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Jamie2k9 1st Nov 2011 00:44

Air China may start Dublin-Beijing.

More than 75,000 passengers fly between Ireland and China in 2010 and Air China recently opened a ticket sales office in Dublin. About 1,800 passengers Ireland - China weekly.

Air China Head office refused to officaly confirm if they would open the route.

Would be great if it happons.
Vitis September 2011 - Business & Finance

NorthernCounties 1st Nov 2011 08:38

Would be great if it could happen, Ireland needs direct connections to the east. I always thought that it was an issue of runway length that stopped connections being created.

But, Air China (according to Wikipedia) have a number A330's arriving this year. The distance to Los Angeles from Dublin is 5170miles, whereas Beijing is 5147miles, so an A330 should do the job easily. Fingers crossed!

Skipness One Echo 1st Nov 2011 11:12


More than 75,000 passengers fly between Ireland and China in 2010 and Air China recently opened a ticket sales office in Dublin. About 1,800 passengers Ireland - China weekly.
That's 205 per day on average on the year figure, 257 on the weekly. No breakdown on FJY. Do the maths, to fill an A330-200 on DUB-PEK work you would need ~ 100% of the current market. Also given that a direct flight attracts a premium and that there are many good options on cheaper connecting flights, I don't see a business case given tough times and a price sensitive market.

There is no split between final destinations of PEK or PDG for instance. Lots of people flying to Beijing won't connect in Shanghai and vice versa. They will continue to use AMS, FRA, CDG and LHR on a one stop to final destination. Some of those travellers are very loyal at collecting points and like the familiar product, you won't shift them easily.
Hence you won't get close to 100% of the exisiting Ireland-China market and you can't make money without reaching that figure.

Final point, Air China still only operate the A332 on LHR-PEK, down from the B744 of years gone by, with China Southern just back on PHR-PDG after taking some time off. It's not a goldmine just yet.

DannyKelly22 1st Nov 2011 15:31

cnt see if it's been posted yet but as previously though United have announced their first route into Ireland IAD-DUb beginning 22May 2012 using a B752 daily. wish them all the best with this route which is fares are good i will consider using.

EI-A330-300 1st Nov 2011 20:20


cnt see if it's been posted yet but as previously though United have announced their first route into Ireland IAD-DUb beginning 22May 2012 using a B752 daily. wish them all the best with this route which is fares are good i will consider using.
New flights to run between Dublin and Washington, DC · Business ETC

Wonder what times they will have it arriving in DUB. I think 10.30 will be the earlist.

PPRuNeUser0176 2nd Nov 2011 23:13

Since when have Blue Air moved to Pier B?
Malev aircraft parked at Pier D? They moved to Pier B after T2 opened and Ryanair flights operating from Pier A, since when?

EISNN 3rd Nov 2011 00:31

someone having a strop? what's the problem?

PPRuNeUser0176 4th Nov 2011 15:18

Servisair have won the contract to handle for EK. They doing Ramp and Cargo. Announced Yesterday.

And
Latest News > Dublin Airport Beats Regulator

MidlandDeltic 4th Nov 2011 15:30

Given that since the opening of T2 the airport is running at far below its planned capacity, heads ought to have rolled if these targets hadn't been comprehensively beaten ! Nothing to boast about - just typical spin, I suggest.

MD

PPRuNeUser0176 4th Nov 2011 19:08

Aeroflot Russian Airlines have applied and recived government approval to operate DUB - Moscow. 3 weekly flights - A320.

Airbus321-200 4th Nov 2011 20:23

Do S7 still fly to moscow or is it summer only?

PPRuNeUser0176 4th Nov 2011 20:31

Yes 2 weekly A319 June - September.

stab3.5up 5th Nov 2011 16:33

SU DUB-MOS
 
Any idea or notion when and with what and how often? I think the BT pull out may have been the catalist fo rthis as so many pax when on from RIX to all parts of that end of the world so I would guess that it would probably do very well with connection traffic and no doubt there far east operations from MOS.

Oh and if tru well done Servisair. I hope its the start of a more positve trend for them now in DUB.

jbsharpe 7th Nov 2011 09:06

Ryanair flights to Pisa
 
Hi all,

Would FR's summer schedule from Dublin be finalised at this point? Specifically, I'm wondering about flights to Pisa at the end of August. Is the current schedule likely to change?

Thanks.

JBS

Jamie2k9 7th Nov 2011 22:00

FR summer schedule is far from finalised. Would hold off until next month at least. Pisa should go up to 5 or 6 weekly between May - September. The current days could change but un lightly.

DannyKelly22 8th Nov 2011 14:11

so the DUB-IAD service has officially been announced leavin Dublin at 11.25am daily on the B752. Same flight numbers as the 2nd daily co-ewr service which suggests that the second daily service has been scrapped so in actual fact no capacity increase just a change of destination. Good news for EI and DL although im sure UA/CO will change the aircraft operating into DUB to a B763/4

PPRuNeUser0176 8th Nov 2011 17:14

Scandinavian Airlines announced today that they will increase all there routes from Dublin 2012 saying that 2011 was a very good year for them operating from Dublin. There passengers are up 6% this year. They celebrate 45 years flying from DUB this year.
Dublin airport experience new routes boom » Inside Ireland

And Aer Lingus are to add 2 if not 3 aircraft to there DUB based fleet to increase flights.

Jamie2k9 8th Nov 2011 23:02

Would expect that CO will have a 767 on EWR. As IAD is year round it will be October before wh see UA/CO increase there traffic.

Suprised by the news from SAS to say the least. Will we see the night stop which they have being planned for the last 2 years.

stab3.5up 9th Nov 2011 15:49

Maybe the fact that BT have pulled out is the catalist for the increase in capacity for SAS as the BT website shows DUB-RIX and DUB-VNO as all via CPH with SAS.

I have read elswhere that the CO filght to IAD is to replace the second EWR flight which makes sense as both flights operated so close together. Why did CO never have the second flight leave DUB at say 1700 or 1800??

Any ways may be the DAA subvension subsidies are starting to kick in now

Cyrano 9th Nov 2011 16:09


Originally Posted by stab3.5up (Post 6798588)
Why did CO never have the second flight leave DUB at say 1700 or 1800??

Er... because it would have missed most possible connections at EWR, and because leaving an aircraft on the ground in DUB for maybe 10 hours each day isn't a very good use of it? :rolleyes:


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