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stab3.5up 14th Feb 2012 10:24

I agree. wat a wastfull award

PPRuNeUser0176 14th Feb 2012 11:44

Lufthansa declares record breaking year for UK & Ireland

LH DUB traffic up 19.49% in 2011 and will increase further in 2012.

Sober Lark 14th Feb 2012 11:48

Noxegon, I agree with you and it is nice that we both appreciate the 'award' winning travel experience that is T2 DUB. Although for me the feeling is somewhat diluted when I realise some of the previous 'award' winners are now on the 'unfinished housing estate lists'.

ayroplain 14th Feb 2012 23:55


The fact that the terminal cost a fortune to build is at this point irrelevant
I'm afraid it is not one bit irrelevant. It is necessary to keep these sad facts constantly in the public eye. It must never be forgotten what a wasteful setup the DAA has been over many years so that they can never again be let run amok building monuments they (and we) cannot afford and not just at Dublin. Luckily, the recession put paid to more of their crazy grandiose plans but even so they leave behind nothing but debt, more debt and huge debt. And now some lunatic quango hands out useless awards to them for the privilege.

I was very hopeful that the new Government would, at long last, do something on the lines of what is happening (and will happen) in the UK. As it turns out, the current Minister responsible appears to be nothing more than a clone of those installed by the previous FF Governments and, in all interviews I have seen and heard, displays a similar arrogance. Same old.

EI-A330-300 15th Feb 2012 00:11

The average tax payer are more annoyed about all the money they had to pay into the banks and not the 650million into T2 at least we get to use what we payed for.

If people are still annoyed about T2 now, they realy need to build a bridge as its there long term and all the bitching will not make T2 go away. Taxpayers money was wasted on much worse things...


It is necessary to keep these sad facts constantly in the public eye.
Its only being kept in the public eye here as the majority of people don't know and don't care about the DAA or T2 once there is an airline to take them to the sun from either T1 or T2. People have little going on in there lives if they are so bothered about T2.

Jack1985 15th Feb 2012 06:17


T2 at least we get to use what we payed for
We didn't pay for anything. The DAA may be a semi-state asset but the cost and all debts associated with the DAA are not public debt nor is the DAA funded by the tax payer. :ugh:

stab3.5up 15th Feb 2012 10:32

At least we have t2!!

Tom the Tenor 15th Feb 2012 12:27

When Dublin's Terminal 2 is being praised to high heaven so much the DAA might as well create a few temporary jobs and finally complete the construction of Cork's new terminal and add in the extra few airbridges that were left outstanding - so many in Dublin it is like snuff at a wake.

And if the argument is put forward that the airlines are not prepared to use them this is what you do - make 'em or tell 'em get lost - after all, Ducksie Air uses loads of 'em around Spain apart from the Alicante whinge.

All this old guff about Dublin, Emirates 777s and fanciful flights about Lagos and South America etc - you would think that Dublin was a first rate, first class capital city.

Tell that to the poor people waiting months and months for their Medical Card applications to the processed.

Dublin and the Dublin Airport Authority, my arse!

stab3.5up 15th Feb 2012 14:28

Wrong side of the bed this morning?

brian_dromey 15th Feb 2012 14:34

I think a lot of posters have missed that the Taxpayer does not, in fact, pay for T2 or any of the capital requirements of the DAA, which is a semi-state body. the losses are underwritten and the DAA would benefit from its debt being underwritten by the Irish government, but does not benefit from direct funding from the taxpayers purse.

Another point missed is that T2 was planned and constructed in a time when Aer Lingus, Ryanair and other airlines were adding aircraft to their fleet and new destinations from DUB on a regular basis. T1 was derided as "third world" and "over crowded". Remember the pre-fab barding areas? T2 was very much needed.

Come on guys, you can't have it both ways?

stab3.5up 17th Feb 2012 21:21

Is it not better to have t2 than not. The operations n costz etc well thats a whole different kettle of fish.

It must be a selling point for new carriers to at least have a look at dub as a potential destination at the very least.

NorthernCounties 17th Feb 2012 21:42

People love to moan... it'll never change. The general population is incapable of thinking for itself, and those in the media feed on this. Throw the public a non-story and they'll lap it up, 2 days later throw a story that completely contradicts the previous story, and surprise, surprise they lap that up too.

T2 was needed, and would we really want a skanky lo-co terminal? No. T2 welcomes those flying in from... *cough* far flung destinations such as the US and Middle East (and further afield). And their first impression of Ireland is a modern, iconic terminal. First impressions count, and I think T2 is a very nice first impression for Ireland. Shame the Government can't/won't get Dublin's transport network which whether we can or can't afford to improve it is absolutely shambolic. (Which I believe subconsciously tells visitors that Irish people can't think straight.)

T2 will always have my support. :ok:

Tom the Tenor 17th Feb 2012 22:36

T2 is fine but let us finish the job properly at the one time jewel in the crown Aer Rianta airport down here in Cork - finish the blinking air bridges as was originally planned.

eastern wiseguy 17th Feb 2012 23:26

I have no experience of Cork. I have to say that T2 at Dublin is an absolute pleasure to use. Worth every penny.:ok:

racedo 17th Feb 2012 23:43


T2 is fine but let us finish the job properly at the one time jewel in the crown Aer Rianta airport down here in Cork - finish the blinking air bridges as was originally planned.
€200 million spent and Cork wants more money !!!!!!

How is it going to pay for itself again ?

Copenhagen 18th Feb 2012 00:38

Cork wants the air bridges, but doesn't want to pay for them...

PPRuNeUser0176 18th Feb 2012 01:07

but do airlines want them?
can't see Wizz or Ryanair using them if they are not free...

Noxegon 18th Feb 2012 02:54

I think Alicante has the right idea on this one.

If you want to use our airport, then you use air bridges. If you don't want to use the air bridges, then you're welcome to go to another airport that meets your needs better.

mart901 18th Feb 2012 07:38

I would agree with you noxegen in principle but I think ALC backed down and have agreed to bus passengers off aircraft. If Cork want to attract something other than LCC then they need airbridges.

840 18th Feb 2012 08:20

Don't want to drag this off onto a Cork discussion, but that demand can hardly be made when Cork has 15 stands and one airbridge. It also can't make decisions on the airport based on the desires of Wizzair and Ryanair when Aer Lingus are by far the bigger operator.


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