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El Bunto 7th Aug 2017 08:47


Maybe read a book (a real, paper book!) next time?
Eeek!

Have you seen the hardness and density of modern hardback novels? And those pointy corners... Rather more dangerous as an unintended projectile in an emergency than a phone.

compton3bravo 7th Aug 2017 11:45

Buy a magazine for God's sake of just sit quietly for 20 minutes or so it is not difficult honest!

Waldo1 7th Aug 2017 18:32

Why can't we just keep our devices on? I mean apart from it giving everyone something to moan about....oh and while I'm on my Moany streak why do flybe still shake you awake like a demon cos you dare to keep your tiny EarPods in....🙄😡

Flying Wild 7th Aug 2017 18:51


Originally Posted by Waldo1 (Post 9854993)
Why can't we just keep our devices on? I mean apart from it giving everyone something to moan about....oh and while I'm on my Moany streak why do flybe still shake you awake like a demon cos you dare to keep your tiny EarPods in....����

'cos them's the rules.

Don't blame the crew. They're just doing their job each day following the rules imposed on them by the company. If you want to make/change the rules, you can do so when you're the boss.

Waldo1 7th Aug 2017 22:08


Originally Posted by Flying Wild (Post 9855008)
'cos them's the rules.

Don't blame the crew. They're just doing their job each day following the rules imposed on them by the company. If you want to make/change the rules, you can do so when you're the boss.

Anyone got a better answer than this.....seeing as the CAA take the lead on issuing this guidance, why are the airlines not all implementing it?

LBAflyer22 7th Aug 2017 23:01

Regardless it is the airline who makes the rules as an adaptation of the civil aviation authorities ruling. In this case Jet2 want ALL customers to have their device OFF for takeoff and landing which as people have said above is not hard.

You, have clearly wanted to disobey a crew order, which with Jet2 may result in you been told your a disruptive passenger and potentially you could be banned from flying. :ok:

Council Van 8th Aug 2017 01:03


Originally Posted by Waldo1 (Post 9854993)
Moany streak why do flybe still shake you awake like a demon cos you dare to keep your tiny EarPods in....����

Making you take them out might just save your life if something goes horribly wrong.

Next time you are asked to remove them by a member of cabin crew don't forger to apologise and thank them for pointing out your oversight!:ok:

Flying Wild 8th Aug 2017 07:41


Originally Posted by Council Van (Post 9855276)
Making you take them out might just save your life if some thing goes horribly wrong.

Next time you are asked to remove them by a member of cabin crew don't forger to apologise and thank them for pointing out your oversight!:ok:

Yes, I agree. Whilst the cabin crew do come down the aisle with their trollies selling you food and drink, let's not forget that they are there primarily FOR YOUR SAFETY.

If they ask you to do something, they are doing so with the delegated authority of the aircraft captain, who under the Air Navigation Order is solely responsible for the safety of the aircraft and all on board. Disobeying a 'request' by the cabin crew can, as intimated above, lead to action by the captain (with the full backing of Jet2), up to and including diversion, offload and arrest.

mudcity 8th Aug 2017 10:00

Any truth in the rumour that the A330 will be doing some flying this winter for Jet2 ? ( apart from the STN-EWR )

Mooncrest 8th Aug 2017 10:17


Originally Posted by mudcity (Post 9855661)
Any truth in the rumour that the A330 will be doing some flying this winter for Jet2 ? ( apart from the STN-EWR )

I expect so, after all it wouldn't make any sense to extend the lease for the aircraft only to be making a few TA flights. My guess is it will be deployed largely on Canary Island flights from the likes of Manchester and Stansted, with some regular maintenance downtime thrown in.

milhouse999 8th Aug 2017 15:04

G-CELI which has been in Frankfurt ever since it diverted there for 2 decompresions in a week is showing as travelling back to Leeds today on FR24.

castleford tiger 8th Aug 2017 17:08

I think a few planes out of Doncaster might just shake Leeds up a bit.
the service at Leeds is dire with a half mile walk to the Faro flight .
Why they have not built along that elevation god only knows. Doncaster road link is better and it does not suffer with so many diversions in periods of stormy weather.
They could then drop in there if the wind or fog was too bad and move psg by road.
It would stand 4 aircraft at the least.
tiger

SWBKCB 8th Aug 2017 17:46


Originally Posted by milhouse999 (Post 9855974)
G-CELI which has been in Frankfurt ever since it diverted there for 2 decompresions in a week is showing as travelling back to Leeds today on FR24.

Currently en route, and if FR24 is correct, cruising at 24,000ft

G-FORZ 8th Aug 2017 17:50


Originally Posted by castleford tiger (Post 9856095)
I think a few planes out of Doncaster might just shake Leeds up a bit.
It would stand 4 aircraft at the least.
tiger

DSA management would not want to upset/lose TUI, Jet2 would not want to lose the deals they have with MAG for MAN and EMA. If you want to use Jet2 out of Yorkshire, you will need to endure LBA for the foreseeable.

