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Stevek 6th Mar 2011 00:05

You can freely walk between the two terminals.

Jack1985 6th Mar 2011 00:35

brilliant!! cant wait to see it now :) anybody KNOW what prices are like in Dublin Airport are they ott e.g. Cork?

dublindispatch 6th Mar 2011 09:41

As cheap as everything could be in Ireland!!

Shops in t2 are all top end brands so kinda pricey

Jamie2k9 6th Mar 2011 14:49

Dixons is the name of the shop.

Jack1985 6th Mar 2011 16:43

thanks for the info guys, does anybody no how much the DAA lounge access costs? its €20 for the WHOLE day at the Jack Lynch lounge in Cork...

Jamie2k9 6th Mar 2011 22:03

It's costs €20 for 3 hours.

Lounges

Jack1985 7th Mar 2011 12:56

New Air France by CityJet route to Pau, France every Saturday from April 2nd 2011!

Airbus321-200 7th Mar 2011 15:03

Is the AF/WX route to Pau not from LCY?

Doesn't seem bookable from DUB at the minute on the website. It would be great if it was from DUB but i'm not sure cityjet remember they have flights from DUB despite HQ being in swords ;)

Jack1985 7th Mar 2011 15:05

its only bookable on airfrance.ie

NorthernCounties 7th Mar 2011 15:44


Dixons is the name of the shop.
Since when was Dixons ever cheap!? I never get why people have the urge to purchase electrical items in an airport. But that's probably just me. I remember following Stephen Nolan on Twitter at Xmas and he did buy an Ipad whilst stuck at Heathrow!

dublindispatch 7th Mar 2011 15:50

Pso Routes
 
Any update on whats happening after July when the PSO money goes? Anyone interested in the routes does any of u know

Jack1985 7th Mar 2011 15:55


Pso Routes
Any update on whats happening after July when the PSO money goes? Anyone interested in the routes does any of u know
To be honest i cant see the routes going ahead after the PSO contracts expire, after the blow Manx2 has taken i wudnt be suprised if they delay developments for another 2yrs, who knows though these things chop and change by the day! maybe Loganair could take an intrest but to be honest i cant see the DAA chasing up operators for DUB-> GWY, LDY, NOC, SXL

dublindispatch 7th Mar 2011 21:45

The DAA might not but if u transit thru DUB you get the extra money making LDY-DUB-ORK-DUB-LDY for example worth the punt if you sell it as through service via DUB but its more likey the regional airports looking for the business rather than DAA but business is business, its not the size but what you do with it that matters, the aircraft that is not the airport.

But i agree I would say those routes are a non starter especialy after the Manx2 incident, but throwing it out to you guys, other than manx2 are there any european airlines that might give it a go?

Cyrano 7th Mar 2011 22:43


Originally Posted by dublindispatch (Post 6291613)
The DAA might not but if u transit thru DUB you get the extra money making LDY-DUB-ORK-DUB-LDY for example worth the punt if you sell it as through service via DUB but its more likey the regional airports looking for the business rather than DAA but business is business, its not the size but what you do with it that matters, the aircraft that is not the airport.

Would a bit of punctuation kill you? :hmm:

As far as I can make out, you're asking whether any other operator would be likely to have a go at a couple of the PSO routes on a commercial basis (with no subsidy) on the basis that they could sell one-stop services within Ireland? And something about the size of the aircraft not mattering?

1. No. Dream on. Sorry.
2. From the point of view of operating economics (=profit or loss for the airline), the aircraft size does matter. Believe me, it matters very much.

airbourne 8th Mar 2011 23:06

I am currently sitting in the Oasis lounge at JFK. On the outbound I went to the Priority Pass lounge at Dublin, which is also the temp lounge for Aer Lingus. Honestly its pretty pathetic. From what I remember, it was just a room with a load of chairs, a bar with drinks, and a few snacks. Compare it to where I am now and its so much different. The Oasis lounge is streets ahead of Dublin, even on a bad day.

Jamie2k9 8th Mar 2011 23:10


New Air France by CityJet route to Pau, France every Saturday from April 2nd 2011!
Must admit I didn't expect that route.

So far this year 13 new routes will start. Hopefully a few more lather in the year.

jucylucy 9th Mar 2011 19:37

any news if Primera will make a return to Dublin this summer?:confused:

Airbus321-200 9th Mar 2011 19:44

Primera will probably never return as they worked for the old budget travel which went bust, not to be confused with the new one.

Europe Airpost seemed to have filled the gap.

brianoh 10th Mar 2011 17:45

Hi Jamie,

What are the 13 routes that you heard lined up for this year besides Pau and Charlotte?

Anything juicy on the list? :-)

Brian.

