I was told it was in a aviation magzine. I think it will be good to see ba cityfyler come. We did have ba before.

strange rumour!!
i would of thought that if anything ba/bacf could look at nqy given recent operations

I don't see how it can slip when it has never been announced.
But we are planning on last week in Sep.

Given the state of the City is a LCY - JFK launch possibly to early in the economic recovery cycle ?

Project Fisher
 

Thanks for the replies. I must have my head in the sand as i've never seen or heard the LCY-JFK route referred to as Fisher. :ok:

Winter New Routes!!!!
 

Could this be two new routes to the USA, one of which is being dropped by another airline and the other route is served from LHR aswell???

Could BA do what SQ have done and launch a couple of flights, maybe twice daily, non-stop from LHR to SYD with the 77L?

They could put a full business and first cabin and the plane would piss it there! Would save a lot of time for transferring biz passengers in HKG, DXB, DOH, SIN, BKK, KUL etc. Time is money!

Before you all shoot me down, would it be feasible? They have 772ERs at the moment so 77L would be a great addition and even if they didn't use them on the long routes everyday they can fit an extra 24,000kg in the cargo hold which would be a massive boost (when the economy recovers) for PVG, PEK, HKG etc.!

I just thought these non-stop routes in conjunction with QF would put them miles ahead of competitors on UK-OZ flights.

I don't think Y passengers would like 20 hours on a plane and it wouldn't help the MTOW limit plus more money for more J and F seats!:ok:

Please comment...

MUFC Fan, it sounds in principle like a good idea but in a recession, there premium cabin volume has fallen off a cliff do you really think airlines are looking to increase their exposure to risk in this area.

Getting LCY-JFK using A318 would be bad enough to get wrong, but a 777ER all the way to Oz, it's enough to take an airline down within 6 weeks. It may be something both BA/QF will look at in the future but at the moment all airlines are looking to reduce exposure to risk in premium.

Well obviously it would be in the prosperous years. It wouldn't be possible now anyway as they would need to order the aircraft etc. but in 3-4+ years it may become a possibility.

I think the LCY flights, personally, are a master stroke. None of us expected it and I guess 50% at least will be taken up by contracts.

Not every company in the city is experiencing losses, take HSBC for example, in fact many banks are starting to see improving profits. I don't doubt it will take some time for there to be prosperity again but there will be demand for these flights I am sure.

A bank doesn't have to make a loss to stop travelling. Every company is being prudent, that's why low cost airlines such as easyjet are seeing volumes increase as companies like banks, downtrade on price.

FYI If you go to CWL, you will see One 747 parked up and 1x 777, both parked up as part of a drive to reduce capacity,

I believe that the B777 is brand spanking new and is having an interior fit before being brought into service. G-MMMS?

Does the B777-200LR ( for that's what he means by 77L ) actually have the useful range to do this with payload. I know QANTAS managed to do LHR-SYD with an empty B744 years ago but that was towed to the runway threshold...

It's worth remembering that the yields on London-Australia are pretty poor, hence the slow withdrawal of BA from the region. London - NYC is a connection of two world banking cities, London-OZ is a Hell of a lot of low yield leisure traffic without the big bucks down the front end.

There are two B747-400s at CWL in storage ( G-BNLB / C ) with a B777 under post delivery checks with another one due imminently. ( G-YMMR / S )

No, the 77L does not have the range for SYD-LHR with economically viable payload. QF spent a long time evaluating it and Boeing tried to tweak it but they couldn't quite get there.

Well, mainly cabin installation. Due into LHR to commence scheduled services early June.

The Independent is reporting today that one new route will be LHR-LAS, wef northern winter (ie 25 October), on sale Monday 18 May.

LCY New York?
 

Does anyone know if and when the LCY to NYC flights are starting?
Has the 318 got full certification?

Looks as though the B777 is gate-crashing yet another B747 route... HKG will go to a 'dual fleet' of B747 and B777 soon.

Does the A318 not already hold certification as one spent a number of weeks there some years ago ?

does anybody know the new routes coming up ex LGW??

From 25 Oct Gatwick to Montego Bay and Punta Cana twice weekly.

Also: St. Lucia up from 3 to 5, Barbados up from 9 to 10, Port of Spain up from 3 to 5

BA New Caribbean Routes
 

BA have announced new services to Montego Bay (re-introduced) and Punta Cana from LGW eff start of winter schedule.
Schedules & fares will be available from ba.com from 22.05 so not sure but imagine that PUJ will be served as an extension of the MBJ flight rather than two seperate services.

Good to see BA extending services out of LGW