PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Airlines, Airports & Routes (https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes-85/)
-   -   DUBLIN - 2 (https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/434949-dublin-2-a.html)

Jamie2k9 9th Jul 2011 18:41

T2 has separate car parks. Aircoach and 747 pick up from T2 also. All EI ground staff are in T2 so that may be why they wont use T1.

Its only 4 flights so wont affect that many passengers. Saturday is the only night it realy happons.

Just a spotter 10th Jul 2011 21:22

@j636

With the new terminal and gates layout, it's important to not think of gates as being necessarily associated with either of the terminals. Yes, the 400 gates (formerly Pier E) are physically part of the T2 development, in the same way as the 300 gates (formerly Pier B) are part of the T1 (formerly the Main Terminal) development.

But now, the Terminals are the check in/departures and arrivals areas and all the gates are accessible to either Terminal via an air side connection. So a passenger checking in through T2 could depart via any gate, similarly an arriving flight could disembark passengers at any gate and have them "arrive" into either terminal (in practice, T2 pax will mostly depart and arrive via the 400's).

JAS.

BTW, There was an interesting little historical snippet on the radio a few days back. A DAA spokesman was discussing the bus drop off/pickup and car park arrangement and mentioned that T2 is the 5th passenger terminal to be build at Dublin. 1st was the Central Terminal (now known as the "Old Terminal"), then there was a temporary structure known as the "Lourdes Terminal", the North Terminal which is beside the Old Terminal, followed by the Main Terminal (now T1) and now T2.

airbourne 11th Jul 2011 01:56

Went through T2 passport control when I came in on Saturday morning. 1 garda on the EU passports line, 2 on the non EU passports line. So the TA flights, and the europe flights that are in at that time of the morning dont warrant some extra staff?

Jamie2k9 12th Jul 2011 13:39


1 garda on the EU passports line, 2 on the non EU passports line. So the TA flights, and the Europe flights that are in at that time of the morning dint warrant some extra staff?
2 on non EU passport line up to 10.30 or 11.00 would be needed but after 11.00 there would need to be 2 EU passport line.

12 US/Middle East flights due in between 5.00 - 10.30 (13/14 some days)
8 European flights due in between 5.00 - 10.30


Air Baltic to cancel DUB - Riga for winter but will operate daily from March 2012. Ryanair have increased it for winter.

Cimber Air have gone from 4 weekly to daily on DUB - Billund until mid August but it will finish in October and resume next march.

Luxair will drop DUB along with other European routes as they are selling 2 aircraft.

dublindispatch 12th Jul 2011 14:37

And on a happy note?? Ah nothing oh time for my P45

Jamie2k9 13th Jul 2011 10:59

Over 1.8 million passengers in June up 1%
Almost 9 million year to date up 6%

European traffic - up 1%
UK traffic - up 1.5%
US traffic - up 7%
Middle East - level with 2010.
Domestic - down 54%

Latest News > Over 1.8 Million Passengers Travelled Through Dublin Airport In June

j636 15th Jul 2011 00:50

Incident: Air Canada B763 near Dublin on Jul 14th 2011, pressurization problems

Due to leave at at 12.00.

EI-BUD 15th Jul 2011 13:00

Aer Lingus regional routes would appear to be doing rather well! Taking Dublin Glasgow route (and comparing to Prestwick), it would seem that the trend is toward Glasgow International and it has been traditionally Ryanair that carry the numbers on Prestwick Dublin!! Well done Aer Lingus Regional.

The othe markets where FR & EI Regional compete all seem to be growing hopefully the new entrants are getting their fair good share of the traffic (not new new but since last year).

Looking at the comparison on PIK & GLA from Dublin and indeed the general performance of FR to STN from PIK V EZY to STN from PIK, this may give some clues as to why FR may find GLA an attractive route.
(I do realise PIK STN frequency is now low but still figures been in decline)

The improvement in figures of Aer Lingus R on GLA may alone give FR some sense of urgency to look at GLA. MOL hasnt passed up many opportunities to challenge Aer Arann or indeed Aer Lingus for that matter.

