Won't last long. Fine Gael are going to break up DAA, scrap the travel tax and reduce landing charges. There is even talk of selling off one of the terminals.

selling off a terminal??surely not!!if they did,im sure mol would spend a few quid on it as long as it included a certain hanger too!!too little too late by the time that comes round.EI will be happy this morning,but then they have there own mess to sort out too!!

Iberia - DUB - MAD
 

Iberia operated by Air Nostrum will start double daily flights to Madrid from 24 June until early September. Iberia will resume services with a A320 from November.

everyday except Saturday
DUB - MAD - 14:35 - 18:00
DUB - MAD - 20:30 - 23:55

MAD - DUB - 12:25 - 13:50
MAD - DUB - 18:30 - 19:55

Saturdays
DUB - MAD - 14:35 - 18:00
MAD - DUB - 12:25 - 13:50

2010 passengers at Dublin were over 18.4 million. DAA claims that over 730,000 were lost due to ash and weather.

1.2 million used the airport in Jan. 1% increase over Jan 2010.

Latest News > 1.2 Million Passengers in January

I cant seem a 2355 arrival into MAD being a hit!

@ 95euro rtn pp with Iberia i think it will be :)

28 being withdrawn from use for overlay
 

Being reported by news services here.

Will only be closed between 21:00 - approx 05:30 Monday - Saturdays.

I think the M50 upgrades was quicker than this overlay job!!

It rumbles on from last week. Ryanair now want to expand at SNN and they want to be payed for doing so as well as having everything free. Ryanair's proposals to the DAA just keep getting better and better. What next will they want the DAA to pay the crew to fly the aircraft.:ugh:

Latest News > DAA Seeks Clarification From Ryanair

No no, the crew will pay Ryanair to allow them to fly the aircraft. Clearly.

Well said Jamie, i for one hope the DAA (SAA) reject this latest offer from Ryanair - for years the DAA (SAA) staff at Shannon boasted to us staff at Cork (CAA) about the signifcant presence FR had their at one point i think 6 A/C where based and the airport was handling just over 3.5M pax in 2007, 2008 the decline began to 3.1M - while Cork rose to 3.2M in the same year, but it was only in 2009 after significant reductions @ SNN with the loss of LHR (EI - JAN), ATL (DL)*, JFK (DL - OCT), ORD (EI - APR), PHL (US)* - and FR reducing its based fleet from 6 to 4. Then it was October when they annuonced that from April 2010 only 1 FR A/C would be based after already reducing the SNN base to 3 A/C for that winter. But it then came out since 2003 FR had'ent been paying a red cent to the SAA while at Cork although growth was slow & steady from 2003-2008 EI where developing - new LOCO's arriving FR with 1 A/C (to this day**) but all where paying full charges and Cork was making its money unlike SAA this was shown when FR pulled PIK & EMA (2008) after 1yr because charges where on the way after the free first yr - but FR where not hanging round they couldnt believe the CAA's attiude (Comparing SAA). The SAA needs to hold tight they will see expansion not from FR (unless they buck the trend and acctually pay airports money!) but stable carriers such as EI, RE & SAA's transatlantic airlines which all pay top dollar for facilitys there. By the way just to show how horride FR are to their own staff they make them feel its a priveliage to work for them - you pay for your uniform, your meals etc.. and Holidays are at o'd times & you could get banashed like one FR pilot (only to leave later) from STN to Kaunas which is in the back of Siberia, for speaking the thruth after MOL said only one pilot was needed - another one of his schemes. I hope the DAA (SAA) reconginse what FR have done to Shannon Airport, and the local tourism sector and ignore this latest offer.

*Never recommenced as planned for Summer 2009.
**2nd A/C for JUN - AUG since 2010.

Part of this second letter from Ryanair in weeks could relate to the DAA saying that if Ryanair want to grow at Dublin they must restore SNN traffic. Although Cork was also part of the deal I would think that SNN would be more impotent and if this was done then they could add passengers at Dublin. In a way I would like to see Ryanair back at SNN but on a reasonable deal and not the one they propose.

Yes Jamie i understand where your coming from but look at the recent developments at SNN - first EI service to/from Continental Europe, services to the UK restored and preforming really well. Do the SAA want to throw all that away only for the same thing to happen down the road again? To be honest i hope FR dont grow as much out of Cork anymore i work there and i would be glad to see Baby back (other Loco's too) and EI developing more routes and increasing their base at Cork over FR any day!! - Ryanair are reminding me of a childhood friend i had years back who everyone wanted but left you when they felt like it , if you get me haha :O

There is an opportunity for Aer Lingus to base further aircraft at SNN and grow more. I would like to see them take it but I don't think they will.

