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LHR27C 6th Apr 2009 23:53


Just because the HEx takes 2 mintes from starting from its platform at T123 to stopping at its platform at T5, doesn't mean the overall travel time is only up by 2 minutes. Even the Piccadilly Line only has half the number of its trains to T5 compared to the numbers that used to go to T1.
There is no such thing as a train that goes to T1, there is Heathrow Central, and of course the Piccadilly Line has more services there because more passengers use T1,2,3 combined than use T5.

If you get off the train at Heathrow Central, you may have arrived at the relevant station a couple of minutes earlier, but you then have to get over to T1. Alternatively, stay on the train and when you get out at T5, take the lift direct to departures level. Overall there's barely anything in it.

When T5 was designed, there was a choice between the old T1 setup of a separate domestic and international area, or letting domestic pax mix with international to get the full range of airside facilities. BA/BAA went with the latter. Clearly there are going to be pluses and minuses of both - but for an airline like BA with a lot of premium customers even travelling on the domestic routes, having full access to the lounges for all is a major incentive to doing it the T5 way.


T1 has a smaller taxi time to the runways that are the most used, 27L, 27R. So the odd minute gained at T5 can be lost in the 20 minute line of a/c you will be in before take off.
Not really, because BA, especially shorthaul use the intersection departures a lot more than they used to. In addition, on 27s landing aircraft rolling long will have a much shorter taxi to T5 than T1. Even if it were the case that BA aircraft have an average longer taxi time, the fact that their on-time statistics have rocketed since they moved into T5 indicates it hasn't had an adverse effect on overall punctuality.

Peter47 21st Apr 2009 16:33

Is there a BA Timetable out there?
 
I see that BA have ceased publishing a PDF timetable on their website. (Interestingly OneWorld partner CX have restarted publishing - I picked one up at HKG last week.) I could get details from the OAG but does anyone know if there are details anywhere on the web (some enthusiasts site - they have their uses) which I could download?

ETOPS 22nd Apr 2009 01:17

Peter47

Go to oneworld - Home and click on "downloadable timetables"........

computer jockey 22nd Apr 2009 10:01

I used to have the BA Desktop timetable application on my laptop, but I noticed recently that it was no longer updating. A quick visit to ba.com revealed that it was discontinued. However, there was a link to the Oneworld timetables, which lands you here:
oneworld - Downloadable Timetables

You can get a PDF copy of the timetables, but there are also downloadable tools for various types of hardware. I downloaded the desktop version and it is almost exactly like the old BA Desktop Timetable! Especially if you set the filter fo BA flights only...

Peter47 25th Apr 2009 13:31

Thanks guys. I noticed that my BA desktop was not updating but I'll get by with the One World timetable!

busflyer 1st May 2009 08:34

BA new routes to Male and San Juan?
 
Has anyone heard any rumours of BA starting new routes from Gatwick to the Maldives and San Juan?

davidjohnson6 1st May 2009 12:17

Wasn't there a route to San Jose several years ago ? What's changed for it now to be considered potentially profitable, and is this an ideal choice if the merger with Iberia goes ahead ?

intortola 1st May 2009 12:34

I travel through San Juan a lot, and we are hearing rumours here that Virgin will fly LGW-SJU weekly from late 2009, really hoping so, that way can avoid Antigua and LIAT!
BA used to fly LGW-SJU, it was an old Caledonian route but stopped quite a few years ago.

arfortune 1st May 2009 12:47

Virgin have been flying cruise charters to SJU for the past few years so have the experience of operating from there.

In terms of BA - could it also be something to do with AA? They have (or at least had) a fairly substantial operation at SJU serving the caribbean.

malagajohn 1st May 2009 12:57

It was a B-CAL route then closed and then BA started up again to close about two or three years after start up

There is obviously a cruise ship market to look after but yields must be looked at the whole year round

My friends in Iberia Madrid tell me this year has been a very poor year for their SJU route

Nice airport and nice airport shopping , though

intortola 1st May 2009 13:20

Malaga John- would love to find this nice airport shopping, transit SJU at least twice monthly and am yet to find it! Next trip is on Sunday on way to YYZ, will look for it again. The airport hotel has improved recently, missed a connection and used it last week,expensive but much improved. If anyone uses it ask for a room on floors 5 or 6, they are same price and are classed as executive rooms, much nicer than other floors.

malagajohn 1st May 2009 19:55

Dufry of Switzerland bought the airport shops from Bared / Alliance about two years ago

Bared had a good selection but I think Dufry's is quite superior

Dont tell me you havent seen the difference.....:}

intortola 1st May 2009 20:12

The Duty Free shops, ok they do look a lot smarter, do not bother with them as liquor etc is much cheaper here in our supermarkets. The shops are better in the section of the terminal used by Continental, Us Airways etc, 90% of the time i am using American and their section of the terminal could do with a face lift and some better eating establishments. They do seem to have improved the area where Eagle now board now they are not using the gate 1 lounge but it is all fast food, they need a restaurant.

cornishsimon 1st May 2009 22:42

isnt BA getting an extra 777 at LGW for winter schedules ?

flyer55 2nd May 2009 12:45

Yeah lgw getting an extra 777 for this winter for new longhaul routes to be announced soon

Skipness One Echo 2nd May 2009 18:38


isnt BA getting an extra 777 at LGW for winter schedules ?
They're down to six at the minute from the nine flying and one spare of recent years.

TURIN 4th May 2009 00:21

Project Fisher
 
Just heard a very loose reference to this today.

What the hell is it?

Thanks. :ok:

Currock Base 4th May 2009 08:29

Fisher
 
One that is in the public domain - LCY-JFK with A318s

globetrotter79 4th May 2009 15:36

Am I right in being under the impression that the start date for the LCY-JFK has slipped again?

dalej123 4th May 2009 16:29

Coming back to Plymouth
 
I have been told that Ba might be coming back to Plymouth City Airport if their extend the runway to hold the Emb-170. Does anyone know if this is true. I was told it was in a aviaiton magzine.


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