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NorthernCounties 18th Apr 2011 14:28

Who would buy them though, hopefully not the same idiots that own BFS. And surely not BAA!

Jack1985 18th Apr 2011 17:21

I've heard MAG Airports are a potential buyer for Cork, any one else heard this?

Jamie2k9 19th Apr 2011 15:35

Over 1.4 million passengers through Dublin in March down 3% on 2010.

Late Easter hoildays and sharp fall in domestic traffic.
Jan down 60%
Feb down 72%
Mar down 68%


So far this year over 3.8 million. 2% decline on 2010.

positive 19th Apr 2011 16:03

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Over 1.4 million passengers through Dublin in March down 3% on 2010.
So far this year over 3.8 million. 2% decline on 2010.



Not too bad as April should show a large increase than last year as the ash cloud closed Dublin for a week any news on Cork or Shannon?

dublindispatch 19th Apr 2011 17:16

I am actually surprised that the DUB figures are not worse. I hope that this summer sees the start of some growth again and keeps our jobs in it a little more secure no matter who we work for!

NorthernCounties 23rd Apr 2011 11:01

I see that Emirates regularly fly their A380 into Man, do they ever use it when flying to Dub?

chuboy 23rd Apr 2011 11:38

Emirates does not fly to Dublin, and even if the did, DUB is not A380-capable. So no.

NorthernCounties 23rd Apr 2011 12:27

Oops my bad... confused Ethiad with them. Guess when their A380's arrive we won't be capable then either. Ah well...

Jamie2k9 23rd Apr 2011 13:57

Even if DUB could handle the A380 then I don't think Eithad would use it on the route as they currently service some of there A330 aircraft at there maintence base here in Dublin.

dublindispatch 24th Apr 2011 09:20

Dub is certified for A380. It is an Air France diversion station for the A380. One stand in T2 is designated for use in an emergency.

FR- 24th Apr 2011 13:52

Does Dublin only have status code F, for diverts only.

Just a spotter 24th Apr 2011 18:59


Dub is certified for A380. It is an Air France diversion station for the A380. One stand in T2 is designated for use in an emergency.
I didn't know that. Are any other airports in Ireland similarly designated? I presume Shannon.

That said, an emergency diversion airport is somewhat different from being an operational destination from which an economical pax and cargo load plus long haul fuel can be lifted off the runway.

JAS

fivejuliet 24th Apr 2011 20:53

It could land at Shannon but there are no stands suitable for it

Jamie2k9 25th Apr 2011 22:33

Sunwing Airlines service between DUB - YYZ has being cancelled.

Airbus321-200 26th Apr 2011 09:11

Does anyone know why the sunwing service has been cancelled? is it all their long haul plans?

or was Air canada and Transat too much competition?

Jamie2k9 26th Apr 2011 22:39

It's just Dublin which has being canceled.

Varadkar: I'll keep travel tax if airlines don't open new routes - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

Main Points:
Part-Privatisation of ORK and SNN so they can be independent of DUB

But he says Cork and Shannon are losing a lot of money and Dublin is carrying an enormous debt from Terminal 2.
Mr Varadkar said an option is to part-privatise Cork and Shannon to avoid lumping their debts on to Dublin and give them independence.
Travel Tax - scrapped in next months budget if agreement can be reached.
Aer Lingus talks going well
Ryanair "Want it all there own way"
New routes must be aimed at tourists and not Bucket and Spade routes.
Deal on airport charges to be looked at
Tax would return in airlines don't open new routes

I have no idea what new routes Aer Lingus can bring to Dublin which are not already served, but they could bring some to Cork.

NorthernCounties 27th Apr 2011 07:31

The huff and puff strategy employed by FR can-not be sustained... they're cutting routes everywhere as they don't get their own way! I'd like to see some Scandinavian routes, where people still have disposable income.

If FR don't take the opportunity then I'd like to see DUB attracting more routes from Norwegian Air Shuttle,

Would love to see us develop our relationship with Singapore airlines as well. Moving from just cargo to at least one or two scheduled services a week. Could attract the Australian tourist. I know this is most pie in the sky though.

fivejuliet 27th Apr 2011 10:14

NorthernCounties, Singapore Cargo stopped serving Dublin quite some time ago now.

Sober Lark 3rd May 2011 11:40

PAX must walk from T2 with baggage, under partial cover from the elements and cross roads to reach T1 where they can board a bus? Seemingly a bus can drop off at T2 but can't pick up. Does anyone know if this a temporary inconvenience or is it a design fault?

eireoflot82 5th May 2011 11:14

No room for Croker in Obama’s flying visit · TheJournal


Obama will arrive in dub on may 23 at 9:30am and leave (snn?)a day later.no pep rally at croke park due to lack of notice for security and schedule.

Sober Lark 5th May 2011 12:29

After the movies he's been watching recently do you really think they'd give full details of his travel plans?

eireoflot82 5th May 2011 16:38

didn't stop them from releasing the queen's itinerary.

