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Playamar2 27th Jun 2017 13:42

Looks like a replacement for the A330 will be required for a day or two, as VYGL has just landed at TFS and blown a couple of tyres. Currently blocking the runway.

dc9-32 27th Jun 2017 18:18

I guess Titan will step in with their 767....

garry8g 27th Jun 2017 18:41

Quite significant damage....must have been a very hard landing....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDVeRjoXoAA9p5i.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDVk_P4WsAAVT64.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDWIXZxXUAEh-Fu.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDVOmi2W0AEpcaQ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDVOlZwW0AE40Oi.jpg

Wonder how long it will be out of action?

Ivan aromer 27th Jun 2017 21:32

Jet2
 

Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 9814141)

Without prejudging the incident an anti-skid failure can produce similar results.

tubby linton 27th Jun 2017 23:04


Originally Posted by Ivan aromer (Post 9814280)
Without prejudging the incident an anti-skid failure can produce similar results.

An anti-skid fault would affect all of the wheels not just the trailing ones. The A332 lands on the trailing wheels and then derotates onto the forward part of the bogie. Looking at the photos it seems to be in the first third of the runway 07.On the metars there was a windshift about this time and a windshear warning. The autothrust of the A332 I used to fly was always very sluggish to respond to speed excursions caused by wind changes,

RVF750 28th Jun 2017 08:34

Last time I saw and wheels like that the park brake had been left on. Just a heavy landing would cause the trucks to rotate and slam the front wheels down hard, possibly harder than the rears? Pure downforce impact couldn't possibly do that to just the rears...

Could it?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 28th Jun 2017 08:49

I don't think so, looks like a lock up to me.

chaps1954 28th Jun 2017 08:59

Any news on temport replacement to cover today etc

Chesty Morgan 28th Jun 2017 10:19

Wonder if Air Tanker are picking up the bill...

Mr Mac 28th Jun 2017 11:58

Chesty Morgan
Would have thought so unless they can find alternative reasons for blow outs like metal shards in tyres I suppose, from another source. Air Tanker insurers will ultimatly pay I would think, bearing in mind not just A/C damage but also runway and obviously replacment A/C and accomidation / diruption.
I boarded the A/C on Monday pm and noted that walking past L/H side to middle door that she appeared to be in very new condition, including tyres. Usually you tend to board on air bridges more often than not these days (carriers I fly anyway), but we were bused out at Palma, so go to look at her close up relativley, while waiting to climb steps (5min as some older folk in front). I guess some explaining to be done by crew if as other crew have posted it is down to lock up or wind shear. Anyway nobody hurt which is always the worst scenario.
Regards
Mr Mac

Wycombe 28th Jun 2017 12:54


she appeared to be in very new condition
The aircraft is fairly new, delivered to Air Tanker in Jun'15 I believe.

bjones4 28th Jun 2017 14:43

Any indications what might be drafted in for tomorrow? I'm currently in ACE expecting to fly back on it.

Having checked the seat maps our flight and the PMI in the morning are both almost full.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 28th Jun 2017 15:11


Originally Posted by bjones4 (Post 9814973)
Any indications what might be drafted in for tomorrow?

Probably the 2xB737-800's that are on standby for just this sort of occasion.:ok:

LBIA 28th Jun 2017 16:07


Originally Posted by bjones4 (Post 9814973)
Any indications what might be drafted in for tomorrow? I'm currently in ACE expecting to fly back on it.

You wont be on the leased Air Tanker Airbus A330 that's for sure. Today's MAN-RHO-MAN was split on to the leased Titan Airways Airbus A321 G-POWN and Jet2's own Boeing 737-800, G-GDFF.

LS819/820 & LS8190/8200


Again tomorrows MAN-PMI-MAN & MAN-ACE-MAN scheduled Airbus A330 flights are been split onto 2 aircraft which will most likely be a combination of Jet2's own Boeing 737-800 and Boeing 757-200 which are on standby.