EI-BUD

Jamie2k9 15th Jul 2011 23:35

Alitalla and Zest Air flights had to return to DUB over the last few days as well as AC.

Todays LHR - St. Johns dropped in to get fuel.

SAS are still looking at night stopping in DUB from next March to have early morning flights to CPH.

j636 16th Jul 2011 12:47

The planned DART airport - city centre will now cost 200m and not 300m stated in May. This is much less than Metro and is lightly to be picked by the Gov in September. If go ahead given it will be open in 4 years.

Train every 15 minutes.
Journey time of 25 minutes.
Station 5 mins walk from T1 and T2.
6.5km new track from airport to Clongriffin.
City Centre Resignalling completed by 2012 - 12 to 20 trains an hour.
Park & Ride build near airport for commuters from Swords.
A proposal will be submitted by an Iarnrod Eireann at end of the month.

j636 16th Jul 2011 16:57

Are weather conditions causing problems at the airport today?
And Air Transit deparuture to YYZ?

Jamie2k9 16th Jul 2011 23:44

Wind (strong gusts) was a problem.

Air Transit departure to YYZ has being delayed. Next information @ 08.00 tomorrow but expect 24 hour delay.

Reports are that on deparutre from YYZ the aircraft burst a tyre and damage to the airframe was found on arrival in Dublin.

PPRuNeUser0176 17th Jul 2011 11:18


Air Transit departure to YYZ has being delayed. Next information @ 08.00 tomorrow but expect 24 hour delay.

Reports are that on deparutre from YYZ the aircraft burst a tyre and damage to the airframe was found on arrival in Dublin.
Now due to depart at 01.30 tomorrow morning. Air Transit don't have an aircraft to send over without it affecting there schedule further. That is what happoned J2k9.

Jack1985 17th Jul 2011 18:45

Last few weeks on & off an A332 has been operating the evening DUB-FAO-DUB route on Wednesdays, im guessing the other days different A332 a/c are off-duty being serviced.

PPRuNeUser0176 17th Jul 2011 18:55

The morning DUB - FAO is due to be A320 with the evening being a A321. Over the last few weeks the A321 have being tech quiet a bit.

A332 not scheduled to operate it. So not sure why it is but if there is more than 174 pax booked and A321 has being tech then EI would have to use A332 as its doing nothing that day or cancel the flight.

DannyKelly22 17th Jul 2011 23:13

on a wednesday there is a spare A332/3. The aircraft normally operated DUB -MCO 3 days a week and the 2nd daily flight the other 3 days a week leaving wednesday as a free day, normally this allows for maintenance to b carried out or flights upgraded because as u say, FAO is sometimes booked at capacity. Up until the EI/United JV it used to be operated by the A330 as well as AGP and sometimes NCE.

The long haul fleet are currently operating as follows........................
1xJFK 104/5 Daily (the aircraft that comes in as EI104 normally rotates and does the AGP flight and then the 108/9 to JFK)
1xJFK/AGP 584/5 and 108/9 Daily
1xBOS EI139/138 Daily
1xORD EI124/5 Daily
1xSNN (operates m-w-f-s to JFK as EI110/111 and -T-T-S- to BOS as EI134/5)
1x -T-T-S (normally an A332 to MCO then on M---F-S to BOS as EI138/9)
1x IAD-MAD (UA Joint Venture - A332 -now operated by EI-DUO, was EI-DAA up until the 12th July but aircraft switch was made in BOS)

PPRuNeUser0176 18th Jul 2011 02:37

Air Transit flight to YYZ left at 03.00. A replacment A330.
The other Air Transit A330 with burst tyre and damage to wing departed form hanger 6 at 03.30 for SNN.

j636 18th Jul 2011 21:43

Would sombody have a list of Airlines and what Piers they use at DUB. Thanks.