Jamie2k9 10th Mar 2011 18:01

Aer Lingus - Izmir (2 weekly), Stuttgart (4 weekly), Aberdeen (6 weekly), Brostil (20 weekly), Rennes (3 weekly), Perpignan (2 weekly)
Air France operated by City Jet - Pau ( 1 weekly)
Blue Air - Bacu (2 weekly)
Luthansa - Munich (1 weekly)
Ryanair - Ibiza (2 weekly), Vilnius (3 weekly)
Sunwings - Toronto-Pearson (1 weekly)
US Airways - Charlotte (daily)

A number of other airlines have increased flights or put larger aircraft on routes.

dublindispatch 11th Mar 2011 17:18

VNO by FR doesnt count as it taking over from BT which was up too 5 times a week plus the Star1 to VNO so i think that should be discounted from the list

dublindispatch 11th Mar 2011 18:00

OMG some stories just wont do the decent thing and die a slow dignified death!!! Its that old AI story yet again!! See last line of story!!! Does that mix STILL include DUB?


Birmingham Airport boss Paul Kehoe has said that he is hopeful that direct flights between Birmingham and India will be resurrected this year, the Birmingham Mail reports. Thousands of passengers who used the route between the city and Amritsar to visit friends and family were left disappointed when Air India scrapped the link in 2008.
Other airlines have introduced flights that connect to India via Vienna, Dubai and Turkmenistan, but Mr Kehoe said talks are ongoing to bring the direct connection back. He said the airport is among the contenders to become Air India’s new hub for European flights. A decision is expected later this year.
He told the newspaper: ‘We have been speaking to the airline through our worst recession and that is encouraging. The flights to Amritsar stopped on the day I joined the airport because Air India was keen to protect its flight slots at Heathrow – it was not due to demand. I am keen to bring them back and I think a lot of people in Birmingham and places like Leicester would be very pleased. Air India is keen to move its European hub and we are in the mix to pick that up.'

EC-ILS 12th Mar 2011 17:15

Dublin, relax, this is nothing to do with DUB, it looks likely that AI will launch a MAN/BHX-India flight, not the hub idea that was previously mentioned!

Charlie Roy 13th Mar 2011 10:35


Its that old AI story yet again!!
I'm surprised it hasn't made a comeback with the news that Ireland's new Minister for Tourism is off to India for Saint Patrick's Day :E

j_davey 13th Mar 2011 20:59


Is the AF/WX route to Pau not from LCY?
No and Yes,

It originates from DUB, but I have been told that it will Op DUB-LCY-PUF from time to time.

ryan2000 13th Mar 2011 21:32

Air India
 
EC-ILS, I did hear from
another source that BHX was in serious contention for the hub.

DuneMentat 14th Mar 2011 09:37


Originally Posted by j_davey (Post 6304401)
No and Yes,

It originates from DUB, but I have been told that it will Op DUB-LCY-PUF from time to time.

As far as I understand it is 2 separate routes (in fact 3 as WX will start a route from Amsterdam to Pau as well)

Amsterdam - Pau
AF5246 AMS-PUF Sat 0730 - 0950
AF5247 PUF-AMS Sat 1540 - 1800

AF5248 AMS-PUF Sun 1455 - 1715
AF5249 PUF-AMS Sun 1755 - 2015

Dublin - Pau
AF5178 DUB-PUF Sat 1315 - 1640
AF5179 PUF-DUB Sat 1725 - 1850

London City - Pau
AF5283 LCY-PUF Mon, Thu 0910 - 1215
AF5282 PUF-LCY Mon, Thu 1250 - 1345

AF5285 LCY-PUF Sat 1200 - 1505
AF5284 PUF-LCY Sat 1025 - 1130

DM

Jamie2k9 17th Mar 2011 14:42

A team from Air India are due back in Dublin in the next 6 - 8 weeks.

Air India considering operational base at Dublin - Economy and Politics - livemint.com

akerosid 17th Mar 2011 18:19

Good to see that Leo Varadkar - who is of Indian descent - going to India to meet his Indian opposite number. Can't hurt!

It is also interesting to see that the negotiations seem to be talking place at government level, rather than at AI/DAA level; that, I think, is also a positive, because the Indian-Irish relationship can be pushed by other departments as well; perhaps a visit to Ireland by PM Manmohan Singh could be arranged; India is a massively important market, as a trading partner and as a possible tourism source, and we need to be aggressively proactive in getting into that market; getting AI to develop a hub at DUB would be a huge boost to that.

One possible obstacle is runway length, but extending this over a period of time (say 12-18 mos.) could be part of the deal. However, AI is one of the four or five carriers who will receive 787s this year (yes, at last!) and they would have no problem with DUB operations.

wanna_be_there 17th Mar 2011 19:32

Im sorry and this is nothing against DUB/SNN in particular, but, I just dont see what the fuss is with this pre border clearance?!?
You still have to go through the same passport check procedures, you still have to queue but instead, they take your duty free allowance!

Yes, at the moment the queues are slightly smaller (at the USA I have personally never waited longer then 10-15 mins, and Ive arrived with a few international flights at once too), and the more and more flights that use DUB for the pre-clearance then negates the time saved as more people are queuing.

