Flybe-V2
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There have been frequent statements that the late delivery of the Q400s meant they couldn't build up fast enough and lacked scale, including in the administrator's report. It's rather hard to see how building up faster would have done anything other than burned even more money more quickly than they did.
Well it was always going to be a struggle but what killed them off quick was the appalling inability to run flights on time - or even at all. There aren't a lot of flyers on soem of those destinations and word gets out very very quickly if there are problems.
And boy - were there problems.
And boy - were there problems.
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There have been frequent statements that the late delivery of the Q400s meant they couldn't build up fast enough and lacked scale, including in the administrator's report. It's rather hard to see how building up faster would have done anything other than burned even more money more quickly than they did.
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Not sure whats left of the regional UK market is big to make enough cash to register a profit and absorb the sort of losses the existing route network was making.
The airline was losing around £48m - £60m a year - Loganair made £5m profit total last year!
The airline was losing around £48m - £60m a year - Loganair made £5m profit total last year!
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Presumably, as has already been stated, because there were only 6 aircraft flying of which 5 were tasked with the preservation of the LHR/AMS slots and burning through the cash quickly as these routes could never be profitable on that size of aircraft. They needed the extra aircraft to come quickly in order to fly regional flying that actually could make money to absorb the losses incurred on the LHR slot play. All of which proved to be a fools errand in the end!
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I get the point, but that is predicated on the assumption that any of the regional flying would work. Up against Emerald, BA and Aer Lingus (at the time) in BHD, KLM in Amsterdam, easyJet now running amok in BHD also, Loganair, Eastern and others - wasn't it simply a case that no matter what they did, anything worth doing was already being done by someone else and with very few exceptions, the only things left from Flybe 1.0 weren't worth doing?
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Wasn't this basically BE 1.0's big problem? If they happened to stumble across a route that was a goldmine, Ryanair or easyJet would move in and clean up?
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Flybe 1 and to a lessor extent 2.0 where trying to be everything to all types of passengers. The cabin baggage charges at the end of flybe 1 really pushed the customers to the limit and now Emerald trying the same game. It won't end well.
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What was Flybe 2's turnover? edit-- for calendar 22, it is 350,000 times sector revenue per pax.
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Yes. Interesting but probably will not find out what it goes for at auction. The brand is only good for ash trays and legally changing it to flymaybe. Not even sure the social media element has value seeing as the airlines trustpilot rating never improved over V.1. 81% one star. Good work.
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