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Channex101 2nd Mar 2009 23:34

TTOB will entre service later in the month im lead to believe.
As for the T3 departures, it will be the same as T1 departures now that are operated by airbus frames. The relevant frame will be based there for the day and swapped around during the night, it could also arrive on T5 remote have pax can bus over from T1 and vice versa.

just FYI T3 flights will be VIE AGP MAD BCN LIS and HEL with the MAD and LIS with a mix of 757 and the odd airbus
VIE will now be a 757 route and NCE moves over to T5 to become a mix of A32X/767

Channex101 2nd Mar 2009 23:38

767s are not going to be phased out, some are just going for cabin refits as they will be with us untill the delivery of the 787 which no doubt will be delayed

flyer55 3rd Mar 2009 19:40

Thessaloniki is daily i think from lgw whilst athens daily from lhr !

BAladdy 6th Mar 2009 03:59

SKG and ATH
 
Flyer 55 -

Thessaloniki :

Operates 5 x weekly until the start of the Summer 09 timetable on Sunday 29th March which is when it will commence daily operations until the end of October. BA will use a 734 Sunday to Thursday and a A319 on Friday and Saturday.

Athens:


This route currently operates 21 flights per week ( 3 x daily) from LHR T5. Using 1 x A320 and 2 x 767.

During the high point of the Summer 09 Timetable (mid May to mid September) BA will operate 29 flights per week ( 4 x daily Sunday to Friday and 5 flights on a Saturday). Using a mixture of 767 and A320 aircraft

parky747 6th Mar 2009 09:07

Gib Flights
 
Can anyone tell me if or when the LGW-GIB flights will change to A319 from current 737 ops pls?

HZ123 6th Mar 2009 12:37

March 29 is the first A319 operation and then onwards. That said the 737 may turn up now and again.

TSR2 6th Mar 2009 18:34

B787 Dreamliner
 
The economy seating configuration is going to be 10 abreast according to the BA article in Airliner World. That's one pleasure I will not be looking forward to.

LHR27C 6th Mar 2009 19:14


The economy seating configuration is going to be 10 abreast according to the BA article in Airliner World. That's one pleasure I will not be looking forward to.
That must be a mistake. The max seating the 787 will take is 9 abreast, Boeing originally proposed it to be 8 abreast.

The 777 is wider than the 787 and BA have 9 abreast on the 777.

Otterman 7th Mar 2009 07:07

Another sign of the times.

Standard & Poor's on Friday cut its rating on British Airways to junk status and said it may cut the rating again, citing a deteriorating outlook for airlines as the global recession drags on.

This crisis feels very different than all the others I have experienced in the last 22 years.

flyrio 7th Mar 2009 09:58

They should get their website booking engine sorted out.

They have recently reduced fares from LCY - when you select an outbound flight from LCY on the website it updates the prices of the inbound flights before you select one (back to LCY) and you should pay approximately the total price of the two flights added together. The website adds on about another £20 to the total sum of outbound and inbound flights. This happens to fares in both economy and business in the summer months.

I called websupport in the week but they still haven't corrected it.

PAXboy 7th Mar 2009 11:18


how on earth has young willy kept his job ?
Wait until the recession/depression is over. Firstly, no one wants a change during crisis unless the person is clearly bad - and the main board have some reasons to be happy with him.

Secondly, few would want to take on a big company in a recession/depression as you have no spare cash or room for manoeuvre. He's safe.

Skipness One Echo 7th Mar 2009 12:58


Another sign of the times.

Standard & Poor's on Friday cut its rating on British Airways to junk status and said it may cut the rating again, citing a deteriorating outlook for airlines as the global recession drags on.

This crisis feels very different than all the others I have experienced in the last 22 years.
First recession of the internet age where bad news travels to a vast audience instantaneously dragging confidence down with it. It *IS* going to be worse because we are
1) Better informed on one level and
2) Collectively ****ting ourselves as a result

I don't recall three million unemployed and the decimation of the manufacturing base being a fun time either but this time round we're all dumber and richer and obsessed with the notional resale value of the roof over our heads.

bjones4 7th Mar 2009 18:07


The economy seating configuration is going to be 10 abreast according to the BA article in Airliner World. That's one pleasure I will not be looking forward to.
For the 787-8, I believe layout are all but confirmed as;

Club World
2-3-2
42 Seats

World Traveller +
2-3-2
51 Seats

World Traveller
2-4-2
90 Seats

A few other titbits,

The 777-300ERs when they come online will maintain 9 abreast as opposed to following the likes of EK and AF and offering high density 10 abreast.

