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irishlad06 22nd Jul 2017 02:29

New aircraft deliveries
 
This winters new aircraft deliveries should see another 15 aircraft before the start of the summer season, the registrations will begin GJZB? The first one GJZBA is to be delivered at the beginning of October, current estimates are the 13th with GJZBB at the end of Oct. the 4 additional aircraft ordered on top of the initial order of 30 are to be delivered from Aug 2018 to January 2019.

A320ECAM 23rd Jul 2017 13:00

Guys, isn't it time Jet2 upgrade all of their aircraft?

The aircraft with the decompression the other day from IBZ-LBA, a 734, was 30.9 years old!

Jet2 have had quite a few incidents lately. If they keep this up, the Swiss cheese will eventually align! Time for an upgrade me thinks.

LiamNCL 23rd Jul 2017 13:41

Isnt the idea of the new 738s to phase these 733s out sooner rather than later ?

inOban 23rd Jul 2017 13:42

Now they are moving from a mainly summer-only business to an AYR one, the business case for newer frames becomes much stronger.

chaps1954 23rd Jul 2017 18:12

By this winter most of the 300s will have gone as there are still a lot of 738 to be delivered
Takes a while as pilots need to be retrained along with ground crews etc

Jerry123 23rd Jul 2017 18:17


Originally Posted by A320ECAM (Post 9839593)
Guys, isn't it time Jet2 upgrade all of their aircraft?

The aircraft with the decompression the other day from IBZ-LBA, a 734, was 30.9 years old!

Jet2 have had quite a few incidents lately. If they keep this up, the Swiss cheese will eventually align! Time for an upgrade me thinks.

They are, they received new 737 8s during the winter and still have 15 to be delivered the winter coming up with 4 more after August 2018 and they might buy or lease some more second hand ones. Hopefully they'll have enough left over to keep on expanding and adding new bases.

inOban 23rd Jul 2017 18:35

Are you sure? They announced one extra 738 for EDI next year, which would suggest that 3 of the six based a/c would still be 300s.

RAFAT 23rd Jul 2017 19:54

chaps1954 - Some, not most of the 300s will go. Retraining doesn't take long, it's a simple differences course.

Mr @ Spotty M 23rd Jul 2017 20:06

A320ECAM
 
The oldest of the B737-300 are just under 31 years old, however some of the B757s are only a year younger.
You need to realise that some of the worlds B737-300 are in fact younger than some of the B737-800 Jet2 operate.
Providing the aircraft are maintained correctly as Jet2 do so, airframe age is irrelevant, the issue is more down to components that fail more with age, which is most likely what happened on the incident recently.

chaps1954 23rd Jul 2017 20:57

At least 14 new 738 due by spring next year, I know there are more aircraft due for BHX,
MAN and probably others which will be 738 but would expect 8 to probably go
G-CELA has just been retired with probably the other G-CEL* range going next as there
is quite a gap to the G-GDF* in general ( not all) of about 6 to 8 years with the oldest
738 delivered late 98

GLAinsider 23rd Jul 2017 21:08


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 9838276)
This winters new aircraft deliveries should see another 15 aircraft before the start of the summer season, the registrations will begin GJZB? The first one GJZBA is to be delivered at the beginning of October, current estimates are the 13th with GJZBB at the end of Oct. the 4 additional aircraft ordered on top of the initial order of 30 are to be delivered from Aug 2018 to January 2019.

Are you sure about thst? Surely the new registrations will follow on from G-DRTA and G-DRTB.

MKY661 23rd Jul 2017 22:18


G-CELA has just been retired with probably the other G-CEL* range going next as there
is quite a gap to the G-GDF* in general ( not all) of about 6 to 8 years with the oldest
738 delivered late 98
My guess is that G-CELH/I & V will stay for a bit longer as these were fitted with Winglets a few years ago. That leaves 7 G-CEL* 733's so I assume it will be them to go, not 100% sure like.


Originally Posted by GLAinsider (Post 9839974)
Are you sure about thst? Surely the new registrations will follow on from G-DRTA and G-DRTB.

Jethro has them stated as G-JZB*.

GLAinsider 23rd Jul 2017 22:40

Maybe they have got the entire G-JZxx range giving 625 registrations including the existing G-JZHx range. They can't use G-JZAx, G-JZFx, G-JZLx or G-JZTx because they need to keep the last two letters unique (as the a/c are commonly referred to that way) and they clash with the existing registration ranges (G-LSAx, G-GDFx, G-CELx and G-DRTx).

LiamNCL 23rd Jul 2017 23:03

So does anyone have any idea where the 733's will be next Summer ?

BFS BHD 23rd Jul 2017 23:09


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 9840045)
So does anyone have any idea where the 733's will be next Summer ?

Three based at BFS.

Jet2_738 24th Jul 2017 01:04

Was looking at the CAAs G-INFO and noticed of the 16 new a/c currently received from Boeing, 6 are registered as owned by Dart Group PLC (HJ/L/N/O/R/S), 3 as owned by Dart Leasing and Finance LTD (HM/T/U), and the other 7 are registered as chartered by Jet2.com (HK/P/V/W/X/Y/Z)

Not Jessica Fletcher by any means, just wondering what the difference in ownership meant - or whether its just a case of balancing the books?

irishlad06 24th Jul 2017 05:24


Originally Posted by GLAinsider (Post 9839974)
Are you sure about thst? Surely the new registrations will follow on from G-DRTA and G-DRTB.

Certain, the DRT x range are second hand 800's.