Is there really? Where to. Problem is that there isn't a a large enough population to sustain any significant basing of aircraft.Also the punters will happily hop into their cars and head up to Dublin or across to Cork in search of a cheaper fare. By offering services from SNN to destinations served from ORK and DUB you run the risk of reducing your loads out of these ports. Its the same reason why you don't see a BFS-USA direct route.

Er... BFS has a summer route to Orlando and a direct flight to New York

Long term car park buses can drop off at T2 but are not allowed to pick up at T2. What's the logic?

There's a €3.5m Long Term bus (Bus Park) facility which is accessible by a Sky-Walk bridge from T2.

What idiot is using the trem LOGIC whan it comes to Dublin and the DAA.

What idiot is using the trem LOGIC whan it comes to Dublin and the DAA.

I asked a rhetorical question so I'll ask another. Have you exceeded the max number of recommended units this evening dispatch?

The whole terminal access system at Dub is a disaster, not just T2
 

The entire access system at Dublin is a disaster, not just T2. The T1 departure set down road is a shambles, anyone dropping off children takes their life in their hands every time they go in there, it would make a lot more sense to make the centre road of the 3 the through route with no stopping on it, and have the no 1 and No 3 lanes as the set down lanes, as they would then both have paved walkways adjacent to the vehicle, and no vehicles would have to cross other traffic lanes to park or leave the area. The other thing that would make a huge difference would be to get rid of the pedestrian crossing in the middle of the departure road, and segregate vehicles and pedestrians so that they are not mixed as at present. If necessary, put the pedestrians on a bridge over the departure roadway, the traffic flow for both vehicles and pedestrians will be MUCH safer.


The concept of having nowhere to collect passengers from without paying to park is offensive and inappropriate. Passengers have paid to use the airport. I for one am not prepared to pay an exorbitent charge to collect an inbound passenger who is waiting to be collected. There are signs all over the T1 departure road saying that collecting passengers is not allowed. At one time, it was not a problem to collect passengers on some of the roadways behind the multi storey car park, but DAA have now put railings all over the place to make that impossible.

T2 is even worse. There is a set down road, a bus lane, and nowhere to collect people. and the road that is supposedly for arrivals leads to the T2 multi storey car park that has no avoidance, so if you end up on that road, you have to go through the car park to get out, and the signposting of the exits is about as clear as the rest of the DAA signposting, in other words, a shambles.

The majority of passengers these days have mobile phones. It is thus very simple to communicate with them and confirm that they are in a location to be picked up. Loading passengers takes about as long as unloading them. That needs to be facilitated, and the requirement to use and pay for a car park to collect someone that's waiting to be collected is unacceptable, both in terms of time, and cost. The most recent "improvements" at Dublin make it even harder than it used to for people to be picked up.

Ok, there have been problems in the past with pre booked taxis and the like blocking the set down road when waiting for passengers, but that's easy enough to deal with, move them on if the passenger is not there, or make them use the car park, they at least are being paid for the service they are providing, so they can charge for the service.

Maybe things will be easier and better once the Metro is built, but somehow I doubt it, given the inability of DAA to listen to the users and act accordingly. For the forseeable future, road transport is the only way to get all of the passengers to and from their flights, so making that process as simple, easy and fast as possible should be their first objective, but they seem determined to ignore the passengers that are arriving, probably because they are earning next to nothing from them on the way in, so they don't care about making their experience a pleasant one.

The airport used to be a pleasant and enjoyable experience. Now, with the problems of getting in and out, the hassles of security that can't make their mind up what the rules are, or which ones they are going to enforce today, the huge distance out to the D pier, and the very limited number of seats compared to passenger numbers when you do get there, the experience is far from pleasant, especially with small children, or for the old or infirm, or even those that have any form of mobility problems. Then of course there's the Ryanair scrums at the gate, which are a disaster in the making for families trying to stay together.

Trying to get to the aircraft early enough in boarding to get a row of 3 seats together as a family are all pressures that are unhelpful, and even paying for "priority boarding" is no guarantee of getting a row, and why should if be necessary to pay extra to facilitate family safety with small children? with small children, it's often a good plan to take them to the toilets as boarding starts, to try and make the flight as easy and comfortable as possible, but with "free boarding", this doesn't work, with pre allocated seats it does.

Ok, this last point is not altogether DAA's problem, but for sure the rest of it is. It's the final straw in what has become a much less than enjoyable process that should be as stress free as possible. Most of this is under DAA's direct control, and if they had any real interest in passenger satisfaction, it would have been addressed a long time ago.