PPRuNeUser0176 19th Jul 2011 00:44

Pier A:
Aer Arann
Aer Lingus Regional
Air France/Cityjet (also use B)
Air Southwest
Air Nostrun
Cimber Sterling
Luxair
Tyrolean Airways

Pier B:
Adria Airways
Air Contractors ***
Aer Lingus (few morning dep and few evening arr)
Air Baltic
Air Canada
Air France/Cityjet (also use A)
Air Italy
Air Transit
Alitalia
Arkia Israel Airlines
BMI
BMI Regional
Dubrovnik Airline
Europe Airpost ***
Flybe
Germanwings
Hoildays Czech Airlines ***
Jet2
Jet4You
Lauda Air
Luthansa
Malιv Hungarian Airlines
Monarch Airlines ***
Norwegian Air Shuttle
Orbest Orizonia Airlines
Pegasus Airlines
SATA
Scandinavian Airlines (also use D)
Swiss
S7 Airlines
Spanair
Thomson ***
Tunisair
Travel Service
Turkish Airlines

*** Also use Pier A/D if Pier B is full during the summer season. Saturday would be mostl lightly. Pier B gives priority to scheduled airlines.

Pier D:
Blue Air
BH Air
Onur Air
Ryanair
Sky Airlines
Scandinavian Airlines (also use B)
Tailwind Airlines

Pier E:
Aer Lingus
American Airlines
Continental
Delta
Eithad
US Airways

Still missing 10 - 15 airlines but most use Pier B and if full A or D. May not all be correct but most is.

j636 19th Jul 2011 13:30


Air Transit flight to YYZ left at 03.00. A replacement A330.
The other Air Transit A330 with burst tyre and damage to wing departed form hanger 6 at 03.30 for SNN.
Incident: Air Transat A333 at Toronto on Jul 15th 2011, tyre and wing damage on takeoff

Crew thought it was a bird strike. AAIU investigator was sent to airport but Canada's Transportation Safety Board will investigate.

wheelbarrow 19th Jul 2011 14:32

And for that Pier list, dont forget Air Contractors. Pier A/B.

Doing very well with the Boeing :ok:

PPRuNeUser0176 19th Jul 2011 14:36

I have them as Europe Airpost as its there B733 and Europe Airpost operate B733 to. Both are part of the same company.

wheelbarrow 19th Jul 2011 14:45


Both are part of the same company
Not exactly true.
But we wont argue over that. Different AOC/Management/Pot of Money.

Interesting expansion plan into IT next year but I cant say much now.

Noxegon 19th Jul 2011 14:46

The latest innovation? Pay to skip the security queues. What are the odds that the queues will go completely to hell now?

Welcome to Airport Club at Dublin Airport

€150/year seems very steep for that benefit alone. I'd imagine most frequent fliers already have lounge cards...

PPRuNeUser0176 19th Jul 2011 14:49


Interesting expansion plan into IT next year but I cant say much now.
Give a little more info.


€150/year seems very steep for that benefit alone
Have to agree. Security at peak times takes 10 - 15 mins at most.

Jamie2k9 20th Jul 2011 13:16

Latest News > New Passenger Security Screening Area Opens In Terminal 1

Old sercuity area closed. New one located just before Check-In Area 2 & 3.

Cyrano 20th Jul 2011 14:54


Originally Posted by Noxegon (Post 6581425)
The latest innovation? Pay to skip the security queues. What are the odds that the queues will go completely to hell now?

Welcome to Airport Club at Dublin Airport

€150/year seems very steep for that benefit alone. I'd imagine most frequent fliers already have lounge cards...

I agree, that seems singularly poor value for money. Let me get this straight: I pay €150 per year, and for that I get to skip the first part of the security queue (then I walk through the door and have to join the queues for the individual machines). Oh, but I also get a 25% discount off lounge access, so it only costs me €15 each time rather than €20. :ugh: I don't think I'll be rushing out to sign up.