LBIA 24th Jul 2017 08:36

LBA next summer 2018

13+ Operational
4x B733 (+2 spare back up)
6x B738
3x B752 (+1 spare back up)

TSR2 24th Jul 2017 08:43


Retraining doesn't take long, it's a simple differences course.
That is the big mistake British Midland made with the B734.

LGS6753 24th Jul 2017 10:07


just wondering what the difference in ownership meant - or whether its just a case of balancing the books?
Owned by Dart Group = owned and on the balance sheet.
Owned by Dart Leasing & Finance = off the balance sheet (probably)
Chartered = owned by a third party and definitely off the balance sheet.

GLAinsider 24th Jul 2017 11:24


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 9840139)
Certain, the DRT x range are second hand 800's.

Well all the G-JZHx range are not new prior to HJ.

yeo valley 24th Jul 2017 15:24

page 201 I'm getting. sorry didn't look to see what was on there.

garry8g 24th Jul 2017 15:30


Originally Posted by yeo valley (Post 9840597)
page 201 I'm getting. sorry didn't look to see what was on there.

Thanks, got it fixed.....went back to the original post (page 1) and saved link....seems to be working okay now!

Jet2_738 24th Jul 2017 15:43


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 9840331)
Owned by Dart Group = owned and on the balance sheet.
Owned by Dart Leasing & Finance = off the balance sheet (probably)
Chartered = owned by a third party and definitely off the balance sheet.

Thanks very much :ok:

GLAinsider 24th Jul 2017 16:20

New registrations will start with G-JZBx. They are already configured in the ops system.

castleford tiger 25th Jul 2017 16:07

total chaos today with so many flights yesterday diverting to canaries as FUNCHAL was closed and nearest island was full.
Lisbon took BA but the one question guys please is
#A 737 ( not sure which type) left BCN to go to FNC.


It stayed in the area for ever before diverting to Gran Canaria and landed 7.08 hours after t/o.
Is that a record? I always felt 5 ish was the limit.


Today loads of Aircraft in the wrong spots so much disruption.


regards


Tiger

Brigantee 25th Jul 2017 20:56

"Frames" ...what all that about ? engines removed were they??

milhouse999 28th Jul 2017 16:06

Another in flight depressurisation

Just picked this up via the wonders of Facebook (a friend of a friend is onboard) - G-CELI from NCL to PRG has diverted to FRA due to a depressurisation. Two in as many weeks for the ageing Jet2 fleet...

EDIT: This is the same aircraft as the one last week.

http://i.imgur.com/x9sIUpS.jpg

Mooncrest 28th Jul 2017 17:34

Oh boy. I expect the Jet2 Board will be more than a little dischuffed to see this picture.

Artie Fufkin 28th Jul 2017 21:23

I like the chap in the top lefthand corner of the picture who doesn't appear to see the need for using the oxygen.

mr_moose 29th Jul 2017 17:11

Not exactly great PR - Fourth biggest story on BBC News right now

Second emergency landing for Jet2 plane in two weeks - BBC News

gilesdavies 29th Jul 2017 17:17

G-CELI - First registered to Lufthansa in 1986, wow never knew Jet2's aircraft are of this vintage!
http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-23526.htm

A 31 year old aircraft operating for a low cost airline, and which will no doubt have a very high daily utilisation at this time of year, are two combinations that don't go well together... Got to give it to Jet2 they really do know how flog dead horse!

Mulholland 29th Jul 2017 17:22

Jet 2
 
Old planes requiring heavy maintenence, which fails qa checks, repeated failures, management failures and poor management.

What on earth are the CAA playing at - revoke the licence before its too late.





QUOTE=mr_moose;9846100]Not exactly great PR - Fourth biggest story on BBC News right now

Second emergency landing for Jet2 plane in two weeks - BBC News[/QUOTE]

inOban 29th Jul 2017 17:30

It will be used intensively for about 4 months each year, less so for another 3 and hardly at all for the winter, when they will only use the newer ones.

mr_moose 29th Jul 2017 20:38

Here is G-CELI back in 1989! Certainly looks vintage in that livery. Bought in 2004 they certainly have had their money out of this old bird!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aero_icarus/14265216064

eggc 29th Jul 2017 21:12

I flew on LSAJ last week, at the grand old age of 29.5 years...but I guarantee 99% of pax would never have known ! It looked good inside and was a perfect flight. I knew it's seen younger days and is heavily used (certainly in summers), but didn't worry one bit about getting on it. Not sure what all the fuss is about TBH. These things are very well looked after.

Council Van 29th Jul 2017 21:33


Originally Posted by gilesdavies (Post 9846105)
no doubt have a very high daily utilisation at this time of year,

No, not really. Only 4 sectors a day.

Rich3 31st Jul 2017 12:16

Key summer 2018 programme information:

London Stansted

33 destinations including 8 new summer hotspots: Bodrum, Costa de Almeria, Halkidiki, Kefalonia and Verona (already announced) and Malta, Naples and Nice (announced today).
280 weekly flights and more than 1.4 million seats available, a 60% growth on Summer 17
Addition of three aircraft meaning ten aircraft operating from London Stansted Airport

Phantom Phixer 31st Jul 2017 17:59

Hi,
Does anyone know why G-LSAI operating LS743 was so late out of MAN yesterday (30072017)?

VickersVicount 31st Jul 2017 18:20

Whats going on at STN, that seems a phenomenal increase in routes and based aircraft. Who is it up against in terms of competition (or do they know something we dont?) abd do they have the staff to cope?
Interesting.


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