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Jamie2k9 10th Dec 2011 16:08

Summer 2012
 
Delta will have an aircraft swap in Dublin next summer.
Both routes showing as a 767. JFK was 757 with an extra 2 weekly 767 for July-Sep. ALT was 767 with A333 for June-Aug. The extra flights and larger aircraft were not added until lat Feb/early Mar last year so time for changes.

Aircraft 1:
JFK-DUB 20.20-08.15
DUB-ATL 10.15-14.00
Aircraft 2:
ATL-DUB 20.50-09.45
DUB-JFK 12.10-14.40

I'm sure they would of liked to operate both around the same time but USPC wouldn't cope and stands on Pier E would be an issue.

Air Canada daily 767 to YYZ time have changed arrives 09.15 and departs 10.45.

American Airlines also back with daily 767 to ORD.

PPRuNeUser0176 11th Dec 2011 22:01

Next summer the 11.00 DUB-BOS (M,W,F,Su) flight will use USPC. This means that the 17.10 to JFK will be the only flight that does not as USPC only open until 16.00.

EISNN 12th Dec 2011 02:41

USCBP - United States Customs and Border Protection. Sorry I had to say it. USPC (what does that stand for?) has been mentioned just once too many.

delta154 12th Dec 2011 10:00

Emirates increase DUB capacity from 28/10/12.

A330-200 changes to A340-300.

F/J class capacity remains the same, however economy increases from 183 seats to 213 seats (an increase on 30 seats each way).

Change is likely due to A330's being retired, as there seems to be a lot of A330 routes changing over 2012 (MAN/FRA 3rd daily, DUB and likely NCL)

EI-A330-300 12th Dec 2011 10:23

Next a B777...the 8 A340-300 in the EK fleet are due to leave late 2012 early 2013. That was what I last heard.

Will be Great to see an A340 daily instead of all A330/757/767.

delta154 12th Dec 2011 10:40


Next a B777...the 8 A340-300 in the EK fleet are due to leave late 2012 early 2013. That was what I last heard.
Yes, the logical step would have been going straight to 3 class B77W, however a lot of 3 class B77W's have recently been allocated to other routes, so probably no spare frames for DUB.

PPRuNeUser0176 12th Dec 2011 14:12

And the good news keeps coming:

Etihad to be top Dreamliner operator after $2.8bn deal - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com


Etihad said the fuel-efficient Dreamliner will initially be used on routes to Dublin, Frankfurt, Kuala Lumpur, Beijing and Nagoya, Delhi and Istanbul.

delta154 12th Dec 2011 14:29

Etihad have certainly got good future plans.

I wonder if/when DUB will go up to 2 daily? They recently stated they want to take MAN to 4 daily within 5 years and be an A380 route, so, hopefully some plans are being made for DUB increases too.

PPRuNeUser0176 12th Dec 2011 16:21

All above come days after:

UAE Signs Air Services agreement with Ireland - Transport - Zawya

akerosid 12th Dec 2011 16:39

The airline has a significant backlog of 777s on order, even before the order for 50 announced at the DXB air show last month.

The A343 is certainly going to be a welcome sight; with any luck, we might get a 345 the odd time. These are also slated to be disposed of, because they've been replaced on all the routes they were intended for by the 77L and 77W.

JetPhotos.Net Photo » A6-ERS (CN: 139) Emirates Airbus A340-313X by John Fitzpatrick

Good to see the M/E carriers grow at DUB, but it would be nice to see one of them add all-cargo services too.

delta154 12th Dec 2011 16:56


The airline has a significant backlog of 777s on order
DUB will deffinatly see the B77W before time.

I have a feeling the A343 is a stop gap between the A332 retirement a 3 class B77W being available, and also due the fact an increase of 60 daily seats is a minimal increase by EK standards.

As a rough guess Id expect daily B77W in mid 2013, possibly 2nd daily by the close of 2013.

brian_dromey 12th Dec 2011 17:17

Good to see added capacity from EK, before the first flight has even taken off. Just as an FYI, the seating capacity of the 3 class EK fleet is :

A332 F12 J42 Y183
A343 F12 J42 Y213
A345 F12 J42 Y204

772 F12 J42 Y236
773 F18 J42 Y320
77W F12 J42 Y304

So the 343 is a nice upgrade, the 777-200ER is likely to be the next step up. I presume the 777 fleet is fairly well spoken for at the minute, but as more 380s and 77Ws come on-line DUB will see larger aircraft.

Jamie2k9 12th Dec 2011 21:32

Great news from EY and EK, all there A340's due to leave there fleet by March 2013 according to another site.

When EK announced the route they expected it to be 2 or 3 years before a B777 would be seen on the route and summer 2013 is looking most lightly at this stage.

SU next summer is suposed to be a done deal, just waiting for it to be announced any time now.

j636 12th Dec 2011 22:09

EY seem to be very comitted to there DUB route EK don't seem to be having any affect on them. Only last week they reported there strongest ever bookings.

Also how much more space will the A340 take up on Pier E? 2 if not 3 stands?

DannyKelly22 13th Dec 2011 13:50

if its parked at the top gate, which EI normally use for the EI105 to JFK then it shouldn't take up more than 2 gates. which is the norm of the A333

INLAK 14th Dec 2011 03:14


Originally Posted by brian_dromey (Post 6896675)
Just as an FYI, the seating capacity of the 3 class EK fleet is :

A332 F12 J42 Y183
A343 F12 J42 Y213
A345 F12 J42 Y204

772 F12 J42 Y236
773 F18 J42 Y320
77W F12 J42 Y304

Those figures aren't quite right. The seating capacity varies a lot depending on the aircraft. No 773's have 18F. Old style F has 12, the ones with suites 8. Same for 77W.

Sober Lark 14th Dec 2011 14:53

Emirates haven't even got a lounge yet in DUB for their business and first class customers. Now they talking about using an A340 or 777. Its really short lived hype and I'm sorry I booked with them but in April I'll be on a 332.

On 22/11/2011 DAA said:

"Other international passenger traffic, which includes flights to the Middle East, decreased by 18%; almost 22,000 passengers travelling this route sector in October"

Anyone explain how one carrier achieved the above and how we read here a second carrier who hasn't even started yet is already talking about moving up from an A332 to an A340 and up again to a 777? Come on lads!

PPRuNeUser0176 14th Dec 2011 16:11

Stockholm and Verona added by Aer Lingus as well as increased flights which were posted a on here a while back.


On 22/11/2011 DAA said:

"Other international passenger traffic, which includes flights to the Middle East, decreased by 18%; almost 22,000 passengers travelling this route sector in October"

Anyone explain how one carrier achieved the above and how we read here a second carrier who hasn't even started yet is already talking about moving up from an A332 to an A340 and up again to a 777? Come on lads!
No SSH flights, No AGA charted flights and No NBE chartered flights, reduced EI flights to AGA and not as many charters to TLV.

EK are getting rid of most of there A330 this year and the A340 by March 2013, so they don't have much choise other than a B777 on the route, there not going to use there A380 that for sure.

delta154 14th Dec 2011 16:16


No AGA charted flights and No NBE chartered flights, reduced EI flights to AGA
Given NBE is nearly as far west as CDG, and AGA even further west, can these technically be counted as 'middle east?'

PPRuNeUser0176 14th Dec 2011 16:18

Dublin Airport counts it as:
"Other international passenger traffic, which includes flights to the Midde East"


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