Marra123 8th Aug 2017 19:43

I am travelling to Palma from Newcastle in September on the Saturday evening flight which looks to be operated by EC-IDT which is the Palma based Air Europa 737. I was just wondering if anybody knows if this has Jet2 crew and Jet2 interior?

VickersVicount 8th Aug 2017 19:45

I wouldnt have thought it would have a Jet2 interior!

flyby1 8th Aug 2017 20:01


Originally Posted by Marra123 (Post 9856242)
I am travelling to Palma from Newcastle in September on the Saturday evening flight which looks to be operated by EC-IDT which is the Palma based Air Europa 737. I was just wondering if anybody knows if this has Jet2 crew and Jet2 interior?

Yes this has jet2 cabin crew based out in pmi. I believe the aircraft has jet2 seating. But someone will know for sure.

Waldo1 8th Aug 2017 22:52


Originally Posted by Nicholas_1992 (Post 9855236)
Regardless of your below post it is the airline who makes the rules as an adaptation of the civil aviation authorities ruling. In this case Jet2 want ALL customers to have their device OFF for takeoff and landing which as people have said above is not hard.

You, have clearly wanted to disobey a crew order, which with Jet2 may result in you been told your a disruptive passenger and potentially you could be banned from flying. :ok:

Be grateful I'm not crew and i wasn't crew on your flight because i would of ensured you'd of turned your phone off.

2 points, I haven't been on a j2 flight in about 15 years so I don't know who u are talking to and can I remind u that we are all the customers.....

Waldo1 8th Aug 2017 23:06


Originally Posted by Nicholas_1992 (Post 9856409)
We certainly are all customers. However like i pointed out, and backed up by flying wild, disobeying crew orders on Jet2 could result you been banned.

It was you who initially brought it up about your mobile been turned off completley for a maximum of 20 minutes. Whilst the rest of us are more then happy to oblige.
I will leave this here.

Think ur talking about someone else mate.....

irishlad06 9th Aug 2017 02:19


Originally Posted by flyby1 (Post 9856256)
Yes this has jet2 cabin crew based out in pmi. I believe the aircraft has jet2 seating. But someone will know for sure.

Hi, yes the aircraft has the jet2 seats inside this year as well as all other long term leased in aircraft apart from the Titan A321. It is however only configured to Y186 and not Y189 per other jet2 B738's. It's in work today so if I can get you some photos I will and PM them to you. The cabin crew are all jet2.com cabin crew, mostly from the UK seconded to Palma for the summer. The flight deck are Air Europa flight deck.

garry8g 9th Aug 2017 17:55

I see that Jethros is reporting that B737-300 G-CELK will be one of the first 300's to be withdrawn from use at the end of October 17.

Mooncrest 9th Aug 2017 20:32


Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 9857272)
I see that Jethros is reporting that B737-300 G-CELK will be one of the first 300's to be withdrawn from use at the end of October 17.

Sounds about right. LK had been based at Alicante for several months of the year but she has been at Leeds for the last few weeks, living out her time at home, so to speak.

Here's a snippet for the press. LK is one of four sistership 733s purchased from Lufthansa in 2004. Of these, LJ was retired earlier this year. The other two are LH and LI. Yes, that's right. LI, as in G-CELI. The very same. Now give us a story about that !

Waldo1 9th Aug 2017 22:34


Originally Posted by Flying Wild (Post 9855008)
'cos them's the rules.

Don't blame the crew. They're just doing their job each day following the rules imposed on them by the company. If you want to make/change the rules, you can do so when you're the boss.

Knob.........

GdLSF 11th Aug 2017 19:51


Originally Posted by Waldo1 (Post 9856401)
2 points, I haven't been on a j2 flight in about 15 years so I don't know who u are talking to and can I remind u that we are all the customers.....

Point 1. How did you manage to fly on Jet2 15 years ago? They only started 14 years ago.

Point 2. Life will still go on if you don't have your phone on, it is a shame that you (and the majority of the population) have been brainwashed into thinking that you need to be available 24/7.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 12th Aug 2017 08:52


Point 1. How did you manage to fly on Jet2 15 years ago? They only started 14 years ago.
To be fair he does say about 15 years, and as Jet2 have now been going 14 years 6 months he's not that far off.

garry8g 17th Aug 2017 17:01

I know that the balance of the original order of 30 (14) new B737-800 aircraft are due by April 18.

Can we expect to see 2 or 3 second hand B737-800 aircraft appear as well?

There were 2 added to the fleet last year.

Or even a couple of B757 to expand the seating capacity? Or a second A330?