Jamie2k9 20th Jul 2011 22:14


i see the point of allowing onward travel to the US but i dint think this will happen until EI Regional can merge its operations into T2 or at least Pier B.
Pier E can't cope with US aircraft and EI in the mornings and EI in the evenings. Add EI regional to the mix and it would make things worse. Pier B is not suitable for EI regional and most other carriers in T1 operate from it as well as EI.

840 20th Jul 2011 23:03

I've only flown through Pier E once so far so maybe someone could answer this question.

Is there anywhere that passengers could be dropped off by bus.

It wouldn't be an uncommon arrangement to park turboprops remotely and bus people to them. Indeed, this happens often enough at Pier A. So maybe that's a solution to the Pier A/E problem.

840 20th Jul 2011 23:23

A bit of confusion there I think. Apologies.

I meant dropped off from the aircraft to the terminal airside by bus.

Jamie2k9 20th Jul 2011 23:28

As far as I know you can't in T2 but you can in T1. Its being a long time since an airline has had to do it.

dublindispatch 21st Jul 2011 11:28

Any good route news for winter 2011. ANy airline that pulls out over the winter should be forced to repay any of the subsides they got to start the routes in the first place and i would say that based on the total lack of commitment from the airlines at leats that the travel tax will be back on again in the Dec budget.

Jack1985 21st Jul 2011 13:25


Any good route news for winter 2011. ANy airline that pulls out over the winter should be forced to repay any of the subsides they got to start the routes in the first place and i would say that based on the total lack of commitment from the airlines at leats that the travel tax will be back on again in the Dec budget.
The Travel Tax of €3 per departing passenger still remains, it is due to be removed in Budget 2012 (first Wednesday of December). the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport - Leo Varadkar has said it wont be removed as the MoT are still reviewing proposals by Aer Arann, Aer Lingus, CityJet and of course Ryanair, they're set to announce there reviews of the proposals before the Summer schedule is out, he also wants to see what the full Winter schedules are like before he pulls the ATT in December.

Jamie2k9 21st Jul 2011 14:24


ANy airline that pulls out over the winter should be forced to repay any of the subsides they got to start the routes in the first place
The DAA offered seasonal incentive schemes this year. The same as the Short Haul year round but the discounts are not as much. 60%, 40% and 20% for seasonal compared to 100%, 75%, 50% for year round.

840 22nd Jul 2011 00:08

The last two EI Regional flights I've had from Dublin (Glasgow and Edinburgh) have both involved getting bussed to the aircraft!

peba 24th Jul 2011 14:09

will ryr keep any of the extra based a/c in dub for the winter. When will they leave if so and where are all the extra crew going to go next?

j636 24th Jul 2011 14:49

Ryanair extra aircraft at Dublin? They generally like to move them away from Dublin. Do Ryanair handle all there flights or do they have a contract with a ground handling company. In T2 how are check-in desks 1 - 28 split between the american carriers.

Jamie2k9 24th Jul 2011 22:37

Ryanair have no extra aircraft in DUB than 2009/2010.
Summer 18 based.
March - May 16 based
May - September 18 based
September - October 16 based

Winter yet to be confirmed but will be more less the same as 2010/11 and Ryanair handle all there flights.

T2 - Check-In
Eithad - Desks 1 - 4
Delta - Desks 5 - 12
Continental - Desks 13 - 17
US Airways - Desks 18 - 23
American - Desks 24 - 28
Aer Lingus - Desks 29 - 56

Delta may also use some of EY/CO desks as I was there on Friday as a passenger and they had 6 desk open for the 767 to JFK at 14.10. I think they use 6 - 8 for the A330 to ATL.

j636 25th Jul 2011 12:01

I'm flying LGW - DUB - LGW with EI from T2 has anyone got any pictures of T2?

PPRuNeUser0176 25th Jul 2011 12:11

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...16_800x600.jpg

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...25_800x600.jpg

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...11_800x600.jpg

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...08_800x600.jpg

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...14_800x600.jpg

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...18_800x600.jpg

Aer Lingus 75 Years-Retro Jet-New Flagship Lounge — Trip Reports Forum | Airliners.net


All times are GMT. The time now is 14:00.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.