LS831/832 & LS8310/8320
LS891/892 & LS8910/8920

ssflyer 1st Jul 2017 08:29

Jet2 drunks removed by police at BCN
 
Jet 2 BHX/GRO flight last night diverted to BCN because of storms over Girona (as did the following Belfast flight)
Unruly Stag & Hen party caused a rumpus and 22 were removed by police at Barcelona.
Aircraft(s) returned to GRO after 2 hours on the ground at BCN.
Luckily the crew were still in hours for a very late return flight to BHX
No doubt the facebook pics will start appearing.
SSF

milhouse999 1st Jul 2017 11:59


Originally Posted by ssflyer (Post 9817865)
Jet 2 BHX/GRO flight last night diverted to BCN because of storms over Girona (as did the following Belfast flight)
Unruly Stag & Hen party caused a rumpus and 22 were removed by police at Barcelona.
Aircraft(s) returned to GRO after 2 hours on the ground at BCN.
Luckily the crew were still in hours for a very late return flight to BHX
No doubt the facebook pics will start appearing.
SSF

I do love Jet2's no nonsense approach to offloading unruly idiots, in fact it seems to be in the news the most regarding such incidents.

The same can't be said for Easyjet whom we flew from Newcastle to Corfu with last week, two rowdy oiks boarded and sat in row 1. Shouting and swearing about how they'd 'downed' 5 vodkas in the terminal. Despite the complaints from passengers the wet lettuce of a cabin manager did jot all about it and spent the next 3 hours in flight trying to keep them quiet. Even bribed them with a free can of cider as we landed in Corfu for being good boys. Ridiculous.

SealinkBF 1st Jul 2017 14:38

Jet2 seems to attract these rowdy passengers!

pwalhx 1st Jul 2017 15:06

Is that really the case, or are they the airline that actually does something about them?

retrosgone 1st Jul 2017 16:09

The latter. Zero tolerance policy backed up by management at every level-even if it leads to significant delays and costs including diversion etc,

milhouse999 1st Jul 2017 16:43


Originally Posted by retrosgone (Post 9818220)
The latter. Zero tolerance policy backed up by management at every level-even if it leads to significant delays and costs including diversion etc,

And an excellent policy it is as well.

Station_Calling 1st Jul 2017 16:46

Sealink...
 

Jet2 seems to attract these rowdy passengers!
Completely uninformed crap.

Jet2.com are taking the lead in not accepting anti social behaviour. This has led to many headlines as it is dealt with.

Unlike other airlines which allow people to join the mile high club in row 15, amongst other things...

ssflyer 1st Jul 2017 16:47

The problem is the BHX/GRO/BHX flights this year are only on Fridays and Mondays-a recipe for trouble from the weekend louts
but
I understand the Captain and FA's acted quickly and firmly and got the police to offload the mob at BCN and their return tickets were cancelled.
SSF

SWBKCB 1st Jul 2017 16:56

Well, if there were no rowdy pax, they wouldn't have had to take the lead and introduce a zero tolerance policy in the first place...

Alteagod 1st Jul 2017 17:06

Well done for zero tolerance. As Spock once said.... the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. These few seem intent on ruining everyone's pleasure

Station_Calling 1st Jul 2017 17:25

SWBKCB...
 
Not sure what you are trying to say?

If you want to fly with rowdy pax unchecked and unsanctioned, then feel free to fly with any other UK carrier. If you want to fly with an airline that will at least try and reduce the chances of you having an unpleasant flight, doesn't allow swearing, aggressive behaviour and general drunkenness, and bans people who do create a nuisance for others, then fly with Jet2.com.

Your choice.

Expressflight 1st Jul 2017 17:38


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 9818251)
Well, if there were no rowdy pax, ....

If only, but that's not the world we live in is it - unfortunately.

SWBKCB 1st Jul 2017 18:11

Station_Calling - stop being so defensive. You said it was

Completely uninformed crap
that Jet2 attracted rowdy pax.

I was merely saying that Jet2 must have these type of pax, or they wouldn't have needed to take the steps they did, or is it normal for the company to introduce policies to counteract problems they don't have - hold on, thinking of some of the places I've worked, it probably is...

Station_Calling 1st Jul 2017 20:23

SWBKCB...
 

Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 9818297)
Station_Calling - stop being so defensive. You said it was that Jet2 attracted rowdy pax.