Why are point-to-point passengers not allowed to use flight connections at Dublin anymore? I connected from Aer Lingus to BMI last month, but this month it was strictly forbidden.

T2
 

This may not be a popular thing to say given the general statements on T2 but I like the place! Recent flights with Etihad & Aer Lingus have been through T2 and I have had no problems. Being dropped off & collected at the terminal & the overall experience through the terminal have all been good.
For the last number of years there were so many complaints about overcrowding in what is T1, so I welcome the fewer numbers in T2. I know it's not ideal for the retailers, but it does make for an easier experience.
While I'm at it, I wonder sometimes about those who complain about the distances to walk - even between the two terminals - have ever been through other international airports such as KUL, AMS, LHR, BKK to name but a few...now those are airports which would test your shoe leather!
For the record, I don't work for any airline, I am one of those SLF that seem to get in everyone's way:)

The opening of DUB-VNO on RYR has caused Air Baltic to Pull DUB flights.

They state they would rather walk away from the crowd than compete.

CLT-DUB has been postponed from 6th May to 14th May.

KUL: 30 million passengers in 2009
AMS: 44 million
LHR: 66 million
BKK: 41 million

DUB: 21 million

It might be fairer to compare DUB with other airports of a similar size (in traffic terms). It's not unreasonable to expect that an airport with e.g. twice as many passengers as DUB may have longer distances to walk (note may - clean-sheet design, more integrated travelators and/or a different widebody/narrowbody mix also come into play).

Examples of airports within 10% of DUB's passenger numbers in 2009: ZRH, STN, CPH, LGA.

If you think it's bad now.........
 

Wait till they eventually get the Metro built.

The very original concept was that the station for the rail link would be in the basement of T1. At some stage that idea went out of the window, and then they built T2. Now, the plan is that the Metro station will be "close" to the Great Southern Hotel, which is about as far away from the terminals as they could put it without going outside of the major roads that circle the airport. From Pier D to T1 is bad enough, the extra distance to the Metro will at least double the distance. That is not an issue for a resonable number of people, but consider the significant number of disabled, very young and elderly people that for good reasons are not able to walk long distances that will probably include steep slopes, if the present scenario is anything to go by. In theory, there will probably be travelators, which is fine when they work, and a total pain when they don't. Denver has an underground link from the main check in area to the remote piers that in total covers less distance with 4 stops than the distance people will have to walk at Dublin.

The distance to Pier D is less than from the lounge to Pier 3 ( ex Gatwick Satelite) at Gatters, or from the lounge over the bridge at the North Terminal. It's really not that far unless the Irish have particularly wee legs!

Whether your legs are long or short the distance would be the same:)

Was the airport metro station not moved to beside the new T2 car park so its fairly close to both T1+T2 and not close to the Radisson Hotel.

The metro will be located between the Aer Lingus head office building and the terminal, just east of the church in the airport, and close to the current short term carparks, but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good old bitch about Dublin airport by the usual suspects.

If you constantly benchmark an airport against LHR or LGW then the result is you'll never have an airport with a good passenger experience.

You spend that much on DUB T2 and expect pax to walk to T1 to get a bus. Which airport gave them that idea?

Sunwing airlines to start DUB - Toronto on 17 June. Once Weekly with a B767.

YYZ - DUB - depart 21:30 fri arrive 09:15 sat
DUB - YYZ - depart 11:55 sat arrive 14:30 sat

Not with there own aircraft though.

Terminal 2
 

Flying for the first time from T2 next week - looking forward to seeing it after reading all about it here.

Just wondering if there is a smoking area beyond security like the great one in Terminal 1?

Great being able to go through in good time and have a cigarette while waiting on a flight instead of going outside after checking in

There isn't a smoking area in T2 but you can walk to the T1 smoking area if you want.

I took my first flight from T2 on Feb 17 and returned on Feb 20 and it was a great experience. Was dropped off and there was no problem. It was an early morning flight. Checked in and cleared security in about 20 mins. All in all it was very quick and easy. On my return we were a while waiting for baggage but in future Aer Lingus will be my first choice when flying from DUB.

The other good thing about the T2 experience is that its now possible to fly in and out of DUB without even seeing a Ryanair aircraft

Should have gone to Specsavers.:ok:

just a question guys im going on trip on 19 April from ORK-DUB-STN-DUB-ORK and im wondering when i become airside in T1 are you able to walk into T2 departures? or is completely seperate? because i thought even though T2 was opened T1 Pier B could be used as overflow?