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take-off 9th Feb 2012 10:58

Anybody know whats p with ALicante flight from blackpool? Was supposed to have departed at 9:05, see it was still sat outside airport terminal at 10am, with not alot going on around it, when i went in morrisons, see on aena its now showing an arrival time of 18:44 now, instead of 13:00.

LBIA 9th Feb 2012 13:08

Today's Jet2 BLK-ALC service LS739 is now been operated out of LBA. Passengers are on there way now. It has estimated departure time of 15:20

I understand that the inbound LS740 will also be diverted into LBA and is expected to arrive at 21:45. Passengers will then been coached back to BLK.


take-off 11th Feb 2012 06:01

Was there an issue with yesterdays tfs flight from BLk too, see it was showing a midnight arrival back, did it go back to a different base?

TSR2 12th Feb 2012 16:03

I have been monitoring the Jet2 prices on seats between Manchester and Faro during June before, during and after their recent 10% discount event.

24 hours before the discount began, the outbound headline fare was 95.99.

During the 10% discount event the headline fare increased to 105.99.

Within 24 hours of the end of the discount, the headline fare returned to 95.99.

Similar situation with return fares.

Con trick or what?

MUFC_fan 12th Feb 2012 21:31

Con trick or what?
Tell that to Tesco, John Lewis, Currys, River Island and all the other household names on the UK high street.

It's how the world works. You really think that the companies knock that much money off of goods?

DFS would have been out of business years ago...

TSR2 13th Feb 2012 09:03

Tell that to Tesco, John Lewis, Currys, River Island and all the other household names on the UK high street.
I must disagree with you on this one. The high street stores generally offer price reductions against their current stated prices. Jet2 in this instance have, in my opinion, deliberately raised their price in order to offer a discount. They would not be able to get away with policy if they had called it a sale.

chaps2011 13th Feb 2012 09:33

TSR2 I agree with MUFC_fan and I work in the retail industry, reductions
are made on the highest price which may only be sold for a short period each
You need a degree in maths and a good memory to get the good offers plus
plenty of spare time


LBIA 18th Feb 2012 13:25

Just out of interest which Jet2 flight crews have been flying the Boeing 737-800, G-GDFF out of Leeds all this week..

Is it been done by Manchester crews or Leeds/Bradford's own based crews?

Penworth 18th Feb 2012 14:49

Mainly Manchester crews as very few pilots at Leeds have been checked out on it yet. Took the 189 seat FF to Belfast the other day with 30 passengers on board - guess they just want to use it on short routes while they get used to operating it out of Leeds.

MKY661 18th Feb 2012 18:03

Wernt they going to base the two 737-800W (The two currently at MAN) at GLA and then base the remaining three 737-800 (two which have yet to be delivered) at MAN?, or is this for the summer season.

MD11Man 19th Feb 2012 20:19

MKY661, been told that the 2 MAN based 800's will operate from GLA this summer. Mainly because they have winglets, which increases the range.

MAN will then get (non winglet) 800's. No idea how many though...

OliWW 19th Feb 2012 20:29

They dont increase range, they just reduce fuel burn, which means less is required, and the distance between GLA and MAN really wont make a massive amount of distance on a flight to the Canaries or Greece, they will move aircraft around based on flying hours and maintenance requirements.

Check Mags On 19th Feb 2012 21:30

Range is a function of fuel on board.
If you burn less fuel, you can go further.

Edited for simplication.

Beavis and Butthead 20th Feb 2012 07:09

They dont increase range, they just reduce fuel burn
Run that past me again why that doesn't increase range?

OliWW 20th Feb 2012 12:18

At least someones on the ball!! An airline would not chose to put winglets on an aircraft in a bid to increase range but reduce drag and fuel usage, it only increases range by something like 3.5%, which is nothing.

I'm Off! 20th Feb 2012 12:42

Errrr, doesn't the percentage reduction in fuel burn directly correlate to the resultant percentage increase in range?

I'll give you a hint - the answer is yes...

Facelookbovvered 20th Feb 2012 12:51

OliWW is correct
Jet2 did not fit light weight seats to some of their aircraft to allow them to fly further, but to reduce burn! Any slight increase in range is a secondary function of the first, put it another way they didn't to it to fly an extra 100 miles south of Lanzagroty (clue there's nothing there) if this were a CAA exam, both answer would be correct, but lower fuel burn would be more correct 2 points to OliWW

Check Mags On 20th Feb 2012 14:17

We all know why airlines put winglets on and it is to save fuel.
But OilWW specifically stated that it does not increase range.

It does increase range. The fact that the extra 100nm or so doesn't take you anywhere useful is irrelevant. Winglets reduce cost and that is the main benefit.
But it is capable of flying further.

Take for example a long route.
That 4% could well be the difference between non-stop and tech stop.
Without winglets the extra burn may mean a trade off between payload and fuel.

Beavis and Butthead 20th Feb 2012 15:39

I give up! :ugh: too many pro's on here! Must remember, less fuel burn doesn't increase range.

Facelookbovvered .... No one mentioned why Jet2 fitted the seats or winglets. I've no doubt it was to save fuel. Different subject. What was stated was that whilst winglets reduce fuel burn, they don't increase range. Really?

I have tech stopped several times when headwinds make a usually direct flight not quite (and I mean not quite) possible. In these circumstances we use methods like reducing contingency fuel from 5% to 3% using an enroute alternate which can often make the difference. Why bother when OliWW says '3.5% is nothing'? (tell the company that!) 4% of a full fuel load on my flight would be an extra 750kg which is an extra 20 mins flying and can easily make all the difference when the elements are against you. Range is directly linked to how much juice you burn. It really is that simple. But what do I know?