I was merely saying that Jet2 must have these type of pax, or they wouldn't have needed to take the steps they did, or is it normal for the company to introduce policies to counteract problems they don't have - hold on, thinking of some of the places I've worked, it probably is...

Having flown Thomson, Monarch, Jet2, Ryanair and Easy in the last 5 years, unfortunately awful pax are commonplace. It has nothing to do with the particular airline.

The sad thing is that out of 194 pax, 185 are decent people intent on having a great holiday and travelling peacefully, while the few are absolute animals with no consideration for anyone else, regardless of their age. I have a small child and use that as a measure of what I think is acceptable.

Jet2 is taking a stance on being a family airline where anyone can fly without fear of anti social behaviour. All flights before 8ish are dry, and there's a limit to the number of drinks you can buy.

This behaviour should be praised and recognised for what it is - dealing with anti social scum who couldn't give a toss about anyone else's flight.

If you think that's a bad thing, then as I said earlier, feel free to fly with anyone else.

roverman 1st Jul 2017 21:02

Jet 2 deal very well with this issue in general. I have seen staff politely asking hen/stag parties at MAN check-in to change T-shirts with offensive slogans out of courtesy to fellow passengers, families, children, OAPs etc.

milhouse999 2nd Jul 2017 07:46

I think the crux of the policy is that staff have been told that they will be supported by their management if they decide to offload passengers due to unruly behaviour, without fear of being reprimanded for making the flight late. I'm not a total expert but could this be because of the relatively low number of rotations their aircraft do each day meaning lengthly delays for other flights won't be a knock on effect?

The Easyjets of the world may not be as supportive to their staff if they make the 0600hrs departure delayed due to an offload as per my post above. The two we had to suffer a flight with were prime candidates for being dragged off.

ATNotts 2nd Jul 2017 08:26


If only, but that's not the world we live in is it - unfortunately.
"World" - or is it pretty much a British disease?

chaps1954 2nd Jul 2017 09:06

Not only UK at all

Mr Mac 2nd Jul 2017 09:12

Chaps1954
Would have to disagree, as I unfortunately find in my travels that is very much a British issue and not just limited to the stag and hen party traffic as I recently found at a trade fair in China. Would be interesting to see some figures on Air Berlin diversions or some Scandinavian carriers on their routes to the Costas for comparison.


Cheers
Mr Mac

compton3bravo 2nd Jul 2017 09:32

I would not go as far as a wholly British problem maybe 99.9 per cent more like. Where I am in southern Spain it is a fairly quiet area although the Madrigals are about to descend for a few weeks but when you are in a bar or a restaurant having a meal and or drink, guess who you can hear above everybody else giving it large - and it is not the Spanish. Roll on the World Cup in Russia next year when the police take no prisoners.

brian_dromey 2nd Jul 2017 09:34

I applaud Jet2 for this stance. In fact, I would encourage them to make SNN their diversion point. There are several judges on the bench at Limerick Court who take an exceptionally dim view of this. Fines in excess of €1000 are the rule, rathe than the exception and some have been imprisioned.

matjr79 3rd Jul 2017 09:02

it's all gone quiet with G-VYGL in TFS.
Any update on the repair or return to service date?
Supposed to be flying back on her on 14Jul TFS-MAN.

matjr79

cornishsimon 3rd Jul 2017 11:00

Nice to see mentions of repairs on this thread. Normally the normal suspects would of been all over a Jet2 incident with scap if, beyond economical repair etc etc etc

Yes. Tongue in cheek post but it's a nice change on this thread 😜


cs

matjr79 3rd Jul 2017 11:19

@cornishsimon - Agree with you.

Working for a Luxembourg 747 carrier we see bigger scrapes than this one and have the birds back in the air in no time.

Wycombe 3rd Jul 2017 11:44


Normally the normal suspects would of been all over a Jet2 incident with scrap if, beyond economical repair etc etc etc
Unlikely in this case as the a/c is only a couple of years old, and doesn't belong to Jet2.

lfc84 3rd Jul 2017 14:58


Originally Posted by matjr79 (Post 9819447)
it's all gone quiet with G-VYGL in TFS.
Any update on the repair or return to service date?
Supposed to be flying back on her on 14Jul TFS-MAN.

matjr79

How do you know ?


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