Then to DUB itself RE AI, I still think AI should go for BHX as a hub. The runway isnt that difference from DUB, but at least there is a huge population to support it (more than DUB could ever offer). Even MAN would be a better option, as it has the larger populations to support, and at least cargo could go out completly full.
Then again, has any decision by AI ever made sense?

Copenhagen 17th Mar 2011 22:26

They don't take your duty free allowance. Its the exact same!

Noxegon 18th Mar 2011 07:27

The advantage is the ability to land in domestic terminals which are on the whole more efficient and less congested than the international ones.

At MCO you used to have to disembark, reclaim your bag, recheck your bag, clear security, take a train across the airport, then wait for your bag again. There's no need to do that any more.

Jamie2k9 18th Mar 2011 16:14

Airport alert as rogue passenger strolls past security and onto jet - National News, Frontpage - Herald.ie

How could he pass security and the boarding gate.

Seljuk22 25th Mar 2011 14:08

AA will re-launch daily flights ORD-DUB with B767-300
American Airlines Re-Launches Chicago - Dublin Flight and Moves to Dublin's Terminal 2 - Mar 25, 2011

dublindispatch 26th Mar 2011 11:59

And are AA going to stay of bugger off again in October!

Re T2 and all this chat about hubs n preclearance, T2 can hardly cope with the widebody aircraft on it at the moment never mind the second US flight and the return of AA.

It just dont have enough wide body stands unless some cartographer is busy with a pen tring to do a 36L and 36R type job to try and squeeze more parking stands... or are the DAA going to ask EI to go back to the B pier for UK and European flights to free up stands in T2???

Jamie2k9 26th Mar 2011 13:09

T2 8 wide body stands I think.

Aer Lingus A330 - 05:15 - 10:45 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 05:20 - 14:10 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 07:55 - 11:00 (Mon, Fri, Sun)
Aer Lingus A330 - 08:15 - 12:30 (Teu, Thurs, Sat)
Aer Lingus A330 - 09:50 - 17:00 (daily)
Aer Lingus A330 - 08:25 - 12:50 (daily)
Continental B757 - 06:55 - 09:00 (daily)
Continental B757 - 09:25 - 10:55 (daily)
Delta - B757 - 08:45 - 10:30 (daily)
Delta - A330/B767 - 10:30 - 12:30 (daily)
American - B767 - 08:00 - 10:00 (daily)
US Airways - B767 - 08:45 - 11:15 (daily)
US Airways - B757 - 06:50 - 09:15 (daily)
Eithad Airways - A330 - 07:50 - 09:20 (daily except Tues)
Eithad Airways - A330 - 14:55 - 20:55 (Sat, Sun, Tues, Thur)

Even if Some of the Aer Lingus A330 are moved away from stands during the week there will still be problems on Weekends as they operate AGP, FAO in the mornings.

Just imagine if Air Canada (B767) Air Transit (A330/A310) and Sunwing (B767) were operateing out of T2 as well.


And are AA going to stay of bugger off again in October!
They have flights on Sale next winter.

Aer Lingus Regional flights to Aberdeen and Bristol will operate form T2 from tomorrow. Thats according to Dublin Airport website Flights info.

eireoflot82 28th Mar 2011 20:00

Saw this link in another forum
//business-standard.com/india/news/once-bitten-air-india-shies-awayeurope/430127/

“We do not plan to make any hub in Europe, or Dublin for that matter, because it does not make sense for a carrier like us, which has direct flights to the US. All our flights are doing well,” said a top AI official, who did not want to be identified."

“With the amount of fuel you need to have in the aircraft for a Delhi-Dublin flight, a Boeing 777 will not be able to land or take off on this runway. For such operations, one at least needs a 10,500-ft runway,” said Mohan Ranganathan, a Chennai-based aviation analyst, who has worked as a pilot with various airlines.
He adds that the airport is also “notorious” when it comes to landing and takeoff, and pilots need special training, which would be further trouble for the ailing carrier."

Noxegon 28th Mar 2011 21:14

My mother took the afternoon EI flight to JFK today and was surprised to discover that it does not use the much-promoted pre-clearance.

akerosid 28th Mar 2011 22:17

I guess we all kind of knew that the runway length would be an issue, but hopefully this might act as a prompt to do something about it.

As for the rest of the comments ... yes, Dublin was one of those peculiarly difficult straight in approaches with ILS, PAPIs and a lack of mountains or particularly bad weather ... very difficult indeed (well, for pilots who haven't forged their flying licences!)

Jamie2k9 28th Mar 2011 22:58


My mother took the afternoon EI flight to JFK today and was surprised to discover that it does not use the much-promoted pre-clearance.
EI109 - DUB - JFK
EI139 - DUB - BOS

Both don't use pre clearance in Dublin. No idea why.

All other Aer Lingus US flights us it here in Dublin.

Aer Lingus: Travel Information - US immigration

There is still officials from Air India due in Dublin in the next 3 - 4 weeks.


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