Sober Lark 6th May 2011 12:49

Point taken eireoflo82 but I'd imagine they incorporate a few decoys in what they feed to the media.
Ref post #345 DAA reply:
The Dublin Airport Ground Transportation Centre is located to the rear of the T1 Multi-Storey Car Park Atrium building, adjacent to T2. It comprises a dedicated Coach Park, High-sided Vehicle surface Park, and four lanes with dedicated bus stops, including car park and car hire shuttle bus pick-up and drop-off. Elderly passengers or passengers with reduced mobility can avail of assistance from our Reduced Mobility Service Provide (OCS) to access this area, if required.We have a facility in place to drop-off Long Term Car Park customers at Terminal 2. However, the current arrangement is for all passengers to pick-up all Long Term Car Park buses from their original area. We have been continuously reviewing and gauging our customer's feedback regarding this matter and recently have trialled the possibility of a pick-up area from Terminal 2. In designing the Dublin Airport roads network and operations plan, DAA had to consider a number of factors and work within a number of parameters, including planning restrictions and roads capacities. I trust the information above clarifies this matter for you.

dublindispatch 6th May 2011 13:13

On another note have we all got our cameras and cine-cams ready for the big match to watch the extra flights coming in and out. Will be a mad and mental day at the airport for the europa league final thingy. Cant wait to see how the DAA plan this one!! First real test of T2.

ayroplain 6th May 2011 17:26


Can't wait to see how the DAA plan this one!! First real test of T2.
I'd be more wondering about how the Ground Controllers will manage if the DAA want T2 used in this invasion. While passing through DUB recently I watched an EI A330 land on 28 and exit onto the parallel taxiways which lead directly down to T2. But not for long. It turned left and went on a grand tour of the airfield before finally joining the end of the queue of aircraft stretching back from the 28 holding point. The usual delays at the holding point followed as two turboprops wended their sluggish approach in and bit by bit the 330 edged forward following the others until, finally, sufficient space was there for it to nudge its way left of the queue and around the corner to the south side of T2. Not great if you've just spent 5/6 hours Transatlantic. Given that the Controllers never wanted T2 to be built where it is it will be interesting to see how they handle this unprecedented traffic.

A few questions:

1. Does anyone know how many aircraft are likely to be involved?

2. Am I correct in thinking that the aircraft will be on the ground at DUB all day and depart later after the game? If so, that should be one hell of a sight over by the fire station or even 11/29.

3. Is it likely that the main arrival/departure batches will be timed outside normal busy times at DUB (not too many of those, I know) especially during the morning exodus of FR's and EI's the following day.

Jamie2k9 12th May 2011 21:18

Dublin Airport had just under 1.6 million passengers in April compared to under 1.2 million in April 2010.

So far this year just under 5.4 million have used the airport up 5.8%.

May should see a further increase with an extra 50,000 passengers due.

Longhitter 13th May 2011 08:04

Are these pax figures corrected for the volcanic ash events? It might well look a lot less rosy with that in mind...

MAN777 13th May 2011 19:02

Dublin football charters
 
First lists appearing here, along with an aircraft parking plan

Europa League Cup Final Dublin

Jamie2k9 16th May 2011 22:26

AA to suspend DUB - ORD this winter again. Flights will finish on 29 Oct and resume on 3 Apr 2012.

tallseabird 19th May 2011 13:26

Can anyone tell me if the 12:30 Delta flight to ATL does the full pre-clearance in Dublin?

How do they decide who does and who doesn't clear in DUB?

Jamie2k9 19th May 2011 15:06

All US flights except 1 EI to JFK and 1 EI to BOS use USPC.


How do they decide who does and who doesn't clear in DUB?
There is only a certain number of gates which can use USPC and there can be more US flight departures than gates which is why USPC is not available for all flights. I think it's 5 gates.

The reason Aer Lingus don't use it for the above flights is the time of day for second JFK and second BOS only goes 3 days a week.

lfc84 19th May 2011 15:12

Advanced Passenger Information

Terminal 2

there's probably some more specific info but i havent got time to find it

tallseabird 19th May 2011 15:24

Thanks for the info.

I have looked on the DAA website and I can't see any specific info, I have looked on the Delta website and while I would have thought they would be shouting about it - nothing!

Jamie, that's the first explanation that makes sense - Thanks

Jamie2k9 19th May 2011 21:02

Blue Air announce there third route from Dublin to Cluj-Napoca from 2 July.

Cluj-Napoca - 00:10 - DUB 01:55
DUB - 02:40 - Cluj-Napoca 07:55

Operates Monday and Saturday.

Flights will go Bucharest - Cluj-Napoca - Dublin but there will still be a direct flight to Bucharest once a week and it returns to two direct flights from end of October. This is because Cluj-Napoca is not a base.

Jamie2k9 3rd Jun 2011 00:11

Over 20,000 more passengers will pass through the airport over the next 4 days compared to the June bank hoilday weekend last year. Just short of 2,000 flights.

The extra Delta flights start today.

Stevek 3rd Jun 2011 10:31

That's based on the assumption of load factors being 100% on all flights. Slightly unrealistic.

airbourne 3rd Jun 2011 11:49

6 flights a day to New York now. Is there sufficient numbers to put bums on seats?

Aer Lingus, Delta and Continental: Who will crack first, or who will put on the big seat sale?

DannyKelly22 5th Jun 2011 22:33

i see delta have upgraded the JFK-DUB flight for the winter to a daily b767-400

SpringHeeledJack 7th Jun 2011 14:56

Apologies if this has been done already, but i was wondering what was the thinking behind the new terminal at DUB. I arrived at street level, then had to get in a lift to descend a floor to the check-in. Thereafter a lift journey was needed to get to the 2nd floor for security, then an escalator up to the 3rd floor to get a lift to the 2nd floor, from where i had to walk to ANOTHER lift to the 1st floor and then along the concourse to the gate. :ugh: The signposting although there was very small and only obvious after you knew the way. There seemed to be quite a few older travellers having difficulties.

I've flown from hundreds of airports and in all that time, even in terminals under construction, where unhelpful diversions are necessary, i've never experienced such an illogical and passenger unfriendly system. What were the planners at the DAA thinking ? What were the architects thinking ? Anyone have any thoughts on this ? Thanks



SHJ

Jamie2k9 7th Jun 2011 15:04

The only reason you would need to get a lift from the arrivals floorto check-in is if you walked from T1 to T2 or you came in from T2 car parks, otherwise check-in is at street level.


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