First new 777-200ER for a few years, G-YMMR sitting in Everett.

http://paineairport.com/images/kpae4774.jpg
http://paineairport.com/images/kpae4771.jpg

Due to arrive in Cardiff for fitting out April 9th, and scheduled to be completed and sent to LHR on May 24th.

apaddyinuk 11th Mar 2009 00:54

Heres a sneak preview of what BA are planning for the new WT and WTP seating which was released to shareholders last week!

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/191/picture2rbr.png

BAladdy 16th Mar 2009 20:38

Reduction in HKG Frequency
 
BA have announced they will reduce HKG from 3 to 2 a day for May/September and October.

The following flights are cancelled on the following dates

BA025/026 04MAY09 - 13MAY09
BA027/028 14MAY09 - 19MAY09
BA031/032 20MAY09 - 09JUN09
BA027/028 02SEP09 - 24OCT09

http://airlineroute.*************/se...tish%20Airways

BAladdy 17th Mar 2009 13:31

BA Making changes to Summer 09 Timetable.
 
DEL - From 01 May-05Jun and 13-20JUL. BA256 will go from daily to 6 times per week.

JFK - From 29 Mar will drop from 7 to 6 times daily. BA183/182 will be replacing current schedule which is operating as BA173/172. BA113/116 is cancelled. JFK operated 8 times daily Summer 08.

EWR - BA187/186 (Late ex LHR/Day flight ex EWR). Cancelations throughout the Summer 09 Timetable

29MAR09 - 01MAY09 BA187 Day x3 BA186 Day x4
02MAY09 - 15MAY09 BA187/186 CANCELLED
16MAY09 - 23OCT09 BA187 Day x3 BA186 Day x4

TLV - Extra weekly service added starting 04 June. Aircraft will by the looks of things be on the ground in TLV for just under 16 hours. Flight will be operated using a four class 777.

Flight details below

BA167 LHR1355 - 2055TLV 777 4

BA166 TLV1240 - 1605LHR 777 5

racedo 17th Mar 2009 13:57


First recession of the internet age where bad news travels to a vast audience instantaneously dragging confidence down with it. It *IS* going to be worse because we are
1) Better informed on one level and
2) Collectively ****ting ourselves as a result

I don't recall three million unemployed and the decimation of the manufacturing base being a fun time either but this time round we're all dumber and richer and obsessed with the notional resale value of the roof over our heads.
True my friend but the instant news has its drawbacks as everybody has to be seen to be reacting where often the best thing to do is do nothing.

Doing nothing allows the organisation to react in a planned way rather than the kneejerk required to keep Sky news happy.

All good news on the markets gets ignored and all bad news gets oversold.

stormin norman 24th Mar 2009 09:46

From the Times today

The Government would not stop British Airways becoming a Spanish company as a result of a merger with Iberia, the Transport Secretary said yesterday.

BA and Iberia, the Spanish flag carrier, are believed to be near to agreeing merger terms in talks that have been continuing since July.

It is thought likely that the airlines would continue to operate as separate brands under a new operating company after the merger. However, it is not clear whether this parent company would be based in Spain or in Britain.

Skylion 24th Mar 2009 15:11

It may be that with BA's pensions liability included, BA will be the minority shareholder in the merged controlling company. This despite BA being by far the more significant airline of the 2 thanks to its global, if shrunken , network. Its obsession with a merger - is difficult to understand and has never been explained to shareholders . Iberia with its long standing service quality and industrial relations baggage doesnt appear to bring much to the party. A glance at the map shows that it is in the wrong place for any kind of a hub other than to South America, which is of little real value to the UK market. BAs missed and probably only valuable opportunity (twice ) was KLM and having missed that and seen KLM go off with Air France ,it has been obsessively scrambling for a partner ever since. Lufthansa in contrast has used its strength and gone for purchase of smaller airlines (Austrian) and setting up useful subsidiaries (Lufthansa Italia) to break into other markets. BA for some time does not seem to have understood its potential to go it alone and lacks confidence to do so.

silverstreak 24th Mar 2009 15:38

... what a shame - NOT

BA have been scrambling around from one airline to another to try and secure a 'partnership' of real meaningfulness for a considerable number of years. Its too late locking the door, once the horse has bolted...

Now after other airlines have merged, bought, and aquired others (the ones that have at least some potential), LH, AF/KLM have snapped these up and whats left around Europe hardly jumps out as tempting...

The Star Alliance by far is the best (as well as the biggest), and has been building its momentum for many years, whilst OneWorld has sat back, and watched its rivals. Ok, OneWorld has added members but still not in the same league as STAR.

So, what now for BA? Merge with IB - no offence IB... Clutching at straws Mr Walsh, you have FAILED...

Iam thinking that Waterworld could soon be renamed 'Titanic'. ... It will never sink... But it did!


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