Refuellerman 17th Aug 2017 20:39

Can any1 inform me why the jet 2 flight from bfs to fao took half an hour more than ezy at the same time and only managed to get a fl 32 cruise height, aircraft g-celv??

4Screwaircrew 17th Aug 2017 21:12


Originally Posted by Refuellerman (Post 9865142)
Can any1 inform me why the jet 2 flight from bfs to fao took half an hour more than ezy at the same time and only managed to get a fl 32 cruise height, aircraft g-celv??

They travel at different speeds being different aircraft, FL32 possibly the optimum level, or the closest to it available from ATC.

Trav a la 17th Aug 2017 21:16


Originally Posted by Refuellerman (Post 9865142)
Can any1 inform me why the jet 2 flight from bfs to fao took half an hour more than ezy at the same time and only managed to get a fl 32 cruise height, aircraft g-celv??

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...g-celv#e78a459

Chesty Morgan 17th Aug 2017 22:28


Originally Posted by Refuellerman (Post 9865142)
Can any1 inform me why the jet 2 flight from bfs to fao took half an hour more than ezy at the same time and only managed to get a fl 32 cruise height, aircraft g-celv??

Looks like it went via T9 airway (non radar/radio). Quite often you will get level caps and speed restrictions.

double-oscar 18th Aug 2017 15:35

Or perhaps because some of the older 737's are restricted by the company from flying at the aircrafts maximum operating altitude?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 18th Aug 2017 16:03

FL320 is lower that normal for a 300, but not hugely so, however this will impact on the cruise speed.

In addition to this there is a marked difference in the cruise speed between a 737-300 and an Airbus, typically the 300 will cruise at about M.73 whereas the Airbus will be at about M.78, all of which over the course of close to 3 hours will make a difference. Add in to that the difference in the wind between FL320 and FL360 or 380 where the Airbus would probably be will all go to make up some time.

As to why FL320 was attained I can only guess, however it's usually due to ATC and the availability of higher levels, for example today I operated back fro Gerona, the flight plan was filed at FL380 however we only managed FL340 due to other traffic above us.

2Planks 18th Aug 2017 20:31

The Easy schedule allows for a 3 hour flight, the J2 3 hours and 15 so not much news here I think.

Waldo1 19th Aug 2017 01:10


Originally Posted by GdLSF (Post 9859379)
Point 1. How did you manage to fly on Jet2 15 years ago? They only started 14 years ago.

Point 2. Life will still go on if you don't have your phone on, it is a shame that you (and the majority of the population) have been brainwashed into thinking that you need to be available 24/7.

As mr frt pants points out, it was an estimated flight a long time ago u 🛎🔚 and I listen to podcasts on my device...do u want to patronisingly comment further as to why that is?no? Ok then I will carry on without any further intrusion into your historic ways.....get a life sir...with all due respect.....

111KAB 23rd Aug 2017 14:49

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Council Van 23rd Aug 2017 22:43


Originally Posted by Waldo1 (Post 9866169)
As mr frt pants points out, it was an estimated flight a long time ago u 🛎🔚 and I listen to podcasts on my device...do u want to patronisingly comment further as to why that is?no? Ok then I will carry on without any further intrusion into your historic ways.....get a life sir...with all due respect.....

With all due respect Please get a life by complying with the the lawful requests of the Cabin crew in future, out of respect for your fellow passengers, the Cab Cabin crews and YOUR OWN Safety.

TSR2 23rd Aug 2017 23:04


With all due respect Please get a life by complying with the the lawful requests of the Cabin crew in future, out of respect for your fellow passengers, the Cab Cabin crews and YOUR OWN Safety.
Very well said Sir.

Richard Taylor 24th Aug 2017 06:26

Less Waldo1, more Wally1.

compton3bravo 24th Aug 2017 12:04

Waldo, very appropriate name - a comedian I seem to think of a not very good magician. Either way get a life for god's sake
At the moment down here in southern Spain the most popular pastime for Brits on hooliday is looking at their phones especially while they are eating! Where did it all go wrong.

Refuellerman 24th Aug 2017 12:04


Originally Posted by Johnny [email protected] Pants (Post 9865856)
FL320 is lower that normal for a 300, but not hugely so, however this will impact on the cruise speed.

In addition to this there is a marked difference in the cruise speed between a 737-300 and an Airbus, typically the 300 will cruise at about M.73 whereas the Airbus will be at about M.78, all of which over the course of close to 3 hours will make a difference. Add in to that the difference in the wind between FL320 and FL360 or 380 where the Airbus would probably be will all go to make up some time.

As to why FL320 was attained I can only guess, however it's usually due to ATC and the availability of higher levels, for example today I operated back fro Gerona, the flight plan was filed at FL380 however we only managed FL340 due to other traffic above us.

Thanks smelly pants🤣🇬🇧


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