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alserire 31st Aug 2017 20:33

As an Aer Club member I'm delighted. Won't have to fly BA to the east anymore to collect Avios :D

Noxegon 31st Aug 2017 21:36

Assuming of course that Avios are awarded properly. In my experience that's far from certain.

seanwd94 1st Sep 2017 02:01

Any news of Japan Airlines doing the same?

OneBellEnd 1st Sep 2017 11:22

Musings from today's Irish Times.


Irish tourismindustry only a Trump tantrum away from disaster

canberra97 1st Sep 2017 22:27


Originally Posted by seanwd94 (Post 9879051)
Any news of Japan Airlines doing the same?

You have posed the question twice now.

What's the obsession with Japan Airlines and Tokyo?

I think there are bigger candidates in Europe that would see such a service before Dublin.

seanwd94 2nd Sep 2017 03:31


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 9879796)
You have posed the question twice now.

What's the obsession with Japan Airlines and Tokyo?

I think there are bigger candidates in Europe that would see such a service before Dublin.

Well, given that they chartered a flight to Dublin last month, I was beginning to think that JAL was looking at starting regular direct flights.

Skipness One Echo 2nd Sep 2017 04:14

@canberra97 who put you in charge of what people are allowed to ask? You're also having a go at a poor chap on the Gatwick thread who asked another question you disapproved of. Now leave off mate, you're embarrasing yourself. Again. I learn by asking, now pipe down and let people be.

JAL is an outside chance as DUB is of course a large Oneworld hub as Aer Lingus rejoin, stranger things have happened, but don't be afraid to ask. There's lots of knowledgable peeps who might help with some info on here. Use the block button if you have to :)

NorthernCounties 2nd Sep 2017 21:32

Great news on the HKG route. Is there anywhere I can find a list of most popular destination for passengers ex. Dublin that have to connect at another airport? Surely, the likes of São Paulo would be up there no?

AerRyan 2nd Sep 2017 21:37

JAL - Years off if ever, only the major hubs have flights to Japan. Market filled for now with new HKG. BEJ is possible but my money is on it not happening.

Not much traffic between Ireland and Sao Paulo, even during the Olympics there wasnt much of a demand for a direct charter!

seanwd94 3rd Sep 2017 07:03


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 9880556)
JAL - Years off if ever, only the major hubs have flights to Japan. Market filled for now with new HKG. BEJ is possible but my money is on it not happening.

Not much traffic between Ireland and Sao Paulo, even during the Olympics there wasnt much of a demand for a direct charter!


There must have been a reason why JAL operated a charter to Dublin. I'm sure they were testing the route for future direct flights. It couldn't have been a one off.

AerRyan 3rd Sep 2017 14:52


Originally Posted by seanwd94 (Post 9880815)
There must have been a reason why JAL operated a charter to Dublin. I'm sure they were testing the route for future direct flights. It couldn't have been a one off.

Well you can tell yourself if you wish.

You do realise the point of a charter? They occur all the time? I don't think JAL even sold tickets for the service.

Cian 3rd Sep 2017 21:14


Originally Posted by seanwd94 (Post 9880815)
There must have been a reason why JAL operated a charter to Dublin. I'm sure they were testing the route for future direct flights. It couldn't have been a one off.

Someone paid them to do it. The end.

Its entirely plausible that they'll never operate another charter to DUB ever again.

Dontgothere 3rd Sep 2017 23:31

Normally I would like to be wishful in my thinking - but I'd say that Tokyo is not really the priority in Asia from Dublin. I'd say the next Asian routes in Dublin's range would be Beijing and Bangkok, these are frequently enough mentioned.

After them two - maybe Delhi and Shanghai would be contenders.

seanwd94 4th Sep 2017 00:39


Originally Posted by Dontgothere (Post 9881587)
Normally I would like to be wishful in my thinking - but I'd say that Tokyo is not really the priority in Asia from Dublin. I'd say the next Asian routes in Dublin's range would be Beijing and Bangkok, these are frequently enough mentioned.

After them two - maybe Delhi and Shanghai would be contenders.

Why isn't Tokyo a priority? Largest city in the world and will be hosting the next Olympics.

AerRyan 4th Sep 2017 00:43

Because it's not a realistic hub, it doesn't have a large focus on traffic and the market is very limited.

One or two fairly sketchy reasons don't make a route. We see this all the time with people who think that xxx is a great route because they go there. It's taken an age for DUB to get a Chinese route, this proves the market isn't massive and there won't be a sudden explosion of east asian routes.

seanwd94 4th Sep 2017 00:52


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 9881627)
Because it's not a realistic hub, it doesn't have a large focus on traffic and the market is very limited.

One or two fairly sketchy reasons don't make a route. We see this all the time with people who think that xxx is a great route because they go there. It's taken an age for DUB to get a Chinese route, this proves the market isn't massive and there won't be a sudden explosion of east asian routes.

Do you think theres a chance it might happen in the next few years? After seeing Cathay Pacific launching flights, will they be tempted to do the same?

A320.b744 4th Sep 2017 01:46

Dublin will be Cathay Pacific's 13th European destination, whereas Japan Airlines serve only 5 European cities. Europe isn't really a priority for JAL as their partnership with Finnair gives them access to most major European cities, and Helsinki is well placed for a Europe-Asia hub. Dublin is only suited to be a Europe-North America hub given its location, so I can't see JAL entering the market anytime soon.

seanwd94 4th Sep 2017 03:08


Originally Posted by A320.b744 (Post 9881647)
Dublin will be Cathay Pacific's 13th European destination, whereas Japan Airlines serve only 5 European cities. Europe isn't really a priority for JAL as their partnership with Finnair gives them access to most major European cities, and Helsinki is well placed for a Europe-Asia hub. Dublin is only suited to be a Europe-North America hub given its location, so I can't see JAL entering the market anytime soon.

That's a shame. I was starting to be hopeful for a second. That leaves ANA then. What are the chances of them flying to Dublin?

Heathrow Harry 4th Sep 2017 09:54

same as anyone else in East Asia - not very high

Not much business demand (and that's what pays the bills) and low tourist demand

EI-A330-300 4th Sep 2017 10:39

KLM up AMS from 5 to 6 daily four days a week next summer.


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