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akerosid 28th Dec 2011 02:45

Most likely a 777, but could be an A340-500.

stab3.5up 28th Dec 2011 12:34

Relax guys its only an aiplane!! a340 777 wot does it matter. the fact is that it is supported as a route and lasts. who cares what type operates.
just take a deep breath...hold... Exhale....and relax.

dublinaviator 28th Dec 2011 17:07


Originally Posted by stab3.5up
Relax guys its only an aiplane!! a340 777 wot does it matter. the fact is that it is supported as a route and lasts. who cares what type operates.
just take a deep breath...hold... Exhale....and relax.

It matters because it shows they're expanding capacity on the route before its even started.

If you're not interested in knowing the aircraft type on a particular route, fine, but other people are. This is an aviation forum after all.

Jack1985 28th Dec 2011 19:03


It matters because it shows they're expanding capacity on the route before its even started.
exactly. Seeing larger aircraft at DUB is what most people on this forum would like.

stab3.5up 28th Dec 2011 19:07

Not entirely tru as each airframe can have a different internal config therefore it is not a given that a 777 in all cases has more sests than an a340. indeed some of the fleet the diffrence is less than a dozen seats.

Indeed i would suggest that we are looking on the wrong deck so too speak i think that it is that the 777 offers more pallet space on the lower deck may have more to to with itpn tbe route rather than passenger capacity.

And as i statedt the main thing is that it is supported.

Oh and just to add i have heard that Omanair is talking to the daa also

And any updates on su?

mutt 29th Dec 2011 08:05

Can I ask what gob****e built a multi story airport car park with only 2 elevators and then had the audacity to suggest that people use the stairs :):)

Mutt

dublinaviator 29th Dec 2011 14:00


Originally Posted by stab3.5up
Not entirely tru as each airframe can have a different internal config therefore it is not a given that a 777 in all cases has more sests than an a340. indeed some of the fleet the diffrence is less than a dozen seats.

The route is starting with an A330-200, which has less seats than an A340-300 (which is the aircraft being used from October 2012), hence the capacity increase. The reason the 777 came up was because Emirates are retiring their fleet of A340-300s from 2013, and so will have to use a 777 on the route, if not an A340-500.


Originally Posted by stab3.5up
Indeed i would suggest that we are looking on the wrong deck so too speak i think that it is that the 777 offers more pallet space on the lower deck may have more to to with itpn tbe route rather than passenger capacity.

See above.


Originally Posted by stab3.5up
And as i statedt the main thing is that it is supported.

Look if you want to praise the DAA for supporting the route, send them an e-mail, but this is an aviation forum where people can talk about the specifics of a route such as timings, aircraft, ground handlers etc.

stab3.5up 29th Dec 2011 15:39

When i say supported i mean by the good folks of ireland and not the daa in respect that people support the route rather than going via lhr fra etc.

it dont matter what is planned a/c wise if they dont get bums on seats at the right profit margin.

blaggerman 29th Dec 2011 16:28


Originally Posted by stab3.5up
who cares what type operates.

Passengers care when they get on board, even though they don't know the type of plane. EK A330/A340 seats and IFE are pretty poor in all classes compared with a 777. Even the old pink recliner business seats still on some 777s out of the UK regions are better than the A330 seats. They have to sell the seats lower price, especially in premium classes because the product is just not up to it. Of course, the 10-across economy seating on the 777 is not to everyone's liking either!

stab3.5up 30th Dec 2011 18:12

Any update on aeroflot

Jamie2k9 1st Jan 2012 17:29

Reports TAP will restart LIS on another site. DUB along with another route that they dropped in the past.

The last time TAP were here there flights didn't last to long.

delta154 2nd Jan 2012 13:18


Reports TAP will restart LIS on another site. DUB along with another route that they dropped in the past.

The last time TAP were here there flights didn't last to long.
Wouldn't surprise me if DUB was added. They added quite a few Euro routes last year, and have stated they will add more this year. TRN and BER have already been added for this year, so, Im estimating a 4-5 weekly flight on F100 or A319 equipment.


Any word on aeroflot
S7 have decreased DUB to 1 weekly in the summer, so maybe a sign that something is in the offing?....

stab3.5up 2nd Jan 2012 14:03

They used to operate the a340 from fao to dub but i would guess that the lis flights would be to tap into the south american market as that is where most of the ib traffic via mad are heading.

ei wont like tap moving in on lis route.

Would the route sustain two carriers. The tap mite if it was fao-lis-dub or even lis-opo-dub.

great news if it happens

EI-A330-300 2nd Jan 2012 14:28

It will cerently be intresting if TAP do come back...IB wont be to happy if TAP take some traffic to South America traffic away from MAD.


S7 have decreased DUB to 1 weekly in the summer, so maybe a sign that something is in the offing?....
I think they always release it one weekly and then add the second weekly.

Summer 2011 Load Factors:
June - 72%**
July - 83%
August - 91%
September - 96%

**June a little lower because the flirst flight from DUB would most lighlty be empty. Can't see it being a populor route with Irish people. Taking this into account the LF would be 80%.

Passengers on the route this last summer were up on summer 2010.

delta154 2nd Jan 2012 14:43


It will cerently be intresting if TAP do come back...IB wont be to happy if TAP take some traffic to South America traffic away from MAD.
Im sure they will do fine. They do serve some different points to each other in South America as well as the usual suspects.

PPRuNeUser0176 2nd Jan 2012 19:54

airline routes have tweeted:


Emirates has shelved the plan to operate Airbus A340-300 to Dublin from 28OCT12

But the EK site still showing the A340.

delta154 2nd Jan 2012 20:03


But the EK site still showing the A340.
airlineroute usually hot on the press for some route info, so it could be that the info is only just beginning to be cascaded through the GDS systems.

However, it could be that the route will go straight to a B777-300ER, even if that upgrade happens slightly later than planned, as the increase from A332 to A343 is tiny by Emirates standards.

PPRuNeUser0176 4th Jan 2012 00:14


S7 have decreased DUB to 1 weekly in the summer, so maybe a sign that something is in the offing?....
Don't rule s7 out. Every single year they put 1 weekly on sale and then add the second. Have bieng told that they have recived a third slot to use and with the LF above I wouldn't be suprised if they used it. Just hope the yeild on the route is as good as the LF.

EI-A330-300 5th Jan 2012 12:27

A B787 is expected to visit DUB lather this month for the 14th Annual International Aviation Finance Conference from Jan 24-26.

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