds in the morning once the first wave from Northern Europe starts to arrive. No slots are available.

Agreed, the problem is a combination of a lack of slots at both Palma and Manchester. By basing an aircraft in PMI you avoid the peak times at both ends.

So NCL is remaining at 7 A/C again... Third time we've been getting 8 and it hasn't materialised

EK77. Count yourself lucky. Down the road at HQ we have up to 10 aircraft active plus 1 or 2 on standby and up to 2 in the hangar. More often than not there are insufficient stands for all these, plus Ryanair, Monarch etc (and yet they keep on sending them...)

i was under the thought that one of NCLs 733s would be a 738 next year but maybe not.

The hanger at Manchester has officially been anounced. Mention was made of the purchase of the new 737's and FURTHER USED aircraft.

What chance of getting an Airbus 330 type rating on my licence?

Aren't NCL due for some of the -300s to become -800s? It's a cheaper way of increasing capacity and I can't imagine the -800s are vastly more expensive to fly than the -300s but with the benefit of an extra 30ish punters in the back could be great for the economics of the base. Initially growing the numbers further without the need to go through the expensive of having an 8th plane.

I think there's less chance of LS shutting the base and operating from cheaper foreign bases which the other LCC at NCL is planning on doing.

Anyone know where Jet2 are going to fly their new aircraft? There could be some interesting new destinations with the lack of (understandable!) enthusiasm for Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey etc. Iceland, Cape Verde, Canada...?

Spain, Spain and Spain.

I can see Cape Verde. Does anyone know if the 737 will make it there, and if it is possible to do a there and back? I'm not sure if it's doable in a day.

Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, have you been watching the news lately? ;) Iceland is dominated by ever expanding Icelandair and WOW air. Cape Verde and Canada are too far to be operated properly with the current fleet.


The first ones are to open the new Birmingham base as well as replacing older aircraft.

There;s a couple of untapped city breaks I think they could make a go of.

Sicily and Sardinia could be expanded, as could the Greek Islands. They may even venture to La Palma? Or maybe the Azores might work from MAN?

They haven't touched Bulgaria yet, Iceland must be on it's way, and I hope they have Morocco in the back of their heads

I'd love to see Cape Verde to be honest... Fingers crossed...

And of course there are a lot of frequency upgauges that could be done, and they can't go wrong with Spanish cities, there's a multitude they could take a pop at... Maybe even Gibraltar!

Great news jet 2 got the monarch hangar ...rumour is next closure is monarchs ltn hangar

Picture of the first of the brand new 737-800's being built in Seattle.

Any idea what livery they will be in? I assume a mixture of both

I think I'm right in saying that 737 rudders are attached already painted, so looks like jet2.com rather than jet2 holidays.

First one to be delivered in September will be in Jet2 silver and red livery. The following four to be delivered in October and November will be in Jet2holidays livery.

It is very encouraging to hear the Jet2 and Jet2 holidays are expanding and doing so well but if that is the case then why are the parent company shares doing so badly?

Down by almost a half today since the all time high.

Have the masters of the universe in their red braces got it wrong again or is there a real concern about the long term viability of Dart Group?

Compare the group and look at the others and airlines alike.

Ryanair and Easyjet aren't high compared to what they once were.
As long as the make money each year that is what counts

I see that Titan are to acquire an A330. I wonder if this will be the Jet2 aircraft next year ?


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Price today about 475, highest price was 677 in the spring.

Unless you have been to Mars and back I am sure you are aware of Brexit.

This will obviously have an effect in the short term with the drop in the value of the pound against the Dollar (purchase of fuel and new aircraft) and the Euro (purchase of hotel rooms, transport, nave charges, airport and handling fees etc in Europe)

The price reduction in the value of shares is also nearer a third and not a half.

I was wondering the same thing about Titan's A330 acquisition, as Jet2 seem to have a good working relationship with Titan. It is feasible.