Check Mags On 20th Feb 2012 15:47

B&B is spot on that 750kg can and does make all the difference.
I tend not to think of fuel in Kg, as such. To me it is time aloft.
You want to hold for an hour. You need 2.5t ish for a 737.

There are lots of methods used to reduce the fuel load required for the trip, as B&B has mentioned. Winglets are but one of them.

OliWW 20th Feb 2012 19:52

On a typical flight to TFS, in tanks, I'd say from experience, about 12,000kg, and 3-3.5% would be between 360-400kg which is about 10 minutes flying time if that depending on the weight of payload, it hardly makes a difference to an aircraft range, but as the cost of that 360-400kg of fuel rises, it will make a difference to the back pocket of jet2 for sure. Fuel, not range, to jet2 is quite obviously the critical issue at the moment, they seem incredibly concerned over the fuel efficency of its aircraft that Rolls Royce are being called in over engine washing facilities and overhaul.

Check Mags On 20th Feb 2012 20:54

Aviation Partners Inc. - Seattle WA - Blended Winglets for Boeing 737, 757, and 767

We all know that the main reason for winglets is fuel saving.
But they do increase the range, even if only by a small amount.
Increased range for a given fuel is a saving.

If you won't believe me or B&B then believe the people who make them for Boeing.
Right hand side about half way down "Increased payload-range"
For a given payload the aircraft will fly further with winglets than without.

OliWW 20th Feb 2012 21:03

From what ive clearly seen its not that I don't believe anyone. but quite clearly, isnt in jet2s interest to increase range nor most airlines.

Check Mags On 20th Feb 2012 21:26

But that is not what you said. You said winglets do not increase range.
They do.

Every pilot who goes to work at Jet2 or any other airline is aware of not wasting fuel.

bluepilot 20th Feb 2012 21:49

could you take your technical discussion elsewhere please?

Lsflyer 22nd Feb 2012 21:43

ive noticed that you can no longer book istanbul for summer 2012 and is no longer a destination? anyone shed any light on this?

LBIA 22nd Feb 2012 22:07


With Turkish Airlines increasing its current daily Manchester-Istanbul flights to 10x times weekly from next month, and Air Blue serving Istanbul SAW 3x times weekly. It looks to have forced Jet2 to drop there plans of serving the Manchester-Istanbul route 2x times weekly.

mikkie4 22nd Feb 2012 22:36

with the turkey flights from pegasus possibly moving from stansted to luton,and jet2 starting flights for the ford motor company to turkey on the 12 march from southend,could there be an opening for a regular passenger flight?

HH6702 25th Feb 2012 21:45

New York
Does anybody know when JET2 will put the xmas shopping new york flights on sale for december 2012??

dcten 27th Feb 2012 06:05

Germania or Jet2 to start flights to Turkey ?

rumair999 27th Feb 2012 21:26

Germania do operate flights to Turkey.. from Germany..

Espada III 5th Mar 2012 20:02

Change of Aircraft?
The usual Jet2 flight to Tel Aviv is on a B757-200 with (I think) about 42 rows of seats. The flights next week are showing a plane with only 33 rows on teh seat booking diagram. Does this mean a B737? and if so, which model?

LPFR 5th Mar 2012 21:46

There have been quite a few 738 operating the Tel Aviv flights, so yes, it most likely will be.

42 rows - 757-200
33 rows - 737-800
26 rows - 737-300

Espada III 6th Mar 2012 06:14


Do the emergency exit seats at rows 16 and 17 on the 737-800 have significantly more legroom?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 6th Mar 2012 08:37

They certainly have a reasonable amount of additional legroom:ok:, you need to quantify "significant" before I'd be prepared to vouch for that.

jet2impress 6th Mar 2012 08:55

There is more legroom at the over wing exits on the 737-800 than there is in the forward cabin extra legroom rows on the 757-200.

There is an extra tray table for the arm rest of the 737-800 exit rows as the seat in front is a bit of a stretch to use the tray table.

The over wing exit rows are better than the extra legroom at the front. No one invading your space whilst queuing for the loos. :E

Espada III 6th Mar 2012 10:42

Thanks - very helpful.

LBIA 7th Mar 2012 14:43

for anyone interested Jet2 have just put this years Christmas Shopping trips to New York - Newark on sale today.

Flights will be operating from Leeds/Bradford x2, Newcastle x2 and East Midlands x1. It looks like the Glasgow trips has been dropped this year.

Departure dates

Leeds/Bradford = Thursday, Nov 29th & Thursday, Dec 6th
Newcastle = Thursday, Nov 29th & Thursday, Dec 6th
East Midlands = Thursday, Nov 15th

purplehelmet 7th Mar 2012 15:51

i heard today that jet2 have acquired another b752, can anyone confirm this? plus any details ie.where from,due date. thanks.

DjerbaDevil 7th Mar 2012 18:49

i heard today that jet2 have acquired another b752, can anyone confirm this? plus any details ie.where from,due date. thanks.
There has been a very large increase in the JET2 fleet for next summer. 26 x B733s + 5 x B738s + 13 B752s with the new addition. Over and above there is an A320 leased for the summer to be stationed in Manchester to cover any technical problems and avoid delays.

The newly acquired B752 is rumoured to be coming either from Astraeus or Open Skies. The bets are on Open Skies as the deal is likely to be much better. The reason is that the Open Skies aircraft need a total refit, new seats new layout, etc., which most airlines would not even consider. Whereas JET2 refurbish all their aircraft.

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