I see, thanks

'other international' is North Africa charter (I assume SSH, AGA, NGE) and EY.

In October, EY would have run 90 flights into and out of DUB using a 332. Each flight could have a max of 22 business and 240 economy. If EY had a 100% load factor then they alone would have carried 23,580 pax on their 90 flights.

However, only a total of a little under 22,000 was carried by EY + 'other internationals' in Oct 2011

A decrease of 18% means last year in Oct 2010, 'other international' carried 25,960.

Anyone know what 'other international' flights ran this Oct? Figures seem to suggest EY are carrying less even before route competition with Emirates start? (so an EK A340 or a 777 seems pie in the sky)

Dublin EK & EY flights are not about point to point, they are in the main about feeding their huge hub operation to all points North, East, South and West.

They will entice PAX from the traditional Euro hub airports over to theirs.

So the losers will be LH, KLM, BA and partners.

Dont discount their ability to fill aircraft, they will have done their sums. MAN now supports 7 flights a day to the ME hubs.

Other International Traffic:
October 2011 - 22,000
October 2010 - 27,000

According to DAA. I sure someone in the know could say the exact seat loss on the routes above, until this happons you can't comment on EY frigures but as far as I know EY LF factor in the 80's. Jamie2k9 would be best for exact seat loss.

Would also point out there was NO Aer Lingus flights to Agadir during October, not starting until 24 December and at a reduced level over last winter.

It will also be next summer before flights to Africa recover.

7728 seats were lost for October compared to October 2010. The first full month of recovered traffic to Aftica will be June 2012, a slight recovery before this date though.

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Impressive picture of what they done with the Convention Centre

EI, thanks for the link and reading it I like when they say "We can see unusually high demand for the first two weeks after launch."

No wonder they are already thinking of utilising larger aircraft. (ahem)

The ssh flights start again next thurs. amc egypt with 738 a/c

CO website says that Air Canada will be operating YYZ next winter. CO offering connections to EWR. Nothing on AC webiste. A mistake but I heard that AC planned to operate this winter but in the end they didn't.

They had planned to operate 2 or 3 weekly this winter but didn't in the end. After looking at the CO website its showing the current winter schedule for Nov 2012 which is most lightly why it is listed there.

Bmi LHR morning flight for next summer has being moved to 07.45 ex DUB.

Over 1.2 million passengers in November down 3%. Year to date 17.5 million up 1% but would be 3% not including Domestic traffic.

UK 550,000 down 5%
Europe 580,000 level on Nov 10
Transatlantic 104,000 down 1%
Other international including MIddle East 20,000 up 11%
Domestic 4,000 down 80%

Latest News > 1.2 Million Passengers In November At Dublin Airport

Between 21 December-3 January over 620,000 seats available form Dublin up 10% on last Christmas period. The snow is not a factor as the DAA would of had the passenger data some time before the snow fell.

Latest News > Christmas At Dublin Airport

The domestic numbers are hardly a surprise. Any one any ideas how next summer is shaping up yet excluding fr and ei. Charter traffic this summer was very poor and with no mon next summer myst now be at an all time low. Any reliable stats anywere regarding charter pax figs year on year or by destination. I think that would make a very good guage as to how the economy is doing.

Just to confirm US airways are operating a morning flight from PHL. Will arrive at 20.05 tomorrow and depart on 26 December at 09.30. All other US carriers including EI will operate the normal schedule on 25 December with flights arriving on 26 December.

And the point is?

Not sure what the point may be, but I for one would be a regular user of a morning transatlantic departure from the USA...

I see on Dublin Airport website 2 entries of interest;

Arrivals 23December RE567 origin Waterford, this is the Manchester flight number, any idea why this appeared on Dublin airport arrivals?

Departures 24December EI991 destination Ireland West Knock- this is the LGW Knock flight number, any idea why it appeared in Dublin? Did it divert or what was the store with that?

Merry Christmas to one and all on the forum!!

EI-BUD

The point was that you said the US airways stopover was not confirmed and that other US carriers had no decided what they are doing for 25 Dec.

EI-BUD

RE flight diverted and departed a short time lather. Not sure why.

The NOC departure was a replacement aircraft sent to NOC to operate NOC-LGW as the LGW aircraft went tech and positioned to DUB at 20.00 after being repaired.

Oh rite i see. Would a nite stop transatlantic flight in dub be any use or work. I have no idea wot time that wud be leaving the us but may be an idwa worth looking at to boost pax figures.

EK A340-300 will only operate DXB from 29 October 2012 until 31 Jan 2013. EK have indicated a new aircraft on the route from 1 Feb 2013 as the A340 are leaving fleet. Its got to be a B777.

Reported on two other sites.